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Explain what is up with those three.
Shiek I had a hard time to move at this point. I was thinking of putting her over sonic.
Yea. People do nothing but ***** about it for over a year now. All I hear people crying about.
What ever happened to the funny DMG? =(DMG said:
Not like it matters. You both suk at english.
Lucario's balls have dropped. Pit's hasn't. (Yes, I used the singular.) That's enough of a reason to put him above Pit...And TL, and Peach, and Luigi, and ZSS, and DK, and Kirby, and ROB.
Yea, cause not many people around here do
You actually expect me to take this seriously?
Some people do, yes. Really, it's not that she can't kill; it's the fact that her main kill moves are generally easily telegraphed and/or stale. There are a number of characters who have a harder time killing than Peach does (e.g. Samus and Sonic, off the top of my head).
Thinking about Pit and Lucario more, I think He could be over him. Thing is lucario is not really all that. He has broken range and get stronger as he takes damage. But again, power is not always everything. There is not many ways you can play with Lucario or do much with him. I feel you can do more with Pit than lucario. Thats what lead me to putting pit higher. But I am willing to debate this one and see who is indeed the better character.
FLARBLE GARBLE GARBLE!
And this is why People don't really know much about characters like this at all, and are so underratted. Pefrect example of it.
Which is why Ankoku list sucks once it goes past B tier. C, D, E, and F are very much inaccurate.
I was quoting the OP... I personally don't agree with that being the way it should be, I was just explaining that.
Someone needs to get the turnip out their azz.
I know, but he had the BIGGEST influence on the tier list. Since he made the character ranking list. Why do you think SBR allowed Ankoku to start this new tier list thread.
You know this how?
Marc started the last one, and Ankoku's thread was going strong then.
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Do you know why we let Ankoku start the new tier list thread? He is one of the most unbiased members we have in the SBR. If you look at most of the new tier list thread creators, they are fairly unbiased/neutral people. We didn't pick him just because he ran the character rankings list.
Like I actually care if a radom person like you likes me or not.
And Just because characters have power, does not mean that are amazing. Power is not everything But that is all people tend to think about Like in your posyt when yet another person goes on about Peach's killing problem. And ok, Peach can float alot cause of projetile spamm. This does not mean Peach does now have the other options to deal with it and win the match up. it is not all about floating. This is why people lose with her and then start crying how they can't do anything in the match up at all.
Ike is seriously a mid tier character. So I had to drop him in there. As for Peach I always said that she belonged over DK and Pit and she be fine on the list. Then changed my mind and said she belonged over Pit but under DK. Now thinking about it again going into more detail, it comes down to this. This has nothing to do with me maining Peach. This is me being straight real.
Oh noez, Dark peach think I'm a random person. Boo ****ing hoo.
Is no one good with Dedede? Lol.
There is absolutely no way Zelda is above PT. Zelda is absolutely hopeless against several of the top characters in the game. She has a 75:25 matchup against MK. That alone should keep her below him. And she has several other hopeless matchups as well plus is just generally not a very good character. Trainer should be right around where Fox and Wolf are.
Lol lucario is more than just "powerhouse", in fact I think that's the opposite, he only gets exponentially powerful when the opponent lose the first stock. Lucario has very solid attributes, stupidly good disjoints that are great anti-air (imo why marth vs. Lucario is near even), a projectile that while I think hasn't been fully exploited, has capabilities to both pressure and kill, and a flowing game that's very transitory and complimentary to his whole moveset. He doesn't have any extremes in moveset, but they're solid enough to contend, and the unlike Peach, the "killing problem" associated with lucario only occurs if the lucario is a scrub in the MU. When he applies every tool properly, he can get the kill against nearly every character behind a stock with only getting miffed for 10-20%, nearly like every character. What he trades for startup speed he gains in safety, range, and a quasi-complexion of a moveset that satisfies both killable requisites and damage racking requisites. Offstage isn't a problem either, his attributes (he's 5th floatiest, and has a ridiculous second jump + really good momentum cancel), and tools (dair stall, BAS + lingering, low cooldown aerials) if all are used properly, allow lucario to get back on in most scenarios. Imo most lucarios aren't at the point I'd like them to be, especially offstage, but I'm confident in my findings.
Honestly, I agree. Then again, I also believe tier lists are completely useless.
click on the link in my post...just scroll over the text.
Lain is our Dx3 savior!!!
He didn't go thoughLain is our Dx3 savior!!!
Personally, I tihnk that matchup is a joke >_> I thnik its 35-65 MK, but I didnt argue that with the boards.
I dunno. I just went with what the boards said. I haven't played Zelda since way back when people were still getting hit by Dins. Lol. Regardless of whether MK is 65:35 or 75:25 I still say PT is better than Zelda.
