Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

[unknown522]

Which foxes?

 

[omgwtfToph]

Was there a fest I missed?

 

[Sinji]

I'm really good in fox dittos but I wanted to learn how to fight fox with shiek. How do you gimp him at low percents?

Do you guys find a difference when fighting mario and dr. mario?
I played my friend on friday and he uses mario and it felt slightly different from dr.mario.

 

[Sweet™]

I'm really good in fox dittos but I wanted to learn how to fight fox with shiek. How do you gimp him at low percents?

Backthrow > Anything that hits him pretty much.
I'm not that good at this game to give specifics for scenarios though.

 

[gm jack]

I'm really good in fox dittos but I wanted to learn how to fight fox with shiek. How do you gimp him at low percents?

Do you guys find a difference when fighting mario and dr. mario?
I played my friend on friday and he uses mario and it felt slightly different from dr.mario.

As soon as you force him to up B below the stage, you should have him dead. Some situations are harder to convert than others, but that should be your aim, at least in friendlies.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I'm really good in fox dittos but I wanted to learn how to fight fox with shiek. How do you gimp him at low percents?

Do you guys find a difference when fighting mario and dr. mario?
I played my friend on friday and he uses mario and it felt slightly different from dr.mario.

If you're close to the edge:

Throw off > run off FF DJ nair
Throw off > SH bair
Throw off > wait

If you're not close to the edge (but they still go off if they DI in)

Throw off > needle
Throw off > run off nair
Throw off > wait

That should get you started.

You can jump and bair more vs a grounded Doc because he doesn't have the giant f-smash. Otherwise, no real difference. Doc hurts a bit more when he hits you.

 

[darkatma]

Which foxes?

zhu and hmw

@ toph: yeah you missed a good smashfest at kenney's with zhu/darrell/hmw/baka

 

[unknown522]

Cool

 

[Sinji]

If you're close to the edge:

Throw off > run off FF DJ nair
Throw off > SH bair
Throw off > wait

If you're not close to the edge (but they still go off if they DI in)

Throw off > needle
Throw off > run off nair
Throw off > wait

That should get you started.

You can jump and bair more vs a grounded Doc because he doesn't have the giant f-smash. Otherwise, no real difference. Doc hurts a bit more when he hits you.

Thanks KK.

 

[Blazeraid]

After landing shffl, which is better: run or wd->run?

 

[darkatma]

whichever way you can get out of there faster

 

[soap]

Really depends what you are trying to follow up with.

Id say I generally dash tho. Less lag.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Depends on what you're trying to do.

 

[V]

Hey Sheik boards, I'm new to Sheik and melee in general (former brawl player). Which characters does sheik team well with?

 

[KirbyKaze]

She's one of the most versatile teams characters so basically anyone

I recommend Peach, Fox, Puff, Falco, and Ganon though

 

[Sinji]

peach

in terms of players shiek works best with a teammate that can appoach while shiek goes for gimps.

 

[Sweet™]

I hear Doc can be a good teammate. Also two Sheik's can be good if used correctly.

Don't hold me to that.

 

[unknown522]

Peach. Definitely peach.

Jiggs too I guess

 

[V]

Sounds like Peach, Fox, and Puff are the way to go. Out of curiosity how do Sheik and Falco work with eachother? I've never seen vids of them together.

 

[unknown522]

Not bad

 

[KirbyKaze]

Falco shoots people trying to edgeguard Sheik

Falco shoots Sheik during recovery to cancel lag

Falco beats up people trying to edgeguard Sheik and then combos into a gimp setup that either he does or Sheik does

They combo with each other and are good at playing tennis together (Sheik has a good vert. kill for vs floaties at the end of a rally)

 

[ChicknMonkey]

While on the subject, Ganon and Sheik?

 

[unknown522]

Omg. Have you never seen KK + kane team?

 

[ShroudedOne]

Why Peach + Sheik?

 

[unknown522]

Omg, so broken

 

[S l o X]

sheik is 3rd best dont understand why your faith would ever dim. ^ ^ **** page late trolled.

KK who are the two best partners for sheik in teams?

 

[unknown522]

I'm gonna guess he'll say fox/peach.

We'll see

Also jiggs/peach IMO

Edit: Aww. I was wrong. He said puff/peach as well

 

[Sinji]

Shiek and peach is sooooo good.

Sheik assist, peach approaches. Peach dsmash ( most likely sends them behind) shiek goes for ez edge guard.

Sheik/ peach has the best aerial team combos.

 

[gm jack]

I really like teaming with foxes. It feels good to have a fast team who can constantly help each other out.

 

[Van.]

lost to two links yesterday.

one even let me go to FD twice.

 

[ChicknMonkey]

Omg. Have you never seen KK + kane team?

link(s) please

 

[Sweet™]

lost to two links yesterday.

one even let me go to FD twice.

Links are so awkward to play.

And then you play them, and you're like. O.O

 

[Van.]

its soooooo easyyyyyyyy

but i'm soooo badddd :,(

real talk-- does anyone have tips for CGing links DI away on dthrow at below 30%? is there a visual cue to look for or something? i'm starting ot think its be b etter to just ftilt and hope you can get something afterwards.

 

[Sweet™]

I believe you can ftilt into a dash grab or dash attack if you predict their DI.
If they don't DI and go straight up, nair or fair him, and get a follow up attack when they hit the ground.
If they DI to the right or left, ftilt again if possible and repeat.

Basically just don't let him hit the ground, and stay on him heavily when you hit him.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Basically just don't let him hit the ground, and stay on him heavily when you hit him.

This is good advice, but I just wanted to add: Watch out for random Up-Bs from Link.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Sweet™]

This is good advice, but I just wanted to add: Watch out for random Up-Bs from Link.

Smooth Criminal

Agreed. If he's up in your face and u-b's (which A LOT of them do), shield it, and shield grab him, and follow what I said.

If he's too far away to be shield grabbed, wavedash OoS and grab if you can. If you can't get the grab, it's best to back off for a bit, because he'll try to space himself as much as possible from you with projectiles and aerials.

EDIT: I've only played a few Links before, but doing all this seemed to work for the most part.
I don't know if Stro's Link is on YouTube. He's a smasher from Pittsburgh area.

 

[silentSWAG]

Stro is legit. Not known tho

 

[Van.]

bula you shouldn't be doing those punishments vs. link. it makes sheik way worse than she is. If there's a chaingrab, we need to learn the chaingrab.

also-- dthrow-ftilt-grab doesn't work vs. DI away

 

[silentSWAG]

That depends on how u space the f tilt

 

[Van.]

okay silentswag how do you space ftilts after downthrowing link at 0%? do you walk?