mnkey
Smash Cadet
ok diddys side b has a little invinceabilty in the begging right?
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The Old Diddy Social/General/Q&A Thread
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Le_THieN
Smash Lord
Never. At all.
NinjaLink
Smash Master
The glow u see is yellow not white. YEllow means it grabs during that period. White means Invincibility. This is why bowser glows yellow in his forward b also.
fZk
Smash Lord
What is exactly this "hump grab release < footstool combo" I've been hearing about? Would someone, please, care to elaborate.
Luigi player
Smash Master
Too bad NinjaLinks video in his sig isn't working right now because then you could've seen it ^^
Well anyway you side B into someone to grab them, then wait for them to break out and then footstool them. (I think this only works in the air (on the ground it wouldn't really have any purpose anyway lol))
This works on MK. (I have no idea if it works on others though)
DUB
Smash Lord
Does Diddy have any other grab release tricks on MK. I know about the footstoll but he can he fair them out of grab release?
ADHD
Smash Hero
Okay, I wanted to talk about usmash. It has a really weird property on where the beginning of the last kick cannot be grabbed, or in some cases avoids attacks. It doesn't seem like invinicibility frames, and he doesn't go that far off the ground for him to be too high to get shieldgrabbed. It makes no sense, does anyone know how to explain it?
fZk
Smash Lord
Ok, the famous first stock against M2K, I've seen it. But isn't it better to press jump while humping to jump up and spike them.
ADHD
Smash Hero
I just did a training mode session with Nash, the diddy i'm doin my guide with, some random day he found a "tech" for his second, yoshi, and we realised it's doable with ddk.
His (or another's, we don't care about the credits) tech is to use a move that make his character go to the very edge of the stage (roll, dash attack, crawl and stuff) and then do a Bmove, the character will fall during the move (it doesn't work with all specials, we still dunno why). In the case of DDK, only the banana pull works ; but by searching a little (and doing some random **** with this) we found some good uses ; here are our setups :
-On someone hogging on the ledge, do a dash attack (screws ledehops) then banana pull, if they stayed on the ledge the banana will poke em, and you can DJ-bair to stagespike them or dair to just spike. It doesn't work if the opponent has godlike reflexes or godlike timing, but if they don't know about it it's an easy kill.
-With a banana in hand, crawl backward facing the center of the stage, and pull the banana, then DJ and toss the other one ; then hog. It is yet another form of Special K xD
-You can set this tech up with any kind of glide toss ; and down or up glide tosses on the ledge followed by this tech, hmm this is too good, really. And by facing stage/void, you can have different effects, so uses.
It IS situationnal, but in the 3 or 4 matches we did afterward, we both used it at least 5-6 times, leading into some really epic stuff. I wanted to know what you think of it, and if you think of another way to use this glitch. Also, why does this happen so we could found other moves that have the same effects. One sad thing is that it is useless as hell to do when your 2 bananas are out.
His (or another's, we don't care about the credits) tech is to use a move that make his character go to the very edge of the stage (roll, dash attack, crawl and stuff) and then do a Bmove, the character will fall during the move (it doesn't work with all specials, we still dunno why). In the case of DDK, only the banana pull works ; but by searching a little (and doing some random **** with this) we found some good uses ; here are our setups :
-On someone hogging on the ledge, do a dash attack (screws ledehops) then banana pull, if they stayed on the ledge the banana will poke em, and you can DJ-bair to stagespike them or dair to just spike. It doesn't work if the opponent has godlike reflexes or godlike timing, but if they don't know about it it's an easy kill.
-With a banana in hand, crawl backward facing the center of the stage, and pull the banana, then DJ and toss the other one ; then hog. It is yet another form of Special K xD
-You can set this tech up with any kind of glide toss ; and down or up glide tosses on the ledge followed by this tech, hmm this is too good, really. And by facing stage/void, you can have different effects, so uses.
