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The New Mario Video Thread Achive
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BoTastic!
Smash Master
Vs Ally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdfVJmRJHOg Match 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42WbI...video_response Match 2
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Also YoshQ mains Luigi not Mario. You got him down as Mario. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdfVJmRJHOg Match 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42WbI...video_response Match 2
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Also YoshQ mains Luigi not Mario. You got him down as Mario. lol
Calebyte
Smash Lord
Good stuff Bo! I heard you went mostly ROB these days, but it's good to see you rep Mario!
BoTastic!
Smash Master
I haven't used rob in tourney since june.. lol I stopped using that Mofo a long time ago.
Calebyte
Smash Lord
Sweet! Btw, I get this error on the second link: "This video contains a malformed video ID" Maybe the wrong url, or is just on my end?
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
Yo Caleb, you never posted any of your vids on here.
You should do that!!! Having a giant video thread is awesome.
You should do that!!! Having a giant video thread is awesome.
Diddyknight
Smash Lord
I didn't even notice that Vato put me in here =\
Calebyte
Smash Lord
There's a reason for that. I'm the worst Mario ever! I'm a disgrace to Mario's metagame and get 3-stocked by Xisen's Marth.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Kinda new here, but I've really been thinking about (and now am using) Mario as a main. I liked your fight with Wario, you have some nasty air control. I saw in terms of comments that people talked about working on your ground game, the only thing I would point out in particular was that you used f-air a lot more than I thought you probably should. Uair has an interesting hitbox that I feel like you can use. Even backwards, the tip of the foot does some damage.
BoTastic!
Smash Master
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
Don't make me show you my replays from just days before I played Xisin for the first time, I was -WAY- worse than you. (And yes, I do have replays from last March.
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Calebyte
Smash Lord
Okay guys, here's some more vids. I don't say they're great. Critiques would be welcome.Don't make me show you my replays from just days before I played Xisin for the first time, I was -WAY- worse than you. (And yes, I do have replays from last March.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upbbOcM2gS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADv5kuz3YzM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxKoYsrvoeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLM7DQq_5WM
BoTastic!
Smash Master
You and Xero should come to cof on febuary 20th if you can.
Calebyte
Smash Lord
It's on the 20th? o_O
For some reason I thought it was later. I wanna come though. Man, February is gonna be nuts! Three, maybe four straight tourneys!
EDIT: Probably won't be at CoF on the 20th, but I should be at MSC#5, which is also a CoF I believe.
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
There's another Chicago tourney in March that I'm planning on going to. (Yeah MSC#5, that's it.)
BoTastic!
Smash Master
Someone link me to that.
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=261199
EDIT: Well I guess that's actually Winthrop Harbor, but you should still go!!!
EDIT: Well I guess that's actually Winthrop Harbor, but you should still go!!!
A2ZOMG
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@Calebyte.
I watched the first match. I don't know if I'll comment more in detail later, but I'm going to say...that match was a HUGE improvement over what you were doing before.
You're a little bit weak on properly using Mario's recovery, you need to be more confident with your B-air and U-air zoning, you don't use enough Up-smash (especially for kills), and you should try for some Jab cancels. But overall your performance was actually pretty good. The choices you made in general were quite smart, and to be fair, I think I should probably be critiquing your opponent too.
I watched the first match. I don't know if I'll comment more in detail later, but I'm going to say...that match was a HUGE improvement over what you were doing before.
You're a little bit weak on properly using Mario's recovery, you need to be more confident with your B-air and U-air zoning, you don't use enough Up-smash (especially for kills), and you should try for some Jab cancels. But overall your performance was actually pretty good. The choices you made in general were quite smart, and to be fair, I think I should probably be critiquing your opponent too.
Calebyte
Smash Lord
Thanks A2Z! Thanks to your advice earlier I've been trying to tighten up my playstyle. I still feel sloppy in a lot of ways...not all my matches go that well...but it's good to know that there's some visible improvement!
I'll keep working better application of usmash and aerial zoning, as well as jab cancels and grabs. Thanks again!
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The second match was actually a lot better than the first, and you really really should have won it due to how well you were playing in most of it, but didn't, and this match overall clearly demonstrated some of your bigger problems.
Your offensive strategies actually were pretty solid overall, and once you got started, you did a good job of keeping up the pressure, like seriously, I was legitimately impressed by some of the strategies you used. However when you were on the defensive, you left much to be desired. You are doing a poor job of recovery and escaping stuff like generic juggle traps in general, and you do not punish out of shield very well. You need to learn to better implement Cape Stalling (which can be used to let Mario turn around to do B-airs while recovering for example), Fireballs, Airdodges, and your midair jump to make your recovery hard to punish.
