Smashing Grounds REVIVED: 4 - 2/13/2010 -- Glen Ellyn, IL!

[LoOshKiN]

I don't know who it was, but who ever friendly doubles with me has to get on here who did the "F-YOU" then wall-teched into a Warlock Punch. Too good.

Yeah, just missed my Up-B after the tech. I don't remember if I reversed the Warlock Punch or not but it was probably the most godly and graceful stock I've ever lost in a friendly.

 

[Quaz]

Good games to everyone today

shoulda brought my setups inside so I could play against more people! I wanted to play Matt R, Ray Chun, Cosmo, Oro, Kels, Tink, sago, and uhh everyone else

Kels man you're still way too good, I'm still trying though, if I have to be the one to eventually take you out then so be it
Tink man you counter the hell outta me, I have no idea how to even fight your style =( I'l lget there though
Mendoza that samus is clutch, I'l lget you next time though
Vino you beat Mendoza Matt R and Mendoza again, almost got cosmo too! too good bro, peach vs jiggs is an annoying match up, I gotta really use patience in that one
Henrik you almost came back and won that 3rd game, ggs

I hope to see you all next Sunday.

 

[Meneks]

playing spacies is not nearly as mindless as you make it seem.

I agree with this...

 

[Mendoza]

Dude. Don't forget me tying for 5th.
Meta Game Samus.

 

[Tomacawk]

fox is one of the hardest characters to be good with matt wtf you talking about

 

[Oro?!]

Can't handle them air strikes.

 

[_marth1_]

y'all mm my fox at smym plz

 

[Mundungu]

GGs all, fun tourney. And of course fox is easy to be good with, he's top tier.

I'll post full results soon-ish. I haven't slept yet so i'm heading to bed now.

Mundungu, do you have any time frame for the videos?

I can have the vids probably by tuesday. I didn't actually get too many matches, I do have teams loser's finals and grand finals for sure, along with a bunch of random singles matches.

Could you post the bracket somewhere so I can tell who was playing in the singles matches?

 

[iamthemicrowave]

**** good **** cosmo! id like to see full results

also who is vino?? good **** man, just surprised never heard of you before

 

[Spit-wad]

also who is vino?? good **** man, just surprised never heard of you before

Puff from Madison

 

[BunBun]

i enjoy playing against cosmo

its refreshing to know that my opponent is actually thinking instead of trying to do as many nair shines as possible lollolo

It's better than getting fullhop nair combo'd....

Cosmo, was this a team Grief event?

 

[Vinodh]

**** good **** cosmo! id like to see full results

also who is vino?? good **** man, just surprised never heard of you before

It's cuz this was my first OoS tourny

Shoutouts later maybe

 

[paralasalud]

so disappointed i didn't participate, but really glad i came and played some friendlies/spectated hardcore.
see you guys next week.

 

[john!]

Vino = WI secret weapon

GG's all!

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Teams:
1: Team Win (Tink & Kels) ($108.00)
2: Shanghai Noon (Rayyyy & matt) ($54.00)
3: PSFM (Sveet & Bzoo) ($18.00)
4: Pikdom (Gibby & Vino)
5: Team Grease Fire (Cosmo & Sago)
5: Punching Someone on the Train as it Passes By (Vro & DarkSonicBrawler99)

--Pools cutoff
7: Team Ian (ENG & sanchez)
7: Team Super Supreme (Skitz & McSnapple)
7: Flying Kneegles (Newmann & Spit)

Singles:
1: Kels ($174.00)
2: Cosmo ($87.00)
3: Tink ($29.00)
4: MaineCoon
5: Matt
5: Mendoza
7: Ray Chun
7: Vro
9: ORLY?
9: Sveet
9: Quaz
9: Henrick
13: Bzoo
13: The Goon Platoon
13: Mundungu
13: Mars

-- Pools cutoff
17: Gibby
17: ENG
17: JTK
17: DarkSonicBrawler99
21: Wale
21: Shawn White
21: John
21: Sanchez
25: Lo0shKiN
25: Spit
25: TDC
25: Andrew
29: McSnapple

 

[iamthemicrowave]

**** vro u got chun'd

 

[ORLY]

Matt R we should definitely play more. Our matches were really good, even if I almost completely gave up Falcon because of your Sheik. ;D

 

[Vro]

i need more falco v sheik practice. i ended up placing as well as chun, even tho i lost to mendonza, who failed against the upset jiggs.

 

[Zeu$]

And of course fox is easy to be good with, he's top tier.

such absolute bs. Fox takes such a mental strain to play with an entire tournament. He gets comboed to death by like the whole top tier. Plus he has a technical barrier not apparent in the other characters. at sheik mains calling a character easy. The only match sheik even has trouble in is against fox.

 

[SuperMatt]

fox falco jiggs all murder sheik when played properly

 

[Zeu$]

fox falco jiggs all murder sheik when played properly

your being mad hyperbolic. Its at the point now anyway that player skill is the hugest factor in deciding matches, not characters. Look at Amsah, he wrecked Jman. You can't blame your character for your losses, this ain't street fighter.

this also raises the question why don't you just play falco then. Your falco is good so if you feel sheik is so disadvantaged why play her?

 

[iamthemicrowave]

lol sheik johns...

she goes at least even with every character in this game rofl

 

[Zeu$]

lol sheik johns...

she goes at least even with every character in this game rofl

I wouldn't say that, but its not as grim as its being displayed.

imo

60/40 falco
55/45 fox

jiggs might have an advantage, IDK, I haven't played that match much. maybe ic's, but who plays them lol.
But after those 2(or 3) sheik has advantage on everyone else in the game. Everyone else. Sheik johns are so displaced its funny.

this is after playing kels for like 4 hours in these matchups. His falco was by far harder to overcome than fox. Still I don't feel the matchups are by any means hopeless.

