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The Official Ohio Brawl Power Rankings (11/25/12: NEW RANKINGS UPDATED!)

ZTD | TECHnology

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Well the problem is, the Panelists will not add Argent because of his leaving so you dropping off the PR isn't going to help anything rofl.

You should still get it in this season though. ;)
 
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There also isn't an issue with having multiple HM's, guys. There were in previous lists, and now there's just one?

And yeah M@v, Y.b.M's statement is why I strongly feel we are in dire need of new panelists.
 

Y.b.M.

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Hey M@v you aren't apart of Ohio. Stop butting in. And I'll beg you to watch your tongue towards me because I have not once cursed in my statements toward you. If I see you and I know you're talking reckless then I'll have to settle it my own way, you've been warned... watch ya mouth boy.

Oh and cats know I play ZSS, They just RECENTLY took me off the list. And then put me back on. Check your facts.

As far as sounding like we are better than everyone. That is far from the truth. Regardless of how it may seem. I've gotten ranked in the past and wasn't happy about where I was. I didn't change anything... it just made me try harder. It's sad that Argent is leaving and he's not going to be on the PR, it really is, I know how good he is. And I'm not taking anything away from Agent just because he's moving... that is not right at all. He's played in many tournaments this season, it would be wrong to negate his efforts... That's not how I view it.

But the results are what they are. This is why it's discussed before it's posted. You all beg and plead for a list to be posted because it's over due. Been when its posted you're not satisfied with it... The list is final, end of that discussion.
 

M@v

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It's just that post really, REALLY came off as arrogant to me. Probably should of worded it better. That statement really got under my skin and came off as ridiculously elistist.

I was in the wrong to cuss, but the meaning of my statement still stands.


PS I find it interesting your talking to me like I'm immature or something. "Watch your mouth boy?" Really? Comon now :/

:phone:
 

Y.b.M.

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Currently M@v you are on my ignore list. You're existence in this thread is meaningless. And I'll gladly discuss everything to anyone but you...
 

M@v

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That really just happened didn't it? Call someone out for making a bad post, and his response is to ignore you instead of defending himself. Oh well. Not point in continuing that convo.

:phone:
 

Luminoth64

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Btw Tech, as for your earlier post I'm at least:

2-1 with Mister Eric
1-1 with Tako
1-1 with Argent
I made it out of pools at SiiS4 (I didn't attend SiiS5 for the tourney though)

I've had more wins than that, but I'm at work and I can't think of all the others. XD Something Argent has on me though, is that he's taken a set from people on top of the PR. I've taken most of them to G3, but never won the set.

:phone:
 

clowsui

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m@v leave this thread, you've obviously done zero research about attendance records lmfao

for everyone's information i tallied up results to help king beef out. i threw the list out already and i forgot to scan it, but my comments on some little things if anyone cares:

fizzle and scribble went to 4 tournies this season but size requirements + the fact that all of these were at the beginning probably hurt them a bit. i don't think it'd be unreasonable to put them in the lower half though if we are going to use "PR longevity" as an argument to put players in spots

KB/Argent/Links/Lumi/Sneaky according to my data have roughly the same W-L records. IMO they are pretty much all interchangeable. Argent HAS been doing pretty well tho w/ placements...?

kel beats y.b.m. consistently head-to-head. in fact the only player he consistently loses to is shugo, he goes even w/ BR

BR has some sick wins this season - Domo and Lainx2 - and it doesn't hurt that he's gone even w/ kel and has a slight winning record on y.b.m

y.b.m. has had good performances at almost every single tournament he's been to. in fact if i remember correctly he didn't have more than one or two placements outside the top five
 

clowsui

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hmmm okay, i didn't see that at all! xD my bad. i blame the fact that no one gave me when the period started/ended when i was helping kb :x
 

Infern Angelis

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No offense M@v, but you are wrong by alot of accounts of your opinions of our Power Ranking. Mainly since you are not from Ohio and do not know our scene, God Kais.
 