Sonic realistically should not have been landing that many B-airs since you can avoid it on a basis of pure reaction time + observation.
Also quick random thing you should never forget on YI or Frigate...the wall jump. It's amazing for recovery when available.
Your offensive strategies actually were pretty solid overall, and once you got started, you did a good job of keeping up the pressure, like seriously, I was legitimately impressed by some of the strategies you used. However when you were on the defensive, you left much to be desired. You are doing a poor job of recovery and escaping stuff like generic juggle traps in general, and you do not punish out of shield very well. You need to learn to better implement Cape Stalling (which can be used to let Mario turn around to do B-airs while recovering for example), Fireballs, Airdodges, and your midair jump to make your recovery hard to punish.
Sonic realistically should not have been landing that many B-airs since you can avoid it on a basis of pure reaction time + observation.
Also quick random thing you should never forget on YI or Frigate...the wall jump. It's amazing for recovery when available.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
Xisin's Marth is really good.
My Mario usually gets him down to 1-stock, :D.
And I took a game off of him in tourney with MK, the first time I ever used MK as a second.
My Mario usually gets him down to 1-stock, :D.
And I took a game off of him in tourney with MK, the first time I ever used MK as a second.
Calebyte
Smash Lord
vato_break
Smash Master
straked will update this soon!
Famous
Smash Champion
Go Obsidian Mario, GO!!
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A2ZOMG
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I really didn't like the first match Calebyte. Your opponent really just ran into a lot of stuff and like didn't shield at all.
The second match however was pretty cool, but again your defensive game and recovery are on the weak side, although they look slightly improved compared to previous matches.
Also, on the last stock and a bit earlier in the match, you were trying too hard to kill with up-smash, and especially on the last stock, 98% is not really quite enough to kill Kirby reliably with an uncharged Up-smash.
Plus I just felt that you really didn't know what to expect from Kirby's B-air spacing, and that you were too conservative with edgeguards and sometimes juggles.
I might just want to discuss how I approach the Kirby matchup in general personally, because idk, you're getting pretty decent, and had you done a few things differently, you really would have had that match. I think Mario goes even (or who knows, maybe better) with Kirby when the matchup is done correctly.
The second match however was pretty cool, but again your defensive game and recovery are on the weak side, although they look slightly improved compared to previous matches.
Also, on the last stock and a bit earlier in the match, you were trying too hard to kill with up-smash, and especially on the last stock, 98% is not really quite enough to kill Kirby reliably with an uncharged Up-smash.
Plus I just felt that you really didn't know what to expect from Kirby's B-air spacing, and that you were too conservative with edgeguards and sometimes juggles.
I might just want to discuss how I approach the Kirby matchup in general personally, because idk, you're getting pretty decent, and had you done a few things differently, you really would have had that match. I think Mario goes even (or who knows, maybe better) with Kirby when the matchup is done correctly.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
I agree with the MU being even myself. Both characters can screw each other pretty evenly IMO.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Really ugly videos coming up from me. Both have me playing Mario and Pit, though Mario is at the start of both sets so you can ignore the back half of both. I'm still testing out various characters with Mario as a forerunner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtIyVhTQuYc - Me (Mario/Pit) vs Smash 64 (Ness) L
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-mmmSl6ZVw- Me (Mario/Pit) vs PeppyWil (Falco/Diddy) W
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtIyVhTQuYc - Me (Mario/Pit) vs Smash 64 (Ness) L
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-mmmSl6ZVw- Me (Mario/Pit) vs PeppyWil (Falco/Diddy) W
Famous
Smash Champion
As Mario from what I saw...
1. You played too defensively
2. Lack of OoS options...
3. Utilized Camping at bad moments
4. Nervousness? Your reaction time was a bit off in some situations...
You'd be alot better if you worked on your offensive game such as zoning, tech chasing and so forth...Also, instead of rolling, just walk away sometimes...Walking away makes you more aware of your opponents next move...
There is alot more things I want to go over but...I gotta use the bathroom >.<...I'm also not done looking through your vids
[EDIT]
Definately making a tech video soon...Hopefully everyone can learn from it...Expect it early March maybe...
Also, my combo video is scrapped for the time being...
1. You played too defensively
2. Lack of OoS options...
3. Utilized Camping at bad moments
4. Nervousness? Your reaction time was a bit off in some situations...
You'd be alot better if you worked on your offensive game such as zoning, tech chasing and so forth...Also, instead of rolling, just walk away sometimes...Walking away makes you more aware of your opponents next move...
There is alot more things I want to go over but...I gotta use the bathroom >.<...I'm also not done looking through your vids
[EDIT]
Definately making a tech video soon...Hopefully everyone can learn from it...Expect it early March maybe...
