The Legend of Korra

[Mr. Johan]

An analysis and posited story of the flashbacks Korra's been having

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It would be so nuts if this turned out to be true.

 

[ShroudedOne]

I believe it. Seriously, I enjoy the amount of thought that goes into these kinds of things. I have a feeling that this isn't too far from the truth, to be honest.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Damn.

That actually makes sense.

Smooth Criminal

 

[theeboredone]

I'm confused. How do you figure that none of the Benders today could achieve that level of enlightenment? Is it because of the "encroachment" of civilization? As long as that part of the Bending culture is preserved, it shouldn't simply gutter and die. It'll progress and adapt just like everything else in the world.

Look at Uncle Aroh and Zuko at the end of TLA...and then look at the factory workers, that mobster who lost his bending, and Mako. I would say the definition of "inner peace" is quite different between the eras. I would consent to Mako perhaps having inner peace, but he's a bit hot headed as well. That still doesn't give justice to the factory workers.

Also, perhaps the technology required to refine the metal to such a degree wasn't developed until very recently. And Aang being a nomad has NOTHING to do with anything, really. Just the fact that he was the Avatar. Unless, of course, you're getting at his spiritual development...then I can kind of agree with that.

I meant that...because Aang is a nomad, he is naturally more intune with nature and his own spiritual side. The guy's upbringing was practically in the mountains. You combine that with the fact he is the Avatar...well his growth rate and potential is the sky.

Smooth Criminal

Just cause.

 

[SpiredMoth]

I don't see Mako as any more "hot-headed" than Azula and she was adept at using lightning.

Otherwise I kinda agree that metal- and lightning-bending are a bit too widespread.

 

[theeboredone]

Azula was a very calculating person, even when she went insane. With that being said, I would assume she would have lost her lightning bending after she had gone insane. However, she had that comet to boost her powers.

 

[Alacion]

Wow that speculation is amazing and sounds very plausible.

I would love to see more of Katara. I'm a huge sucker for waterbending scenes!

 

[SUNG666]

Just watched the latest, it was fun

But it's just getting more and more absurd (in a bad way). It makes absolutely no sense why Tarlocks group isn't getting more backlash and that law being proposed was dumb, and those other council members raising their hands without so much as a discussion was even dumber. How in the world was Tarlock able to imprison Asami, Mako, AND Bolin on the spot when they hadn't done anything yet, if ANYTHING Korra would have been the most likely since she physically disturbed the operation. There're other things too... It's still fun watching (action is pretty sick) and I'll watch it to the end but it's just too unrealistic to where I can't enjoy it as much.

 

[theeboredone]

Invite Amon to be part of council. Show ends. Plot over. Everybody wins.

 

[Spelt]

Azula was a very calculating person, even when she went insane. With that being said, I would assume she would have lost her lightning bending after she had gone insane. However, she had that comet to boost her powers.

calculating =/= inner peace.

Azula was the farthest person from inner peace.


I am almost certain Iroh was talking about reflecting lightning. That's the only thing he ever actually taught Zuko. Why would he be talking about generating lightning?




And even so, if Azula could find inner peace there's no arguing literally anybody else could do the same.

I also doubt someone would lose a previously held ability because their mental state faltered.

 

[Airgemini]

^ He attempted to try and teach Zuko but after he failed at it he decided to teach him redirecting instead. Zuko couldn't produce lightning because he didn't have inner peace due to his inner conflicts still pressing on him at the time.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

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[Smooth Criminal]

Also, mental state has a little bit to do with Firebending, at the very least. Zuko's ability to Firebend at all was greatly diminished when he decided to join up with Aang, for instance, because he had relied on his bitterness and rage previously to fuel his power. It wasn't until Toph (in the same episode) recommended that Zuko find another source to draw upon for his Bending---in this case, it was from that sect of Dragon Warriors and the ancient ways of Firebending. Part of it was methodology, of course, but the other part was inspiration and realization that Firebending isn't just about rage and anger.

Smooth Criminal

 

[KrIsP!]

Invite Amon to be part of council. Show ends. Plot over. Everybody wins.

