There are foes that Samus don't need to stun to steal there shields away.
In case you didn’t notice my earlier comments…I’m aware of her being able to do that…but you are aware that those are weak foes again right?
Metal and Stone abilities are for defensive purposes and really shouldn't used to counter every fight. Kirby's offensive abilities are more than enough to send people soaring. Plasma alone is a broken offensive abilitiy with good defensive by itself.
Plasma alone is a broken ability that is worthless vs. a good % of the characters here…why not talk about the “star chariot” or something else like that…you know…one of those things that has beaten powerful demons?
The teleporting monkey does not stop time when teaching it to Ness. If it was instant, Ness would not be able to observe it.
I never said the monkey stopped time…I said it moves to where it wants to in an instant…and you are aware that Ness has already been exposed by this point to foes that phase in and out of space and time freely right? I mean…he was just done with Moonside for one thing before he learns how to teleport…I mean…Moonside was only a physical representation of Giygas’ power that attracted demons that stopped time and moved through space in case you didn’t get that part…and before Moonside…the power was seen as a god power for a cult that caused mass hypnosis in the public that actually has proof that it reached all throughout “Eagleland” (as in…not just Happy Happy Village…but there is proof that people from Fourside and Onett were there)
Time stopping during the start up time is to prevent random things (a car) from appearing and stopping your move. That is a game mechanic.
Actually…in case you haven’t got my point yet…the “power up” movement in general is the game mech. because in case you can’t tell…Ness and his team pass through things quite freely when they “start” and “end” the teleport in plenty of story sequences and of course through game play…
On another note…I like how you didn’t respond to my pointing out the simple fact that according to the games rules…teleport lets Ness move anywhere as long as he knows about it…but you seem to think he has to “charge it” 1st…even though the game clearly points out that said charge is a game mech that the game constantly doesn’t follow in many events…but let me repeat my point again:
So what if he wants to move to something that is only a few feet away? Would he have to power up the same amount just to do that? Because in case you can’t tell…the same “charge time” happens for each distance…as in…he would reach the thing in the amount of time the charge would take place in case you don’t get that…
No, because SS's health bar wouldn't go down unless he got hit, whereas rings would go down anyway.
So…are you saying that the exact same game with the exact same story is different? Because that is what it seems like you are doing by you not getting what happens in SU…
And you clearly don’t get my main point…which was that invincibility in games is clearly a product of game mechs. meant for helping the player actually play said games most of the time…Sonic Unleashed clearly shows that…by having two different game mechs. for the same game (only on different systems)
Shadowlink brought this up, but I just want to say that the point is that Chaos wasn't using the full power of the emeralds, and couldn't hurt SS, while Dark Gaia was, and could hurt SS.
Except in the PS2/Wii versions of the game >_>
Oh…and how was Chaos not using the full power of the emeralds? I hardly see – to be < + for a realistic view point…
But the Data of Chaos =/= the power of the emeralds. If it did, chaos shouldn't have had to "eat" the emeralds to gain his final form. He transforms to look somewhat like Perfect Chaos i guess, but like i said, he used the data of chaos, which =/= use of the chaos emeralds. Chaos control doesn't matter. He copied Shadow's data, meaning that he gained his ability of Chaos control without using an emerald. MS didn't use the emeralds, and how could he use them when the cutscenes clearly show Sonic and co. holding the emeralds?
A. Chaos control and said chaos powers can be used as long as the user is close enough to an emerald…you don’t have to have an emerald on you…you merely have to be around one…the fact that Metal Sonic transforms at around the same time Sonic does in said game shows hints for this this…because:
B. The chaos emerald’s energy has left its mark in many things…like Metal Sonic…because in case you don’t know…he has transformed before into a super form…w/o the exact use of the chaos emeralds…like for example one of the things he used was the chaos rings…which are things that have some of the power of the chaos emeralds in them…
C. Metal Sonic copies things…and has been exposed to the energy of the chaos emeralds 2-3 times as far as the games are considered before Sonic Heroes…and it’s implied that he is bloody insane for some reason as well ^_^
Because he copied Chaos's data, which =/= using the chaos emeralds.
Chaos 7 was chaos 7 only with use of the 7 emeralds though…and Metal Sonic’s form has a lot in common with said appearance of him…so…I wonder what that means?
Oh…and according to Eggman’s calculations in that game…even with the 7 emeralds…their chances of victory were slim (which is odd…because how can you judge an unlimited power source anyway?)
I wonder why victory was slim even though the good guy side had a source of unlimited power? Could it be because the other side had enough exposure to it as well?
Again, shadow shows you don't,
Could you please show me an example of where Shadow does not use an emerald or being around an emerald when using Chaos Control…thank you…
Assuming you're talking about where you're fighting Eggman in space, he wasn't using the emeralds energy. Do you have any proof that he was? He was holding it, and it was in no way connected to the actual weapontry of the machine. The D-Day machine using the emerald sounds like an assumption to me.
He was only “holding it” when SS destroyed the 1st part of the battle…but up until that point…he clearly had time to make that ship…and Super Sonic couldn’t even harm it himself…
In fact…The whole point of that game in the 1st place was Eggman trying to rebuild the Death Egg using the master emerald IIRC anyway…
We've agreed that the emeralds can be drained (though only 1 thing has been shown to do it)
The emeralds have been shown being drained far more than just one time…they just have a recharge function that is easy enough to use (just think happy thoughts)…thank you…
Actually…I have to wonder why you think Solaris is weaker than the Chaos Emeralds as well? I mean…he took 3 super form beings to take him down…and he can take rings away from said characters as well (and BTW…Rings do represent the “health” of the super form as well because that is how you restore health in SU with Super Sonic)
You can start up your Speed Booster in Draygon's room. That's not much space. The space in-game is irrelevant anyway because it doesn't tell us the distance of the rooms. I'm not taking much information from in-game. It's undermined.
So…why do you think she only needs two seconds to power it up then if you aren’t taking much info from the game?
Oh and the only reason she can use the speed booster in Draygon’s room is because of exploitation of said monster’s loogie that slows her down to a crawl…but…if you think about it…she still has to run the same amount of time in said direction though…so…I guess it is based more on time like you said…but…I would hardly consider game play time to be a good sample for actual fact…
Too bad no one ever asks about the actual power-ups Samus gets instead of only her suit in game interviews huh? (Of course…what with how said series likes to make real life examples for how Samus’ suit works…but they are extreme examples that just are silly if you think about it enough…you really have to wonder why no one has ever asked them about it)
They were under three seconds.
Which is funny…my wording in case you don’t recall was “closer to 3 seconds”
As in…Not ”3 seconds exact”
And…it is closer to 3 seconds than it is 2 from my testing…but whatever ^_^
It would have been in Metroid Prime. Oh well.
Oh well…