The Official Yoshi FAQ/Q&A Thread -- [Please look here before posting!]

[Delta-cod]

I hate sv against marth and I haven't a clue why. =/

I still insist on it being a pretty even mu, but I feel it's an impossible mu to explain to people. =/

I like it because it gives us more options when getting off the ledge. At higher percents, Marth is VERY scary to return against. He spaces for tipper Fsmash, and that spacing really does block anything you'd think about doing. @_@

 

[ForwardAirRage!]

but isnt sv one of marths best stages? id take him to FD cause id be more comfortable knowing he has no platforms. and on sv the platform moves back and forth and could lead to a early gimp or kill. marth is scary! O_O

 

[Sharky]

I like lylat vs marth personally. Although the platforms may seem to be pretty good for marth, the spacing underneath them just seems really good for camping him with imo

 

[Sinister Slush]

Whenever I go SV against Nike, it's Platform Cancelling wars. And goes on until one of us messes up to get a good amount of percentage on the other, or even a Stock.
FD is pretty good since you actually have room to run and camp. And I do oh so love Egglay Chains!
Lylat is okay, but I don't like getting Tipper U/FSmashed by Marth cause of the platforms.
YI is a a good stage against marth... until they start reading your slope shenanigans So this stage is 50/50 of me probably CP'ing a Marth main here.

At the most, With the current ruleset and me having port priority i'd probably take off Battlefield Lylat or YI and just wait to see if Marth takes off either One of the three I mentioned or SV/FD.
As for counterpicks, I'd say Delfino is good for Both the slope shenanigans, walkoffs, and cause of the platforms being slanted and a bit too high for a few of marths moves to hit us if we were to DownB from above
(Or course they could just read it, but most of their muscle memories are to rush in and hope a Tipper USmash gets us)

 

[Poltergust]

I like using Halberd against Marth. He can't really take advantage of the low ceiling and there really isn't anything special he can do there. If it's banned (as it almost always is), I just go FD.

 

[Sharky]

halberd's a fave cp of mine against marth, I thought we were just talking neutrals which is why I said lylat

 

[Choice]

what's so great about halberd though?

 

[Poltergust]

I just explained it. :<

It's a great Yoshi stage in general against characters who don't kill upwards early (i.e. DON'T TAKE SNAKE, FOX, OR OLIMAR TO THIS STAGE. BAN IT). It works especially well on Marth, actually.

 

[Choice]

i just read, marth can't really take advantage of the stage, but i didn't see where anyone said yoshi takes advantage of it doing ___. i guess i'll just search further back.

 

[Nordal]

Halberd is good for yoshi for multiple reasons. His primary kill moves (Usmash/air) kill earlier, his ledge game is significantly made better (recover from below the stage), and the solid foundation transformation has long range for chaingrabbing.

 

[Z'zgashi]

You all need to watch vids of my playstyle nowadays.

It is the most dumbed down, boring playstyle in existence.

 

[Sharky]

the main platform is also really good for camping under

You all need to watch vids of my playstyle nowadays.

It is the most dumbed down, boring playstyle in existence.

delta why'd you change your username?

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

So ummmmm Write-ups right. I need help with air game. Anyone wanna get on that?

 

[PZ]

How do you punish ledgehop laser?

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Read it.
/10reads

 

[Airborne]

I need help with air game. Anyone wanna get on that?

You rang? I'll have my secretary add it to my to-do list, as well as making a to-do list.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

you better get on that. It was directed to you actually <3

 

[2fast]

Hey Yoshi's, I've recently picked up Yoshi and I main Mario and my friend plays Yoshi as well. He says that Yoshi's MUs are worst than Mario. I feel that Yoshi has better MUs than Mario. Would the Yoshis feel that Mario has better MUs than Yoshi?

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Yes i do. Who's your friend? lol

 

[2fast]

Yes i do. Who's your friend? lol

mah boi smokey da bear :D He usually knows what he's talking about but it just didn't seem Yoshi had worst MUs than Mario.

 

[Z'zgashi]

As someone who mains Yoshi and seconds Mario, I can tell you this, Yoshi has better MUs for sure.

The only MU Mario does significantly better than Yoshi in is against Lucario, where Mario still has a disadvantage. Mario, however, takes the **** from multiple characters like D3, Marth, MK, and G&W as they can wall him to no end and completely hold him out. Yoshi really doesnt have a problem with this as he has ways around walls with his projectiles and superior mobility, but Mario doesnt have the tools to get past characters with far superior range and speed.

Mario also doesnt have ANY advantages outside of a few low tiers, where Yoshi has random advantageous MUs strewn throughout the entire tier list.

Yoshi > Mario, no doubt.

 

[Poltergust]

Yeah, Yoshi definitely does better overall than Mario.

 

[Killanator90]

Besides halberd what are some good stages and cp for yoshi

 

[Poltergust]

Basically everything except for Brinstar (although it's match-up dependent).

 

[Sharky]

I'd even consider brinstar against certain characters

edit: if they don't have a pocket mk

 

[Killanator90]

Thats one of the reasons i stopped going to brinstar cuz they always switched to MK if i do

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

I'd say take them wherever they suck, but that usually causes them to switch to a pocket something (lol MK). I love RC but if i CP them there its almost always a tap out to MK.

I mean it really is character dependent.

 

[~Firefly~]

That's why you've gotta have a better pocket MK than their pocket MK. =]

 

[Killanator90]

i love rc as well but keep getting the same result as brinstar

 

[Z'zgashi]

Just go wherever you feel best, it doesn't matter, yoshi isnt very stage dependant at all, he can go wherever really.

 

[Killanator90]

How you you deal with the pit matchup. I got outcamped at a tourney this weekend ad i was like what the **** im i suppose to do

 

[Delta-cod]

You need to camp him at midrange. Basically, if you stay at mid range, a certain spacing away from him, he's not safe at all and he can't really camp you. He's not fast enough to get away from that pressure, either. Don't rush in blindly and don't try to camp back unless you're a stock up or if you're at extreme percentages.

 

[smokey da bear]

could anybody please give me some tips on the weegee MU whenever i battle one they always take advantage of my shield and destroy me with up b and his crazy fireball game works better even than marios and shuts down anything i try

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

Camp.

/10Deltacods

 

[smokey da bear]

but doesnt luigi outcamp yoshi

 

[Sinister Slush]

but doesnt luigi outcamp yoshi

No.
He does not outcamp Yoshi in any Way. I see Luigi like Kirby, when he gets in HE STAYS IN.
So just camp him, he cannot outcamp us.

 

[CelestialMarauder~]

but doesnt luigi outcamp yoshi

Never has never will. You must be doing it wrong.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Just walk away... Luigi is balls slow. Walk away and throw stuff.

 

[ngfc_0]

I've done something I couldn't do again, so i'm curious to know how it's done.
while grabbing the ledge i jumped and did an egglay (not DJC). The thing is, yoshi drifted a bit offstage (maybe the distance of half stage builder block) in the air and faced the stage while egglaying. when i tried to reproduce it i always b-reversed egglay but facing offstage.

a little drawing:

----->* <- yoshi's position
___
__/ <- stage

 

[Delta-cod]

You may have wavebounced the egg lay, which would have caused EXACTLY what you just said.