It IS situationnal, but in the 3 or 4 matches we did afterward, we both used it at least 5-6 times, leading into some really epic stuff. I wanted to know what you think of it, and if you think of another way to use this glitch. Also, why does this happen so we could found other moves that have the same effects. One sad thing is that it is useless as hell to do when your 2 bananas are out.
Le_THieN
Smash Lord
No, you had it right the first time; the last kick of Diddy's U-smash elevates him high enough to a point where grabs and even most low attacks will just whiff underneath him. It's really just surprisingly good programming more than anything else.
ADHD
Smash Hero
Hmm okay, good to know. If i recall I believe I actually dodged a dedede's shieldgrab, lol I guess range doesn't matter.
Came back from a tournament interstate yesterday. Strange as it sounds, it was structured not to have a Singles tournament for Brawl or Melee.
It was designed to have doubles and 4-man crews for both games. I guess most notable was my 4 man crew making 4th place which isn't really that notable considering everything. Other than that there's nothing much to really report.
But now I have like, 4 days of reading to catch up on =_=
It was designed to have doubles and 4-man crews for both games. I guess most notable was my 4 man crew making 4th place which isn't really that notable considering everything. Other than that there's nothing much to really report.
But now I have like, 4 days of reading to catch up on =_=
mnkey
Smash Cadet
lol that sucks vyse... but on the topic about the usmash so you can avoid some grabs? or all? (if done at the right moment)
~^.NoiR.^~
Smash Ace
I do it ALL THE TIME. I SMASH DI the **** out of the stick when he press down and then I air dodge or roll backwards. It's either the DDD(Desu) is messing up or I'm DIing out of his reach ;o
NinjaLink
Smash Master
Sounds.....uh.....idk old to me. Dont hurt me >_<
@Teneban: I've done that on ocassion as well (accidentally mind you), I never thought of finding a practical use for it.
Luigi player
Smash Master
Yeah, you can even avoid Jigglys rollout with an uptilt o.O (easily if you know when it would hit you)
Toesrus
Smash Cadet
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About the instant throw technique.
This seems like it would be really obvious, but I'll share it for people who don't know, if your opponent gets a hold of your banana and throws it at you, you can do an instant and very unpredictable "counter-throw"
Just cancel the airdodge with the throw while catching the banana thrown by your opponent in the air.
This can surprise your opponent and even make him scared to throw your bananas in your direction.
This seems like it would be really obvious, but I'll share it for people who don't know, if your opponent gets a hold of your banana and throws it at you, you can do an instant and very unpredictable "counter-throw"
Just cancel the airdodge with the throw while catching the banana thrown by your opponent in the air.
This can surprise your opponent and even make him scared to throw your bananas in your direction.
NinjaLink
Smash Master
I already done this and u also have the barrel counter anyway
brinboy789
Smash Champion
i know this sounds ridiculous, but does anybody have problems with wario eating your banans? lol -_-. everytime i throw them, wario EATS THEM :\ wtf? lol, how do i get past this? and btw his chomp's priority is ridiculous.
Luigi player
Smash Master
Just feed him with them and punish his lag.
If I play Wario I love to eat the bananas from Diddy Kongs while they're pulling them out, if I'm Diddy I love feeding them to him and punish him for it ^^
brinboy789
Smash Champion
i do...if its kirby or D3. but warios ending lag is barely even there. i tried, it just eats and it returns back to attacking lol
NinjaLink
Smash Master
HE still lags from it. I just grab immediately. The reason the bite has priority is because his head gets bigger but his hurt box stays the same.
Count
Smash Champion
I like to glide toss two straight bananas at him if possible, then if he bites the first one he gets hit by the second and gets punished. If he somehow manages to eat the second I can usually follow up with a grab or dash attack.
DUB
Smash Lord
New something I've been doing lately. Pick up on it or critique I dont really care. You could call it an approach.
Your opponent should be about medium to long distance from you.
Warning: This Technique requires little tech skill, a popgun, and a naner.
Full hop with your back to them and B-Pivot a popgun shot so when you hit the ground you should have no lag and go right into a GT.
Small yeah, but something you could mix in. I promise you if your start B-pivoting popguns people just automatically lose against you.
