Lolwut? You just disproved your first statement by saying "Oh, he's got this guaranteed KO on MK, but they can get around that, so he's actually not that good". no you ******, I didn't say that at all. I just said that his grab release can be gotten around because he's out spaced. OF COURSE, this is also assuming that you'd have enough common knowledge to assume that the matchup is going to be ever so slightly in MK's favor when both the chars have a good understanding of how to space with their character. I don't claim to know the MK vs. Bowser matchup by heart, but I do recall that it's 60-40 territory (inb4I'mwrongandgetflamedforit). You completely misinterpreted what I was saying.
Look, if Bowser was actually any good, I'd be more inclined to vouch for his position on the tier list, but currently, his position just does not reflect his true worthlessness in the competitive scene. Again, I don't understand why people say this. Explain why. I've named a good number of reasons already, and most people can only say that he's not deserving of his spot because "he's not as good as this character omg!". It's getting stupid at this point, give me some reasons to support your reasoning. I'm not saying your wrong, but you're just throwing a blanket statement at me and then saying "yeah I'm right dawg".
Oh, and don't pretend like you are the only person that feels pain when your main is bad-mouthed. I'm sure alot more of the characters beneath Bowser have felt your pain as well, so stop boo-hoo'ing about it and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.....like the Sonic mains (wow, can't believe I just said that, amirite *high fives every Sonic main*). Go to tournaments, place with Bowser, then I'll be happy to cheer him up the tier list. I don't main Bowser, so this point is lost. I'm just knowledgeable about him and I hate scrubs who complain about him being as good as he is.
I don't beat everyone by mashing the grab with Dedede, I beat Bowser by mashing the grab button. I don't bash the lower characters because they are where they belong for the most part, while Bowser sits in an undeserved position based on assumption and theoretical "possibilities". Possibilities? People have beaten good MKs with Bowser before, it's not such an insane claim to outspace a MK. The Bowser user just has to be better than average , but it's possible. MK can get KO'd early when the Bowser punishes well.
If DDD's grab was so easy to see coming, why does it play a pivotal role in his metagame? Oh yeah, and last time I checked, his grab range is INSANE, only inferior to Tether Grabs and Charizard (Or, is it on par with Charizard?). Because the DDDs often do more than just go "lol dash grab dash grab dash grab dash grab", for the most part. And we're just arguing semantics if we're going to go into DDD's grab. I've not once said it's bad.