Obvious addition reaction time, yes.
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The Captain Falcon Q&A Thread
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Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
It was directly related to his question, so one can't exactly assume that it was an obvious factor, now can they? lol
Tech-Nelium the Shark
Smash Ace
does nair force get up if they didn't tech
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Nair doesn't send anyone to the ground. I think you are confused...
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
I think he means if someone hits the ground and you're able to hit them with the first hit of the Nair, then will it force get up?
I doubt it does, but I can't say for certain. I've never been able to make someone bounce and magically be in the air and within FH Nair distance to try it. Plus, it would be hard to time it properly since the hitbox doesn't stay out.
I doubt it does, but I can't say for certain. I've never been able to make someone bounce and magically be in the air and within FH Nair distance to try it. Plus, it would be hard to time it properly since the hitbox doesn't stay out.
teluoborg
Smash Otter
No U
He was talking about if we hit a knocked down opponent with FHNair.
The answer is no, it doesn't.
Edit : ninja'd by Darky.
He was talking about if we hit a knocked down opponent with FHNair.
The answer is no, it doesn't.
Edit : ninja'd by Darky.
Tech-Nelium the Shark
Smash Ace
no i was talking about if i hit someone with another move and then if they didn't tech it could i use the first hit of nair to force a get up. All i need to know is if it has locking potential, sorry i wasn't really specific with my question
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Yeah, that's what we're saying.
I don't think it's possible, though.
A weak Bair has locking potential up until a certain percent, so that's much more reliable. Interesting question though, someone should look into it.
I don't think it's possible, though.
A weak Bair has locking potential up until a certain percent, so that's much more reliable. Interesting question though, someone should look into it.
Tech-Nelium the Shark
Smash Ace
thanks i would try it myself but i don't own a wii. And does falcon have a complete frame data guide
lordhelmet
Smash Master
We have some frame data but by no means a complete guide.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=260826[/url]
Edit: I don't remember where the other threads went but they had some data on his smash attacks :S if you're really needing to see them they're in my guide under the "Move Analysis".
mlorenzo
Smash Journeyman
The only attacks that force get up is bair, upair and ftilt if the opponent is in low percent.
This ^
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Falcon's dash attack doesn't have a sour spot that causes force get-up, does he? Majority of the roster does, but there's a few exceptions. Not sure if Falcon's one of 'em.
Punisher93
Smash Cadet
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hey man,
is first hit nair < uair < jab... a combo at lower percents?
For example at Ganondorf, or maybe even all chars i dunno?
Can't test it on real player at the moment
is first hit nair < uair < jab... a combo at lower percents?
For example at Ganondorf, or maybe even all chars i dunno?
Can't test it on real player at the moment
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
First hit nair -> UAIR -> jab? Uhhh... the Uair would knock them back too far and you'd be in the air, so getting a guaranteed jab? I don't see that being a possibility, regardless of the percentage.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Yeah, but you'd be auto-canceling the uair right at that moment that it hits. You'd have to use the uair while rising after the FH nair from what Punisher was implying. That'd give them a lot of reaction time.
Maybe another attack, but jab? Doubt that.
Maybe another attack, but jab? Doubt that.
Punisher93
Smash Cadet
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haven't tried it?
the uair really doesn't kick them that far away, so please try it one time.
and you get pretty quick back on the ground if you just fastfall
Or do CPUs really suck that hard?
Edit: wow you're fast man ;D
Player-3 know's that he knows everything that could been known and my english suck
the uair really doesn't kick them that far away, so please try it one time.
and you get pretty quick back on the ground if you just fastfall
Or do CPUs really suck that hard?
Edit: wow you're fast man ;D
Player-3 know's that he knows everything that could been known and my english suck
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
CPUs just don't feel the need to avoid things that can otherwise be DI'd or shielded. Falcon has a lot of pseudo combos from a fast fall uair at lower percents, as well as with his bair, but uhhh...
FH Nair -> Uair -> Jab shouldn't work, even if they're at 0%.
FH Nair -> Uair -> Jab shouldn't work, even if they're at 0%.
Punisher93
Smash Cadet
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yeah ok, but even if the jab doesn't work, is it even usefull to just firsthitnair < uair?
maybe near the ledge if the opponents has some high percents?
maybe near the ledge if the opponents has some high percents?
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
^
This.
FH Nair -> Up+B is the best option in singles though.
17%+ each time (unless you stale it).
CelestialMarauder~
Smash Ace
Is there a list of all CF's GR options on every character? If so can i get a link to it?
lordhelmet
Smash Master
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=224748[/url]
I'm not sure how accurate every character is but there it is.
CelestialMarauder~
Smash Ace
For some reason i thought there would be more Thanks anyway tho : D
teluoborg
Smash Otter
It's incomplete. you can Uair a lot of chars (Lucas, Mario, Jiggs...) and you can even knee Ness. Maybe you can hyphen smash Lucas too but I'm not sure.
Definetely needs more testing.
Definetely needs more testing.
lordhelmet
Smash Master
You can't uair Jiggz l0l, it goes way too high. But yeah definitely kneeds more testing.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
I actually never tested up+B on Jiggs.
Is that actually legit?
Is that actually legit?
yes /
teluoborg
Smash Otter
Jiggs doesn't release that high. I'm almost certain you can DJ Uair her.
lordhelmet
Smash Master
You can't lmao. Me and Darky just double-checked.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Yeah, up+B doesn't work, nor does uair.
teluoborg
Smash Otter
Ok my bad.
Now you should try chars with an exploitable GR trajectory (aka Mario, Luigi, Lucas, Kirby, Ivy, maybe Pika, maybe Oli).
Now you should try chars with an exploitable GR trajectory (aka Mario, Luigi, Lucas, Kirby, Ivy, maybe Pika, maybe Oli).
lordhelmet
Smash Master
I bet we can uair a lot of characters. And I think Ness can nair before we knee but they gotta know what you're trying to pull. Idk maybe my timing is just off.
If anyone wants to continue the GR thread be my guest. If you do I would suggest putting "strict timing" for things like kneeing Ness and regrabbing MK.
If anyone wants to continue the GR thread be my guest. If you do I would suggest putting "strict timing" for things like kneeing Ness and regrabbing MK.
..no rising AD?