since its hopeless against D3...

[Donkey Bong]

who would you counterpick against a D3 player?
besides MK...
i tried lucario, but according to their boards, D3 is a bad matchup for Luc as well
and also, not diddy hah, i hate how early he dies

 

[Jim Morrison]

No one explained to me why he's so bad. Except for a CG I don't know any advantages over him, so tell me why he's better.

 

[powuh_of_PIE]

It's not just a CG, it's an infinite, and a beastly easy one at that. Grab = death. Other than that DK can't outrange DDD like he can most other characters, and he also can't survive forever against DDD like he usually can.

My Zelda ***** most DDDs I encounter tho, so I think I'm ok. ^ ^

 

[Tujex]

My Marth tends to do pretty well against D3. He's pretty easy tot ip because of his mass size, so I do fairly well against him.

 

[magikguy]

i use marth as well .

 

[crifer]

i thinkfox is good, marth as well

 

[J.L]

kirbyyy, metaknight or falco

 

[Mith_]

Diddy Kong and Olimar should be able to **** D3.

 

[Veggi]

I use G&W, I secondary him, so might as well.

 

[i1337]

^^ i was about to say that lol. some of the best are falco, GW, mk(no u), olimar, kirby, and maybe fox.

 

[Ragnar0k]

I second G&W too, specifically for D3.

 

[OmniOstrich]

According to the D3 guide on their boards
Falco
ICs
MK
Olimar
Pikachu
Zelda
ZSS

Gdubs is actually listed as a 5-5 but its not explained, so it may be different since the guide was last updated.

I personally do D3 dittos

 

[brinboy789]

according to DanGr's chart, IC's eat D3 alive...

 

[GMo]

I main Falco and second DK and I tend to do really well against d3s. I can chain them, they can't me.

Only problem Falco has w/ d3 is killing him, but even that isn't too bad.

 

[nightSN]

i find my lucario does well against ddd.

 

[Ripple]

pick up falco and play defensively, that's what I did which is why I haven't been around much.

 

[Veggi]

To counter a blue bird that chaingrabs and camps, pick up another blue bird who chaingrabs and camps.

 

[Mith_]

To counter a blue bird that chaingrabs and camps, pick up another blue bird who chaingrabs and camps.

Truth.

10cgs

 

[Donkey Bong]

To counter a blue bird that chaingrabs and camps, pick up another blue bird who chaingrabs and camps.

lmao at first i thought you were going to say D3 dittos, which i've heard are a nightmare

 

[itsthebigfoot]

or you could just get the infinite banned in your area

i play dk, bowser, and luigi aand i'm covered on all matchups if the infinite is banned, including dittos, counterpick luigi on their ***.

if it's not banned, **** it, infinite is gayer than mk, let them eat nado

 

[Donkey Bong]

if it's not banned, **** it, infinite is gayer than mk, let them eat nado

hah, once me and my friend just to see how it would go, played MK v D3
he used only nado to build damage and i only was able to take one of his stocks.

 

[Jingo_Joe]

As of now, I consider D3 and ICs the same matchup. Don't get grabbed, both can easily infinite you. However, I have picked up ICs for the sole reason of learning how to infinite D3 instead of the other way around.

I've actually gotten pretty good at it, but I haven't tried it out in an actual fight yet. I just thought it would be funny to infinite a D3 who was planning on infiniting my DK.

 

[Tujex]

I recently picked up the IC's, and yeah...they **** D3

 

[Donkey Bong]

augh the ICs.... i cant play with those little ****s

 

[Pr0phetic]

I personally think if you space correctly, D3 can't **** you to bad. You both have WoP Bairs. They seems about equal in speed, and his FTilt has better range, but is weak.

Try to use your DownB, DTilt, and FTilt. But if you must, Falco, Marth, and Olimar are good alternatives.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

My counterpick is Snake. Needless to say, I don't like playing against D3.

 

[Monkey Wrench]

Pikachu and Olimar.
Dedede dittos are annoying

 

[Xcluzive]

I just sub out with ICeys. or use my mediocre GW

 

[Donkey Bong]

I personally think if you space correctly, D3 can't **** you to bad.

wrong wrong wrooooooooooong... wrong wrong wrong wroooooooong

 

[KoSa!]

Fox or ice climbers.

 

[highandmightyjoe]

As a former DeDeDe main my biggest concern was always Pikachu, but I have been away from him for a while so that view may be outdated. Last I checked though, the DeDeDe boards had Olimar listed as their worst match, and that's who I use. It works pretty well.

 

[MasterCheeze]

If I recall correctly, Pikachu can somewhat CG DeDeDe (a few Fthrows and Dthrows here and there), and it's kinda easy to link your Fairs with tilts and DSmashes since Pika is smooth like that. Thunder's also a ***** against D3.

 

[OmniOstrich]

If I recall correctly, Pikachu can somewhat CG DeDeDe (a few Fthrows and Dthrows here and there), and it's kinda easy to link your Fairs with tilts and DSmashes since Pika is smooth like that. Thunder's also a ***** against D3.

Also, QAC combos are easier to land bc D3 is so big. You basically CG him off the stage and then thunder wall, which forces him to use his upB to recover and he is vulnerable when do this.

 

[Max Ketchum]

...The infinite isn't banned everywhere yet? It really should be. I'm not sure how the match is with no infinites, but seriously, ban that ****...it's been off at every tourney I've ever been to.

 

[Ripple]

...The infinite isn't banned everywhere yet? It really should be. I'm not sure how the match is with no infinites, but seriously, ban that ****...it's been off at every tourney I've ever been to.

yes, it needs to be. but D3 without the infinite is 60-40 him

 

[Max Ketchum]

Well, that's certainly not hopeless. I think Falco and Olimar are good secondaries for DK, btw.

 

[8AngeL8]

Hey, Donkey Bong, let me teach you Falco. He'll eat DDD's alive, plus I won't be the only Falco player around here...

 

[A2ZOMG]

Gdubs is actually listed as a 5-5 but its not explained, so it may be different since the guide was last updated.

It's cuz Hylian thinks DDD is even. I don't believe him. A number of players including a DDD main don't believe him either on this one.

Our matchup thread went over this one. There was a lot of disagreement among players about this matchup.

Personally me, I'm pretty sure the matchup is at least 6/4 in favor of G&W. I mean, he can space B-airs so he can't get shieldgrabbed. Also, he juggles DDD well, always gets to punish DDD when he recovers, and DDD is also huge, and easy to hit with F-airs.

DDD has pretty much only one reliable KO move, and that's U-tilt, and it's very hard for him to hit a good G&W with U-tilt. Meaning he has to rely on SH aerials on stage or other stupid things. Also, Chef camping > Waddle Dee camping. Besides, DDD shouldn't Waddle Dee camp because he risks throwing a Waddle Doo = free Bucket.

 

[itsthebigfoot]

dedede can grab through the turtle, that's why it's even, so no, you can't space bairs to avoid the shield grab

 

[Ripple]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZx64HqiCZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVpXj6Wbxco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0svB5KhdAn0

these are old but the most recent, about a month old. I usually win against him in 3/5 now