The Captain Falcon Q&A Thread

[lordhelmet]

I meant jump up and away lol. MK might be able to uair out, but I don't think it would hit Falcon or beat usmashe's disjoint for that matter.

 

[Zeallyx]

I meant jump up and away lol. MK might be able to uair out, but I don't think it would hit Falcon or beat usmashe's disjoint for that matter.

If MK can do that, he can also shuttle loop our B-hind.

 

[exdia_16]

Sup guys Ive been playing with falcon lately and been having a blast but I have been finding it hard to hit with FH Nair any suggestions? Also can anyone post some u-tube vids of some good falcons I have seen most of lord helmets vids and ally

the best way to pull off a knee is to be unexpected on ur approach thats it thats all but dont spam the knee then you will become to predictable just wait til u feel its ready the more you wait the better trust me i know here r my vids.


video 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qzz0AOl1bU
video 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-3ps9W-NUE



ps.subscribe and the others will be up later.xD

 

[teluoborg]

If MK can do that, he can also shuttle loop our B-hind.

No he can't, shuttle loop is too slow (for this) and doesn't have inv frames in the air.

And Lordy Uair works, I learnt it while playing the best french MK. Obviously not every MK knows that so it will work sometimes, but don't expect to land it on top MKs.

 

[Player-3]

i think you guys are just doing it wrong

 

[lordhelmet]

If MK can do that, he can also shuttle loop our B-hind.

No he can't.

No he can't, shuttle loop is too slow (for this) and doesn't have inv frames in the air.

And Lordy Uair works, I learnt it while playing the best french MK. Obviously not every MK knows that so it will work sometimes, but don't expect to land it on top MKs.

I know that, I stated that uair works already.

i think you guys are just doing it wrong

The MKs you are playing are doing it wrong.

 

[Darky-Sama]

The frames for Meta Knight to jump + air dodge is shorter than his up+B by a few frames. A lot of the stuff that's suppose to be guaranteed on MK after a grab release is garbage because he can avoid it with a jump -> air dodge.

Falcon's Uair is the only thing Falcon has that's guaranteed from my knowledge. The smashes work against MKs that just spam up+B like they can usually do to avoid ****, but it can be avoided.

 

[_Fizzy_]

I just noticed why isnt there a video thread up o.0

 

[Zeallyx]

No he can't, shuttle loop is too slow (for this) and doesn't have inv frames in the air.

No he can't.

Oh ok. My bad, lol.

And lol@lordy talking all interwebz-bigshot.

They grow up so fast..

 

[lordhelmet]

Just living up to my internet bad-assery

 

[†Slader7†]

I just noticed why isnt there a video thread up o.0

here u go

Rate My Falcon Thread by Winnar

 

[Zeallyx]

Just living up to my internet bad-assery

I know ^_^

 

[Yung Mei]

yo, i was just on smash wiki looking up on CF- i saw that the ganon matchup is 55:45 in ganon's favor

is that right? cuz i was like "wat"

 

[Zatchiel]

Your doin it wrong
It's 55:45 Falcon's Favor.
But a matchup that close just shows what Falcon is crap x___x

 

[lordhelmet]

yo, i was just on smash wiki looking up on CF- i saw that the ganon matchup is 55:45 in ganon's favor

is that right? cuz i was like "wat"

Stopped reading when I saw "smash wiki"

 

[†Slader7†]

yo, i was just on smash wiki looking up on CF- i saw that the ganon matchup is 55:45 in ganon's favor

is that right? cuz i was like "wat"

SmashWiki hasn't been updated for like a year (or 2 ).

 

[Yung Mei]

ppppppppppppfffffffffffffffffftttttttttt

i was @ school at the time i actually looked it up ;.;
they blocked smash boards so i went to smash wiki

 

[Darky-Sama]

They updated smash wiki, but it's not accurate. Just a few ratios that the SBR came up with so they had something down.

 

[Deleted member]

so i asked this in the wrong thread, but are chain-grabs possible with falcon?