 

[Puffinator]

Personally I think that the sheik puff matchup is either even or a little bit in sheiks favor...sheiks bair ftilt and downthrow slap work good against jiggz, and she's not the easiest to edgeguard.
But then again this is just from personal experience with caleb, he may just know the matchup really well

 

[Dart]

I wouldn't say that, but its not as grim as its being displayed.

imo

60/40 falco
55/45 fox

jiggs might have an advantage, IDK, I haven't played that match much. maybe ic's, but who plays them lol.
But after those 2(or 3) sheik has advantage on everyone else in the game. Everyone else. Sheik johns are so displaced its funny.

this is after playing kels for like 4 hours in these matchups. His falco was by far harder to overcome than fox. Still I don't feel the matchups are by any means hopeless.

i know you weren't talking about marth but, marth vs sheik. hopeless. i think so.

 

[Zeu$]

i know you weren't talking about marth but, marth vs sheik. hopeless. i think so.

I would have to say if the sheik is near the marths skill or on par its severely uphill. If the sheik is even a slightly better player tho, yes that **** is impossible lol.

 

[SuperMatt]

fox has no bad matchups though IMO, all at least are 50/50

and i do use falco if i cant win with sheik, that happened in two sets this tourney

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I would have to say if the sheik is near the marths skill or on par its severely uphill. If the sheik is even a slightly better player tho, yes that **** is impossible lol.

Why I no longer play marth vs ray chun.


@Mundungu: I have a MM on your recording setup. Sveet (black marth) vs Tink (white marth) for 2 games, 3rd game he plays blue fox. IIRC the time on your recording said 4h~20m

 

[Sn1per]

Why I no longer play marth vs ray chun.


@Mundungu: I have a MM on your recording setup. Sveet (black marth) vs Tink (white marth) for 2 games, 3rd game he plays blue fox. IIRC the time on your recording said 4h~20m

Not toooo long ago I played an entire night of Marth v Chun and lost zero matches. Marth can own sheik if you follow a very important rule.

A rule so important that I cannot type it here.

-Zec

 

[Rat]

wtf Vro

 

[Dart]

Not toooo long ago I played an entire night of Marth v Chun and lost zero matches. Marth can own sheik if you follow a very important rule.

A rule so important that I cannot type it here.

-Zec

Vids or it didn't happen.

 

[Tomacawk]

lololol @ vro getting chun'd
a perfect fox has no bad matchups. A human fox has to work really hard to stay even with marf, falco, puff, samus...
let's not forget about mannondorf
also I agree with pretty much everything zeus said about matchups

 

[Brightside6382]

I completely forgot about this. Ill show up next time luls

 

[Mundungu]

Here are all of the recorded tourney matches:

Teams

Grand Finals

Kels / Tink vs Matt R / Ray Chun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_wOPS9D5A8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Rne0er-yQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YwzXOJBDU4

Losers Finals

Matt R / Ray Chun vs Sveet / Bzoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KU639JCIxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTLeI_RHB20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r43sFW4S5ow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqcH6wuytmU


Singles

Vino vs Mendoza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weE6Bqy-LQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ddDot7Sby4

Tink vs Quaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9H-vTjxms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojwDm0jBRE8

Mendoza vs Vro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8apmsexDQq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NumkNlG2VJU

Tink vs Sveet Money Match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNh3NQGfE6U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGjGoaoCf4M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXmQy5wYOp8

 

[AnDaLe]

Wow, i just watch one of the Tink vs Sveet vids, all it was for 3 minutes was grab and throw off stage and try to spike and recover, repeat.

 

[LSDX]

Singles:
1: Kels ($174.00)
2: Cosmo ($87.00)
3: Tink ($29.00)
4: MaineCoon
5: Matt
5: Mendoza
7: Ray Chun
7: Vro
9: ORLY?
9: Sveet
9: Quaz
9: Henrick
13: Bzoo
13: The Goon Platoon
13: Mundungu
13: Mars

-- Pools cutoff
17: Gibby
17: ENG
17: JTK
17: DarkSonicBrawler99
21: Wale
21: Shawn White
21: John
21: Sanchez
25: Lo0shKiN
25: Spit
25: TDC
25: Andrew
29: McSnapple

It hurts...

;-;

 

[ORLY]

Man, this is all so crazy. If you guys want match-up johns, play Falcon. I have to play balls out the entire time or I lose. He has no good match-up against the entire top tier. Sure, he can **** sometimes and it's fun as hell to do/watch happen, but openings are hard to come by at tourney level play.

 

[john!]

Man, this is all so crazy. If you guys want match-up johns, play Falcon. I have to play balls out the entire time or I lose. He has no good match-up against the entire top tier. Sure, he can **** sometimes and it's fun as hell to do/watch happen, but openings are hard to come by at tourney level play.

Switch to a top tier char cmon! Seriously though I'm thinking of switching to Sheik or Falco because Peach also has bad MU's with the top tier (except maybe going even with Falco). Or just not giving a **** about winning and maining G&W for fun.

 

[Brightside6382]

lol you guys worry about matchups to much. Seriously 6-4 matchps are not that bad

 

[Quaz]

lol actually I dont think peach is TOO bad against the other top tiers, she still sorta loses to them though IMO

btw I am VERY unhappy that set vs tink was uploaded =(