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The NEOH Thread - OP updated what?????

Chronodiver Lokii

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We're just that festive.
BTW, you guys will realize what a freak i am during christmas time...I like Christmas. A lot.

Ohdang o__o
 

Chronodiver Lokii

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So, what dates work best for everyone? :o

I checked the weather, and the next 10 days are just a mix of sun, clouds..and lots of snow! :D
 

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Sure thing King. Play my Wolf and force me to learn how to not get grabbed vs Pika plz. xD
Why would you use Wolf and not Peach for that MU?

Also, just out of curiosity, is that the character you're thinking of playing over Peach, or was it the other one you used in our MM?

Don't get me wrong, I like Wolf, but it seems like making Peach a secondary for a character who gets gayed by Brawl in general is not the best idea, especially since your Peach is good (sad I never got those friendlies with you, but oh well.).
 

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im assuming playing the wolf v pika with me is just for precaution if someone pulls out pocket pika and hes stuck. not that he intends to play it over peach v pika.
 

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Nah, but I could have sworn somewhere he said he was picking up a new character and pushing Peach to a secondary.
 

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@bufu - KB is prob like me and is toying around with every character under the sun until he finds a good 2ndary or main , etc I still think his pika is legit and he needs to get his confidence back and have faith in some of his characters.


edit - almost lvl 85 , I might start playing smash more then once a tounry soon lol
 

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Why would you use Wolf and not Peach for that MU?

Also, just out of curiosity, is that the character you're thinking of playing over Peach, or was it the other one you used in our MM?

Don't get me wrong, I like Wolf, but it seems like making Peach a secondary for a character who gets gayed by Brawl in general is not the best idea, especially since your Peach is good (sad I never got those friendlies with you, but oh well.).
Yes, I intend to make him my main for the majority of matchups in the game. Peach will better serve me against the matchups that I know how to fight well with her (basically as a backup), matchups that Wolf gets gayed in (Pikachu, Sheik, ICs, possibly DDD although I don't find it too hard, etc.), and matchups where Peach has a clear advantage (Wario, ICs, maybe Sonic if I feel like camping him back, etc.); or whoever I feel will cope best with the stage selection.

Wolf does much better vs MK than Peach does so I just have to learn the ropes on the respective matchup. I'll be working more on my Pikachu as well (mostly for Snake and Falco). He didn't come naturally to me like the other two, but so far my development with him has been pretty good considering I have the necessary tech skill and quick reaction time.

Those are my three: 60% Wolf, 30% Peach, an 10% Pikachu is my intention.


im assuming playing the wolf v pika with me is just for precaution if someone pulls out pocket pika and hes stuck. not that he intends to play it over peach v pika.
This.

You're correct. I'd rather know how to fight those kinds of matchups just in case someone tries to double blind me like I did to Sumer. Better safe than sorry, lol.


<-------thx again loki for a link that is now hereby dubbed "sexy time link part 2!!"

also KB your wolf vs my marth lets get it! XD
You're on. $3 best of 5 at SiiS4 or Hope if we can both make it. Sound good?

Nah, but I could have sworn somewhere he said he was picking up a new character and pushing Peach to a secondary.
More of a co-main, but I do intend to use Wolf more often and hopefully even more than that once I get better with him. I'm just tired of trying to muscle through Peach's hardest three matchups (MK, Snake, and Falco to a lesser extent), lol.
 
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Wolf da bess.

He may get "gayed" in a couple MU's, but you guys are forgetting he has the tools to deal with his bad MU's unlike Fox(he gets ***** even harder by Pikachu, Sheik, ICs, etc.).

Also KB, Wolf actually isn't bad against ICs. The MU is probably close to even for a lot of Wolf mains. Look how Kain does against Hylian and Lain.
 

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Wolf da bess.

He may get "gayed" in a couple MU's, but you guys are forgetting he has the tools to deal with his bad MU's unlike Fox(he gets ***** even harder by Pikachu, Sheik, ICs, etc.).

Also KB, Wolf actually isn't bad against ICs. The MU is probably close to even for a lot of Wolf mains. Look how Kain does against Hylian and Lain.
Yeah I know, but why resort to an even-ish gamble when I can just use my old character who, like, never gets grabbed against them? It's one of those matchups where Peach is truly, truly useful and good.
 

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Yes, I intend to make him my main for the majority of matchups in the game. Peach will better serve me against the matchups that I know how to fight well with her (basically as a backup), matchups that Wolf gets gayed in (Pikachu, Sheik, ICs, possibly DDD although I don't find it too hard, etc.), and matchups where Peach has a clear advantage (Wario, ICs, maybe Sonic if I feel like camping him back, etc.); or whoever I feel will cope best with the stage selection.


Ganon/Wolf MU is 80:20

just cant get by that ftilt

Wolf/Sheik isn't that bad if you know how to space, and you can DI shine out of ftilt lock at a medium percent if i recall correctly. Space those bairs, and if you do get ftilt locked Sheik has a hard time killing due to predictable kill moves

D3 MU is really just a wall until you know how to do it, blaster camp and bair camp like it's your job. Just more annoying then anything.