 

[†Slader7†]

FThrow pseudo-CGs for heavy/fast falling characters up to like 15% but its not 100% safe

 

[lordhelmet]

so i asked this in the wrong thread, but are chain-grabs possible with falcon?

No. Other than grab release>regrab on Squirtle

 

[Darky-Sama]

And on Meta Knight. If you don't buffer it properly Meta Knight's going to molest your face. Chances are, he'll still molest your face if he knows how to avoid it {and if you're even 2-3 frames off of your buffering}, but the grab comes out quicker than his attacks do if you buffer it correctly. So I'd say it's worth using.

 

[Player-3]

only 2 frames of buffer out of a grab release

so yeah

 

[Darky-Sama]

The timing is strict, lets just leave it at that. lmao

 

[Zatchiel]

FThrow pseudo-CGs for heavy/fast falling characters up to like 15% but its not 100% safe

This is what i enjoy using.

No. Other than grab release>regrab on Squirtle

Gotta start doing that when i get a grab, which is hard to do on an aerial Squirtle.

And on Meta Knight. If you don't buffer it properly Meta Knight's going to molest your face. Chances are, he'll still molest your face if he knows how to avoid it {and if you're even 2-3 frames off of your buffering}, but the grab comes out quicker than his attacks do if you buffer it correctly. So I'd say it's worth using.

Lawlz, the buffering necessary is flat out difficult, but it's worth it.
Otherwise, i don't know what has the speedDsmash, But MK will get out it pretty easily if you mess up on the buffering by even a few frames.

 

[Willz]

lol i'm da bess

 

[teluoborg]

Hey guys, I've been trying Grab release to pivot grab on Wario, and it seems like it's working... in training mode. Anyone can test it with a human player ?

 

[lordhelmet]

Hey guys, I've been trying Grab release to pivot grab on Wario, and it seems like it's working... in training mode. Anyone can test it with a human player ?

Pretty sure Wario will be able to jump out before you can grab him

 

[Zeallyx]

Pretty sure Wario will be able to jump out before you can grab him

This^, unfortunately.

Although its worth looking into, imo. As it would be beast if it worked.

 

[Player-3]

if falcons pivot grab wasn't 14 frames it would work.

 

[Zeallyx]

if falcons pivot grab wasn't 14 frames it would work.

Well that's just too bad.

 

[†Slader7†]

How long are other character's pivot grabs compared to Falcon's?

 

[lordhelmet]

How long are other character's pivot grabs compared to Falcon's?

Not as long. Idk any specifics though

 

[Player-3]

most chars pivot grabs (ignoring tethers) are as fast (if not faster) as a standing grab, which is 6ish frames


falcon is around double that length.


pick falcon, and pivot grab


pick anyone else besides ZSS, and pivot grab



there is a very large difference

 

[lordhelmet]

most chars pivot grabs (ignoring tethers) are as fast (if not faster) as a standing grab, which is 6ish frames


falcon is around double that length.


pick falcon, and pivot grab


pick anyone else besides ZSS, and pivot grab



there is a very large difference

Snack .

 

[Player-3]

most .

 

[lordhelmet]

most .

I meant Snack's is fast.

 

[Player-3]

so is:

fox
falco
marth
sheik


well speaking of shiek zeldas grab is complete trash

ic
luigi
mario
etc
etc

snack

 

[teluoborg]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=234915
Falcon's pivot grab is frame 16. And when air releasing anyone you have an advantage of 20 frames so technically it's possible.

Also the hitbox of pivot grab seems way higher than standing grab, so high it makes Wario teleport into your hand when you grab him from a GR.
So I'd want you to test it before saying it's impossible.

 

[†Slader7†]

wow, our pivot grab sucks hard
frames are too wacky
Falcon = 16
ZSS = 16 (tether)
Ganon = 10 o.O

I've been trying to shove pivots into my playing style but they're only good for punishing lengthy moves while moving away (Falcon kicks, Luca's DAir) and they don't work more than twice

People are just too smart
/sarcasm