I thought Tenzin would propose this but if Tarlok is intimidating the others than it won't happen.

As for Yakone...wasn't he a fire bender or was that just my imagination? I thought they said he was in like the third episode.

Also, it says book One: Air. Could there be a second season then?

 

[BirthNote]

It was for deflecting.

I've already corrected this multiple times earlier in the thread.

My apolo....nevermind.

I made sure to check the Avatar Wiki. Under lightning bending, that is where they mention Uncle Aroh's comments about "inner peace" and "emotional detachment" when it comes to generating it. Something clearly none of these benders today have, which makes, as I said earlier...the plot out the window. I have feeling the same expectations should be met for Metalbending, given Toph had to work so hard to achieve it. Even if it's 70 years later, there's no way everyone and their kids should be able to generate either technique. I doubt Mako has found "inner peace" and "emotional detachment" let alone those factory workers who help make the cars.

Ah so it was for generating it. Anyway based on the rest of your post, maybe there's more than one way to create lightning. With enough people using it there's bound to be innovations. Y'know, like how most firebenders used rage when there turned out to be other ways to channel it. There's probably a 'science' behind it.

Yeah, it was definitely for generation that he said those things were required. Hence why Zuko could never learn how to do it. It's in Bitter Work iirc.

I don't necessarily think Metal bending being a part of the mainstream in 70 years is completely far fetched. Toph was pretty proficient at it in less than one season after discovering it. Yeah sure, her blindness gave her an edge on becoming proficient at it, but Aang not being blind also learned how to sense the vibrations in the earth similar to her in the course of like, two seasons. Teaching a mass group those basics doesn't seem too hard to grasp for me.

I liked it better when lightning was exclusive to the royal Fire Nation family, but I can deal.

I agree with what you posted about metalbending. Blue fire still seems to be exclusive to the royal family though. I wouldn't be surprised if that changed however.

I'm confused. How do you figure that none of the Benders today could achieve that level of enlightenment? Is it because of the "encroachment" of civilization? As long as that part of the Bending culture is preserved, it shouldn't simply gutter and die. It'll progress and adapt just like everything else in the world.

And Mako easily meets the criteria necessary for being able to manipulate lightning, considering the kind of character he is. Except where Bolin's immediate safety is concerned (i.e. when he was kidnapped), he's as cool as a cucumber and extremely thoughtful (as in, full of thought). Hell, I'd argue that his origins lend even more credence to the fact that he'd be able to Bend lightning---you don't survive on the streets acting the fool and trying to beat the **** out of everybody you meet. You gotta be smart and show a little circumspection; otherwise, you're gonna be just another statistic.

Smooth Criminal

Makes sense.

Invite Amon to be part of council. Show ends. Plot over. Everybody wins.

I thought it would be interesting if he became a council member, which reminds me: are there any non-bender council members? Because Tenzin DEFINITELY would've had an ally when Tarlock proposed that law. Now I wanna see Amon vs Tarlock. THAT would be amazing.

calculating =/= inner peace.

Azula was the farthest person from inner peace.
And even so, if Azula could find inner peace there's no arguing literally anybody else could do the same.

Yup.

I am almost certain Iroh was talking about reflecting lightning. That's the only thing he ever actually taught Zuko. Why would he be talking about generating lightning?

Because this was the first and pretty much only episode where lightning was explained. It wouldn't make sense to talk about redirecting lightning without saying how its generated--especially since Azula uses it often. And I thought Iroh was originally going to teach Zuko to generate it, but that failed and he had to learn the next best thing.

I also doubt someone would lose a previously held ability because their mental state faltered.

I wouldn't be surprised. There's things irl that can't be done in the wrong state of mind, so my guesses for Azula still using lightning while unstable are 1) she knows other methods to generate it. 2) Azula knows how to focus no matter what she's been through 3) Continuity error.

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I doubt there'd be 2 avatars but...it might be possible I guess. They might get in eachother's way, but I bet Korra would like having to do less work lol.

Anyway, the good news about bloodbenders is that chi-blocking Equalists have NOTHING to prevent being manipulated. Forget metalbenders, we need a *Dai Li-esque black ops team of bloodbenders to hunt down Amon's forces.