Your opponent should be about medium to long distance from you.
Warning: This Technique requires little tech skill, a popgun, and a naner.
Full hop with your back to them and B-Pivot a popgun shot so when you hit the ground you should have no lag and go right into a GT.
Small yeah, but something you could mix in. I promise you if your start B-pivoting popguns people just automatically lose against you.
NinjaLink
Smash Master
Sounds like Special K on stage and something i already did ..............>_<
mnkey
Smash Cadet
intresting simple but it works lol
NinjaLink
Smash Master
My sig is back to being sexy again.
PB&J
Smash Hero
ninjalink u going to the weekly today im going hope youll be there to show me some diddy stuff
NinjaLink
Smash Master
I'll most likely be goin to CH 4.5
DUB
Smash Lord
Yeah, except with a momentum boost and this is actually useful.
chimpact
Smash Lord
Ninjalink after every post in this thread
Also I have trouble when im on the edge against mainly Marth and Snake. If I ledgehop Fair they will just shield grab me and throw me off edge again. IF I side b off edge Snake will Nair and marth will Craq Walk or just space himself to Fsmash me. Normal Get up and short hopping and doing nothing get me grabbed as well. I dunno what to do. Ive been doing some up airs, but that just stalls.Ninjalink said:
Luigi player
Smash Master
If you have a banana you could jump back and throw it at them... (then follow with a side B maybe?)
Just roll up, but this is easy to punish. Maybe it works if you let go of the ledge, jump and airdodge at the same time so you can't get hit. And be sure to always try different stuff so your opponent will never know what you'll do.
ADHD
Smash Hero
how do you sweetspot zelda's spike? I tried like 50 times dair'ing a standing character and it wouldn't sweetspot ONCE, there has to be something im missing >_<
DUB
Smash Lord
Chrome I think they have to be in the air for the spike portion of the attack to come into effect.
@Yoshididdy: Occasionally I'll find myself in situations just like that. Just gotta keep mixing it up and showing them options they havent seen yet. Do a couple Up+B stalls and wall-jump naners. Be as unpredictable as you can. Sometimes no matter what you do they'll keep you on that ledge pressure well. If you take a hit DI up as much as you can and try to land somewhere on the stage besides the ledge. Tough situation to be in. Especially against Snakes and Marths.
@Yoshididdy: Occasionally I'll find myself in situations just like that. Just gotta keep mixing it up and showing them options they havent seen yet. Do a couple Up+B stalls and wall-jump naners. Be as unpredictable as you can. Sometimes no matter what you do they'll keep you on that ledge pressure well. If you take a hit DI up as much as you can and try to land somewhere on the stage besides the ledge. Tough situation to be in. Especially against Snakes and Marths.
ignore the fire
Smash Journeyman
This only works if they're in the air.
omg that's weird
when you down toss without GTing a banana, it will slide, you know that ; but we just realised with a friend that if you hold a direction between the beginning and the end of the animation, the banana will slide to the opposite side. I don't understand why at ALL, can someone explain it ? oO
when you down toss without GTing a banana, it will slide, you know that ; but we just realised with a friend that if you hold a direction between the beginning and the end of the animation, the banana will slide to the opposite side. I don't understand why at ALL, can someone explain it ? oO
iRjOn
Smash Lord
Ooo iRjOn reappears on Diddy forums!
But umm guy its cause that spot that the nanner takes up can be in the same spot as your boby so w/e direction u hold it will move the oppisite because diddy moves alittle and they cant overlap each other...
thats quite correct right ppl?
I believe so correct me if I'm wrong tho...
heh Diddy's pimp <3
But umm guy its cause that spot that the nanner takes up can be in the same spot as your boby so w/e direction u hold it will move the oppisite because diddy moves alittle and they cant overlap each other...
thats quite correct right ppl?
I believe so correct me if I'm wrong tho...
heh Diddy's pimp <3
Blad01
Smash Lord
A simple question : What are Diddy's safe moves ? (on block, of course)
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