Without the CG Pika has on Wolf, Wolf has the advantage. You can jump shine jolts and you have more range on Pika
 
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D3 MU is really just a wall until you know how to do it, blaster camp and bair camp like it's your job. Just more annoying then anything.
You forgot retreating canceled F-air. It's safe on D3's shield.

And lol at the Ganon MU. People are ridiculous when it comes to MU discussions involving Wolf. The best was the Kirby that swore up and down that Kirby vs. Wolf was 100:0.
 

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Wolf/Sheik isn't that bad if you know how to space, and you can DI shine out of ftilt lock at a medium percent if i recall correctly. Space those bairs, and if you do get ftilt locked Sheik has a hard time killing due to predictable kill moves
Can't she just Usmash out of the Ftilt lock?

You forgot retreating canceled F-air. It's safe on D3's shield.

And lol at the Ganon MU. People are ridiculous when it comes to MU discussions involving Wolf. The best was the Kirby that swore up and down that Kirby vs. Wolf was 100:0.
Haha, yeah, that was kind of crazy. I still don't know how that MU goes TBH. I've gayed Wolves pretty hard, but never really been ***** by Kirbies as Wolf unless they were ridiculously better than me. That being said, I guess that's kind of been the case for both.
Kind of funny you guys didn't seem to catch that T!mmy was trolling the **** out of you though (actually, some of the kirbies didn't seem to notice either.).





@KB: I really want to play your Wolf now. It looked pretty legit when I saw it, but nothing like playing against it to know. Your playstyle looked way different than mine, so I might be able to pick up a thing or two from your Wolf.
And yeah, I've found Wolf makes for a good MK character (Marth and Snake too, amongst others.).


Also having another good player rep Wolf is pretty cool too.
 

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fro, $5 mm next time i see you bo5?
Can't we stick to $1 MMs? My expenses and my wages are grossly uneven, so I try not to put too much money on the line, especially since I tend to lose a rather large number of my MMs (Maybe it's also because I tend to MM mostly people way better than me, but still...).

When is Bo5? Right now I'm not quite sure when my next tourny will be for the afore-mentioned wage vs expenses issue. Trying to get a car this winter and have both moved back to Dayton and be back in school by March, so yeah, money's a little tight atm.
 

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Ack, you're back in Dayton? There goes any chance of smashes from me...Ya know what though? That's cool. I just need to get me, argent, and fei to start smashes together...The 3 of us live like....5-20 minutes from each other at most...
 

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FYI, TO ALL MELEE PLAYERS. I have a request. My friend bought me a brand new gamecube controller. It should be here tomorrow. I'll break it in on him, but since I havent owned a new controller for the GC since I got my first 2 9-10 years ago...What say this saturday/sunday, to celebrate the start of Winter Break...and to break in this controller...We have a melee smash fest? Anyone up for it? I feel like doin some kens and pullin some knees...
EDIT: Fun fact: He broke my back up that used to be my main...or was it the other way around? Ah well, regardless. He broke a 9 year old controller that is so old n worn its kinda funny (Although not nearly as worn as one specific controller from TYM 8...). Fast forward, I'm breaking this controller in by Falcon combo-ing him, Young link-in him, and ken-ing him till he rages...Maybe throw some falco combos n some pills in there too...
 

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Haaaayyyy guiisseeeee...im sorry if im srsly being obnoxious about this...but for smashfest/christmasness/sledding, what dates would work best? Upcoming Friday/Saturday/Monday wouldnt work for me to host, but i dont have much else planned at my house the rest of my break, so I can work around people's schedules.
I need to know this week though so i can alert my parents/make preparations (moving stuff in my basement to make room for setups, food prep, etc) and whatnot~
 

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Oh, if anyone does wanna do my smashfest this weekend....I can try to get my mom to make spaghetti. You have not lived till you've tried hers. Not a single person I know has ever disliked her spaghetti. Ever. Its good enough that even the left overs are delicious. Perfect food for a smashfest :p. That and pizza xD. I'd have my set up of wii + gc + TV, a spare TV in my room, and anyone who could bring set ups it would be even better. Generally my house is pretty cool, plus we'd be in the living room with the company of a painted turtle watching us while attempting to break out of his glass house.
EDIT: Course it'd just be a matter of makin sure we have meat n noodles enough for 5-10 people xP....
 

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@fro $1's fine i guess...

BO5 = best of five but i'm only gonna do BO3 if it's $1
Oh lol my bad, I thought there was a tourny with an acronym BO5 XD
I fail.

Thanks, sorry to be so cheap, but at least until I move and such, I'm trying to save money. Not even sure if I'll be able to attend tournies until April or so, but IDK, it'll depend on finances. Also I get talked into going to tournaments easily.



Jiffy, I dunno... I alternate between ****** and failing miserably vs Falco.

@Eon: Read the whole post... I *hope* to get back to Dayton *by March*. Meaning I'm still here at least a few months.


Oh btw, Smashfest tomorrow 4-10 PM.
 
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