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It could also mean *gasp* Ally is as good a player (Or nearly as good) as M2K, and Snake vs. MK is known to be a close matchup.
NO!! Think of every time M2K got beat since he got good. Its a pretty short list. Notice something about all of those times, but this one. He was playing against a non-top tier char. M2K loosing against snake, a matchup he's knows this well is insane. This NEVER happens. nl beat him with diddy because m2k didn't know diddy. mango beats him with puff because he doesn't know puff. but m2k knows snake and still lost. That's crazy.
Uhh... Thanks for reinforcing my claim, I guess... o_O
Yes, Meta Knight should be banned. Proof? All those other times that Ally lost to M2K.
yeah, so why are people freaking over this? M2K lost a close matchup, who knows, Ally could have just been on the ball perfectly.
Support the cause.
I don't know. I find it slightly hilarious how insulting anti-ban got though.
I also like sandbagging to those facts.
Not just Ally, but Reflex, NinjaLink (twice), and now Lain also (dunno about others)... That's 5 people who have taken sets off of M2K... 5 sets are more than 1 set... And if you still say that it's not enough, then wHOBO isn't enough evidence, because it's just 1 tournament. If 5 sets isn't enough, then come back with more than 5 major tourney results in which MK ***** the placings, thankyouverymuch.
I assume you speak of the ICers.
If I was an MK main (or even MK user), I wouldn't care about my main being banned, I'd go for the money! $$$$$ is quite the motivator, I assure you.
It should also be noted that Snake ~= MK.
Yeah, gimme some of that champagne! We've got verification that MK has a hard time with Snake! Now we know that instead of going MK dittos, we'd have as good a chance by using Snake, too!
Still though, the stress on me would be gigantic, and would distract me from the match. Its like an olympic runner who hears that if he wins he'll get shot at the end.If I was an MK main (or even MK user), I wouldn't care about my main being banned, I'd go for the money! $$$$$ is quite the motivator, I assure you.
Except that Snake still has disadvantaged matchups to get to that point, while MK just has a series of at worst 50:50 matches.
A lot of good disadvantageous matchups do at top levels of play, Lain couldn't even take one match from Ally as DDD (all 3). If anything, the disadvantages are much more notable at lower levels of play... The tougher the competition, the harder it is to exploit those weaknesses.
Good point. Still, I think that example is too intense... I'd say "To hell with this race! I won't even have a life to spend the money with!". However, I understand what you mean.
Or M2K figured out how Lain's IC play.
Everyone knows to "not get grabbed" yet miraculously people still do.Rite. Because, you know, going into the match with Lain, M2K didn't know to not get grabbed by IC. He didn't know that MK >>>>> IC's grab range.
So what's being said is Lain < Ally.
It's entirely possible he didn't know the setups that Lain would use to go for the chaingrabs, and the time it took him to figure it out was enough to give Lain the first match.Rite. Because, you know, going into the match with Lain, M2K didn't know to not get grabbed by IC. He didn't know that MK >>>>> IC's grab range.
the rules are not based around anything BUT top level play because that is what really matters. Plus the main argument is overcentralization which is also disproved as 2 mk mains were top 10. Good players can get around the tornado. There really isnt a need to gimp a meta as he is very light, at least no where near as necessary as say, snake since he lives forever. Everyone knows meta has alot of options, that is one thing that makes him the best character, but the best is just that. Every game has a best with great options and such. Hes not broken and especially not banable.
playstyle is what he meant, he fell for lains mindgames into grabs but then learned his playstyle and that led him to his later victory.Rite. Because, you know, going into the match with Lain, M2K didn't know to not get grabbed by IC. He didn't know that MK >>>>> IC's grab range.
yes it does, it shows that bad matchups are much more noticable in lower levels as higher levels it is MUCH more player to player than character to character (a staple in lower levels)
