Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

[Teczer0]

D***.The. Callout.

Dude, damn isn't even a censored word bro.

FoD is actually not as small as you think

Its not extremely small, but relative to other six legal stages it is.

 

[crush]

MacD is actually not as small as you think

 

[MacD]

damn, what a callout

F YOU $100 MM AT APEX LET'S GO *****

and crush, you so silly

 

[Teczer0]

Like, I'm not even calling you bad though >:[

Oh, I don't think I'm goin to Apex

 

[unknown522]

People in general tend to really be unfamiliar with it at least from what I see. A lot of people tend to avoid it during friendlies for whatever reason.

I'd pick FoD potentially over YS. But thats because I hate YS, and I really like that the platforms easily induces decent-good peaches and MacD to dsmash on them thinking I'll just jump into it.

Then ftilt fair =3

hahahahhahahahaha

damn

 

[MacD]

YOU WILL FALL TO THE DSMASH ON THE PLATFORM, I AM THE GREAT MACD AND THAT'S HOW IT WORKS

k thanks

 

[john!]

all competitive melee players exhibit john's law of dsmash: "as you play more matches, the probability of them jumping into your platform dsmash approaches 1"

or alternatively: "given an infinite amount of matches, there exists a match when the opponent will jump into your platform dsmash"

/nerdhumor

 

[Teczer0]

all competitive melee players exhibit john's law of dsmash: "as you play more matches, the probability of them jumping into your platform dsmash approaches 1"

or alternatively: "given an infinite amount of matches, there exists a match when the opponent will jump into your platform dsmash"

/nerdhumor

Hahahaha

I lol'd

 

[KirbyKaze]

I think you can land usmash if they do the sideb

Unless the up smash double hits, up tilt is still better.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

for real? What can you link out of the utilt before 20-30%? I thought you could link much better stuff from usmash

 

[KirbyKaze]

sh fair > f-tilt / jab > more stuff is pretty easy and better than up smash > uair > they're too high to really continue.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Some sets from HOPE 4

Kirbykaze vs Nakamaru - WB (watch me get raptor boosted a hundred times; M2K later helped me in this MU a lot that day)
Kirbykaze vs KrazyKnux - LQFs (KK vs KK?! He's pretty decent, surprisingly decent spacing for a Fox player)
KirbyKaze vs Vudujin - LSFs (was a bo3, which was kind of lame but time constraint johns)
Kirbykaze vs Unknown522 - LFs (bo5, nothing really spectacular but some good drillshine > up smashes on Sheik)

 

[Strong Badam]

KirbyKaze would you like to go out
of the stage to edgeguard

 

[KirbyKaze]

always lol <3

 

[ShroudedOne]

What makes FoD such a big advantage for peach?

Well, in general, she does best when people are unable to run away from her, because her moves/float allow her to control a confined space around her really well. And down smash. The altering platform heights give her more dumb down smashes than she should get, and don't screw with her mobility like they do with other characters.

all competitive melee players exhibit john's law of dsmash: "as you play more matches, the probability of them jumping into your platform dsmash approaches 1"

or alternatively: "given an infinite amount of matches, there exists a match when the opponent will jump into your platform dsmash"

/nerdhumor

I chuckled.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Peach can fly.

/thread

 

[soap]

yo wtf at that grab on naka at 3:37..

 

[KirbyKaze]

Grab > Falcon d-tilt

 

[nicaboy]

YOU WILL FALL TO THE DSMASH ON THE PLATFORM, I AM THE GREAT MACD AND THAT'S HOW IT WORKS

k thanks

Only scrubs fall for that ****

Kk what in the world made you try fox? Regardless good **** man im throughly impressed.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

KK, you won!

:o

Smooth Criminal

 

[Twix]

Only scrubs fall for that ****

Kk what in the world made you try fox? Regardless good **** man im throughly impressed.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Only scrubs fall for that ****

Kk what in the world made you try fox? Regardless good **** man im throughly impressed.

I wanted to work on my secondary a bit and his controller was broken so he couldn't do some of his Sheik stuff. So we played other MUs.

 

[omgwtfToph]

M2K complaining about his controller!?

WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT

 

[V]

For the KDJ gimp, after the short hop needle, do you turn around and wavedash backwards or do you wavedash forward and turn around as you're falling off the ledge?

 

[Teczer0]

Whats the KDJ gimp?

Is there a video of it?

 

[V]

Watch Amsah vs Dr PeePee at Pound V. First stock second match Amsah does it and Wife called it the KDJ gimp.

 

[Teczer0]

Huh, interesting.

I would turn around WD off, the other one is fine too but technically harder.

 

[V]

He does it pretty fast. It doesn't even look like he turns around.

 

[Teczer0]

Yea, but sheik's turn around grab edge is rough I don't think he would risk it in that situation. He definitely just turned and WDed off.

 

[V]

Yeah I noticed its harder with her. I main marth and he has a long quick forward WD so its easier to turn around as you go off. Sheik's is pretty short and abrupt.

I started practicing it and it takes some work but it'll be cool to pull off. I came from brawl so even little things taking work is new but everything is much more rewarding in melee. I hate that game now lol.

 

[Twix]

Welcome to the Dark Side! >:D

 

[omgwtfToph]

Amsah definitely turned around and then wavedashed backwards in that match vs PP lol.

 

[Luma]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsEv2PtSvZQ

1:57

now thats style =P

 

[Kaffei]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsEv2PtSvZQ

1:57

now thats style =P

what the ****
**** LOL

 

[Strong Badam]

i need to change my pants

 

[soap]

propssssssssss

 

[Pi]

samus has her jump, and her grapple, she's recovering low...ish
looks like she's probably going to try and grapple mid low (assuming FD), to really low
what do you do?

how is her recovery on DL? can you cover all the options she has here reliably?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsEv2PtSvZQ

1:57

now thats style =P

That reminds me of a technique i envisioned but could never perform, combining the PC drop with Zhu's fastfall past the edge, double jump bair.

 

[Soloist]

That PC drop bair was very pretty, indeed.

 

[Twix]

How do you execute the PC drop?