Also, my combo video is scrapped for the time being...
Flameleon
Smash Journeyman
-A tech video o.0, i wonder what are u gonna do in it... x9
...yay, 100 posts : )-
...yay, 100 posts : )-
A2ZOMG
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Juushichi, you made a lot of technical errors, relied too much on F-smash when other moves would have been much safer for punishing dodges, like famous said you camp at bad moments (and get grabbed a lot), not enough Cape Stalling, poor attempts to juggle, too conservative with edgeguards, bad DI, and you rely too much on rolls to move around.
I don't know how many Mario mains I tell this to, but it is really important to have technical mastery over this character to be competent with him.
I don't know how many Mario mains I tell this to, but it is really important to have technical mastery over this character to be competent with him.
BoTastic!
Smash Master
Vato will you please update this thread. xD
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
Tech video as in Lovage's Berserker like melee freestyling ? 0.0 or just combo video? lol
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
Vs. Tactical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ6Um5ixEGo - Game 3 (Others weren't recorded)
Vs. Joey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSWG1-XUWa0&feature=channel - Game 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHq2cgx0VHQ&feature=channel - Game 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmVTjsDyWQ8&feature=channel - Game 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lObRdFeCxDQ&feature=channel - Game 4
I was really nervous so I wasn't using many of my defensive options correctly, and was really really really bad about my spotdodge habit that day. I didn't feel I was playing to the best of my ability but I wasn't doing too terribly.
Comment/Give advice if you feel like it, I'll try not to be like "Lolwut" and just ignore it like I usually do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ6Um5ixEGo - Game 3 (Others weren't recorded)
Vs. Joey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSWG1-XUWa0&feature=channel - Game 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHq2cgx0VHQ&feature=channel - Game 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmVTjsDyWQ8&feature=channel - Game 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lObRdFeCxDQ&feature=channel - Game 4
I was really nervous so I wasn't using many of my defensive options correctly, and was really really really bad about my spotdodge habit that day. I didn't feel I was playing to the best of my ability but I wasn't doing too terribly.
Comment/Give advice if you feel like it, I'll try not to be like "Lolwut" and just ignore it like I usually do.
Matt07
Smash Master
Aw, you add them now, when I have to head to class .
And go back home to a crap internet, that will take over 30 minutes+ to load them.
.And go back home to a crap internet, that will take over 30 minutes+ to load them
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A2ZOMG
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Honestly it's a relief to see your Mario Xero. For the most part, you played pretty competently, and I expect in the future for every Mario main on this board to play as least as well as you were playing right now.
Personally me I thought you could have mixed up your ground game a bit more, especially against floaties like Lucario and Kirby and Olimar you can legitimately Jab cancel to D-smash.
You don't use the Sliding Up-smash enough either lol, and you got like no grabs. Otherwise you look overall decent, despite being nervous.
I was thinking for a moment your playstyle reminded me of my own, except I'm more flashy haha.
Personally me I thought you could have mixed up your ground game a bit more, especially against floaties like Lucario and Kirby and Olimar you can legitimately Jab cancel to D-smash.
You don't use the Sliding Up-smash enough either lol, and you got like no grabs. Otherwise you look overall decent, despite being nervous.
I was thinking for a moment your playstyle reminded me of my own, except I'm more flashy haha.
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
I usually use alot of jab mixups, but I was also out of practice, as soon as my vid with Smash64 is uploaded I'll get that on here, because I was doing really well that day.
I also noticed I started getting really desperate for kills, which is an old habit of mine (it probably had something to do with being nervous as well.) but I plan on working on that, as well.
Plus that spotdodge habit, it's so ugly. It has to go.
EDIT: Also, I'm not a big fan of the Sliding Usmash, I prefer to Usmash OoS if I really feel like killing with it. Otherwise, I'm not against using it as a damage racker, which I find it fairly decent at doing.
I also noticed I started getting really desperate for kills, which is an old habit of mine (it probably had something to do with being nervous as well.) but I plan on working on that, as well.
Plus that spotdodge habit, it's so ugly. It has to go.
EDIT: Also, I'm not a big fan of the Sliding Usmash, I prefer to Usmash OoS if I really feel like killing with it. Otherwise, I'm not against using it as a damage racker, which I find it fairly decent at doing.
Famous
Smash Champion
Yes, Lovage is a perfect example...Though it wont look as good...
I'm basically going to go over drills you can practice to build up your tech skill, zoning, etc...Kinda like Neo's Brawl Marth video...
Yea, sliding up smash is too good...Jab your opponents shield then run behind them with the USmash...
EDIT] Wow Xero, that Lucario player played campy even though he was losing...lol