*For those who didn't know, the Dai Li were actually created by Avatar Kyoshi to maintain peace, but they became corrupt after she died and harrassed Aang in Ba Sing Se. Turning on the reincarnation of your organization's founder--that's despicable.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

@ BirthNote: I agree with point #2 about Azula. It makes the most sense, considering how personalized enlightenment and awareness are ingrained in the martial arts culture; same can be said with certain tenets of Eastern philosophy as well. The Avatar world is practically centered around that.

To put it simply (since I'm at work): It's utilizing different means to achieve the same or similar ends.

Smooth Criminal

 

[dettadeus]

Watched the first episode yesterday.

Welp, time to binge this and get caught up.

 

[Airgemini]

Also, it says book One: Air. Could there be a second season then?

It's already been confirmed there'll be a second season.

I wonder what they're going to call that book btw.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Book 1: Water, Book 2: Earth, Book 3: Fire, Book 4: Air...

Uhh...

Book 5: Team Avatar

 

[theeboredone]

Would be interesting if the other three are called "Blood" "Lightning" and "Metal/Platinum"

Unless they plan on beefing up Korra's skills, where she is creating tsunamis and volcanos...

 

[The Real Gamer]

Gravity bending o.0

 

[Strong Badam]

Paper Bending

 

[KrIsP!]

Will bending.

 

[BirthNote]

Gravity bending o.0

THIS. It would also be amazing if someone was powerful enough to bend the stars. I have no idea how it'd be possible for this show though, so maybe they could have an in-universe myth of a hero who did it.

 

[SnackAttack]

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Clip of next week's episode

 

[Alacion]

[COLLAPSE="Spoiler"]Oh damn. I like the way you think Tarrlok!

But what happens when Korra inevitably returns to Republic City? What's Amon going to do about this set-up?

(Perhaps this is the point in the story where Korra develops her spirituality now that she may possibly be isolated from... well everything)[/COLLAPSE]

 

[LLDL]

What a *****

 

[Wizzrobe]

Is there a new episode tomorrow?

 

[KrIsP!]

Why wouldn't there be, is there another American holiday?

 

[LLDL]

No, there will be one

 

[SnackAttack]

This show, man...

 

[Grandeza]

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[Disfunkshunal]

Really good episode. Seeing adult team avatar was pretty great too.

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/prettymuchwhathesaid^^^

 

[BirthNote]

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. Setting a

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after the equalists still seems like a good idea,

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Maybe...

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[ShroudedOne]

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[Airgemini]

Still wondering where Katara was at.

But I wish they explained this whole broken blood bending a bit more. They showed it, but there wasn't a how. Amon is overpowered, but very interesting.

Season finale two weeks from now already, geez.

 

[KrIsP!]

Don't wanna read any of this.

Anyone have a good site that streams or has a download link so I can watch? PM me the link if you, my usual site is down, every site I check says it comes out tomorrow but I'll be busy tomorrow and I'm bored now.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Adult Toph was voiced by Kate Higgins, who nowadays is the voice of Tails in the Sonic the Hedgehog series. Fun to know.

And holy **** immunity to Bloodbending. Amon is just full of surprises. Though he seems to have just changed his mind on saving Korra for last if he wanted the Lieutenant and Equalists to tie her up to take with them.

I liked Tarlok through the whole episode, he just steadily lost his composure through the whole episode.

The finale's gonna be good.

 

[theeboredone]

Tarlok just proved to be scum, just not to the highest degree as his father. I mean, what's to say he couldn't be the savior while working in a more methodical and peaceful way? Like father, like son I suppose.

It's gonna be crazy to imagine how amped up Korra is gonna be by the end of this series. For now though, I guess I want to know more about Amon than anything else.

Btw, that

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episode Zuko's VA talked about is set to be part of the season finale.

 

[KrIsP!]

1 hour season finale, I wanted to see a war at the end but this better not be THE end. Although I would've been fine if this ep was the season finale and korra as just left in the snow to freeze. Stick to what you know best Avatars