Eddie G

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Austin, stop trying to stir up a revolt for new panelists. We've had solid lists throughout the course of this group being in charge and after one hiccup...you want us out? That is incredibly stupid, don't bring that up again. I'm not going anywhere and I would refuse to ever be listed myself if there were just a bunch of sentimental panelists in charge, because it would be a joke. As Y.b.M. has stated, this list will remain as is, so let's move on to the next period.

Also...I find it amusing how the only forms of discussion that ever take place here are the demands for a new list and the agreements/disagreements/*****ing after a list is posted. Where is the discussion, speculation, and activity any other time? It sure shows how much interest people have as a season progresses. You'd think at least some degree of accountability would fall on the rest of the scene to at least show that it still ****ing exists...

Pardon my French.

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KB, sorry, but it's well warranted given some of the responses we've been given, and the sheer number of people that all find 1 major thing wrong with the list that you're refusing to change because "that's just the way it is". It's being ignorant and immature to the very community you're ranking.
 

Eddie G

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You're not sorry, so no need to feign it. Just speak your mind.

Please hop off of the sanctimonious high horse for one minute and ask yourself..."what community?". You mean the community that discusses absolutely nothing throughout a whole ranking period (regardless of how long...since nothing was discussed during the shorter periods either), pretty much only *****es for a new list to come out during a certain duration if they feel it is late, and *****es once it is released? That community?

Acting as if we should feel inclined to change the list (without the option to refuse given the general implication) is just as disrespectful to our decision-making as a group, as you feel we have been to you all. You asked for reasoning/justification, we gave you our reasoning, you all may find it inappropriate...but should that really be the cut-and-dry of it? If so, what purpose would we as panelists actually serve?

I'm not saying that we shouldn't take opinions into account, or that we never would (I personally would and often do...just ask the fellas back there with me); but if people aren't going to get some discussion going in here while the rankings aren't out yet (not only to further guide us and perhaps our final decisions as panelists, but to also keep the "buzz" about the scene going around), and only bother to show up to, again, ***** about list releases/list structures...then of course we're going to feel inclined to tell you "it is what it is".

There's my two cents on what is "warranted" around here. Everyone needs to show some effort in one way or another, and discussion should be one of them...starting now.
 

TheKiest

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Yeah all I'm seeing is more "______ should be on the list."

What M@V did was actually a good step in the right direction, just giving his opinions on each of the members.

Personally I think the PR needs a "reboot". This coming season, have the panelists (weather you add them or not) start FROM SCRATCH ignoring any and all results/rank from before and start fresh. The top players will go to the top anyways. The reason for the refresh is that we have things in our minds like "I'm 3-0 with such and such." But that lose might have been 12 months ago, not now. Or something along those lines. This will make much more sense once the "moves" happen later this year.

@M@V: The reason you haven't heard of those two players is because they usually have no reason to go to NEOH (unfortunately). There is usually a IN tourne, Cinic, or KY tourne that same weekend which usually out hypes any NEOH tourne.
 

ArgentStew

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I'm tired of all this arguing. Don't put me on the list. End of story. Of course, I still don't agree with this decision. I feel like I got screwed over...again.

Why isn't there five HMs though? I grow more and more disappointed with the process you all use. It seems like no matter who the panelists are, they just change the decision making process each season without warning. Speaking of which, had I known one of the requirements for getting on the PR was having to be around next season, then I would have been a jerk and said I was moving the day I got into my new apartment.

There is so much more I want to say here, but I don't want to make a wall of text or be any more of a jerk than I probably have been. So have fun with your PR, Ohio.
 

Eddie G

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Needs more panelists now.
5 or 6 is a nice number.
We'll carefully handle that selection process.

The last thing this state needs are panelists that are susceptible to knee-jerk reactions, mediocrity, or bandwagoning.

Some of you will be getting a questionnaire from me within a couple of days.
 
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