Project M Social Thread

[curry9186]

Wavebouncing Link is glorious. Just saying.

Out of curiosity, is Kongo Jungle 64 on the list of possible stages for the game? I know KTH released a version, but it's got some glaring problems so I was wondering if you guys were going to wait for a more polished build or just try to improve that one.

 

[Machiavelli.CF]

Ahh yeah its pretty irritating, keeps you guessing. But as it turns out its not fine yet, the first match I played was spot on, WD working etc; yknow all the melee status stuff, but then I started having the same issues. Guess I'm gonna have to do those other things you mentioned. Gahh. No peace yet... but soon. Very soon. Hopefully I can get it working before my GF gets home and starts with the complaining Any clue as to why this would work for only one match? Now that I think about it thats one of the ongoing things also.

Well for me It just kept locking itself In Game because it was so loose, I just had to check every once in a while and unlock it

 

[octolink]

Oh my god, I can't begin to comprehend how many awesome ways Lucas's charged Bnuetral could be worked into things. I LOVE the knockback with no damage when charged. Imagine on teams, doing that while your partner is WD...they'd go so freakin' far and could totally just pop up beside someone and combo them to hell and back.

 

[octolink]

Well for me It just kept locking itself In Game because it was so loose, I just had to check every once in a while and unlock it

I think I'm just going to NOT leave the versus screen at all until I'm done playing, haha. Until I get sick of of the bull-isht and decide to defragment and all that.

 

[UltiMario]

Wavebouncing Link is glorious. Just saying.

Out of curiosity, is Kongo Jungle 64 on the list of possible stages for the game? I know KTH released a version, but it's got some glaring problems so I was wondering if you guys were going to wait for a more polished build or just try to improve that one.

This could've changed recently (like anything else in this freaking thread), but to my knowledge KJ64 is indeed planned for Project M.

 

[Smile]

So anybody else having trouble perfect waving back onto the stage as Falcon/Ganon from the edge?

 

[MK26]

Landing detection.

 

[Shelter From The Storm]

Posting for subscription.

 

[Strong Badam]

Originally Posted by UltiMario
@octolink: Sounds like the .pacs aren't loading, and since you're using the hackless method, I would assume this means you have a 4+ GB SD card, making it unusable for the method.


Never got a reply for this, but I suppose it doesn't necessarily need one. Like I said in my previous posting, I assume I just have to re-download everything? I just was kinda wondering why something like the things I mentioned would've ended up happening. Mostly because I'm the only one having the issues, which is good.... but it makes me assume that I did something to make it screwy. just really not sure how.

try to defragment your SD card. if that fails, reformat it and reinstall PM. if that fails, you need a new SD card.

 

[kirbykid]

This post might get swallowed up in the thread, but here goes anyway.

I want to record the metagame of Project M in great detail from the beginning. The demo has recently been released, and I want to make sure I'm collecting tons of data for at least a year.

I'm a long time Smash veteran. I always wanted someone to record the history of the game for Melee or Brawl. Since those opportunities have passed, I want to make sure it's done right for Project M.

Here's a link to my blog and a 4 part series talking about metagame analysis, record keeping, and notation.

http://critical-gaming.squarespace.com/blog/2011/1/28/metagame-meditations-pt1.html

I consider this a service to the community, and I hope everyone can support my efforts.

 

[kaizo13]

lol it seems like people are never gonna stop wondering why <fill in the blank> doesn't work or why certain things feel off/different

OK go to training mode, Choose Link, set the game to 1/4 speed, do a Neutral Air




.......that's why

 

[Shadic]

I'm a long time Smash veteran. I always wanted someone to record the history of the game for Melee or Brawl. Since those opportunities have passed, I want to make sure it's done right for Project M.
Here's a link to my blog and a 4 part series talking about metagame analysis, record keeping, and notation.
http://critical-gaming.squarespace.com/blog/2011/1/28/metagame-meditations-pt1.html
I consider this a service to the community, and I hope everyone can support my efforts.

Looking forward to it. Can you tell us when you've posted an entry?

Also I read your initial Brawl write-ups - did you ever go back and do more commentary on them? You made quite a few bold claims, and I'm curious to see how many of them held up since 2008.

 

[Vigilante]

DangerLance is having a stream if you want to listen in: I'm posting it for him because he'd love more viewers : justin.tv/tryhardtroupe

 

[kirbykid]

Looking forward to it. Can you tell us when you've posted an entry?

Also I read your initial Brawl write-ups - did you ever go back and do more commentary on them? You made quite a few bold claims, and I'm curious to see how many of them held up since 2008.

I'm designing a system when all Project M players and spectators can easily and simply contribute to the records (twitter, surveys, email, etc). I will have that all set up before Pound 5 starts this weekend. I will update smashboards in several places areas when I make posts.

Yeah. Those were bold claims. I don't do many posts on pure opinions/impressions, but Brawl was an exception. I did go back and analyze both Brawl and Melee quite a lot.

This series looks at Brawl playstyles.
http://critical-gaming.squarespace.com/blog/2010/3/4/brawl-playstyles-skills-pt1.html

This series talks about Brawl and Melee. It's mostly done in video segments. I tried to set the stage and explain just how complex comparing the two games actually is. The whole project had a mixed (but mostly hostile) reception. You can judge for yourself.
http://critical-gaming.squarespace.com/blog/2010/7/16/good-game-episode-1.html


I'm always getting new, clearer ways to explain game design. I'm learning from all my attempts.

Thanks for asking.

 

[MK26]

Looking forward to it. Can you tell us when you've posted an entry?

Also I read your initial Brawl write-ups - did you ever go back and do more commentary on them? You made quite a few bold claims, and I'm curious to see how many of them held up since 2008.

lol, i think he wants a little more help than 'good luck'

kirbykid, if you want the history of project m, you'll probably have to go back to the brawl+ or even pre-brawl+ days to get the full picture
heck, i wouldnt be surprised if you had to go through wii hacking in general to get an adequate intro to the topic

 

[kirbykid]

lol, i think he wants a little more help than 'good luck'

kirbykid, if you want the history of project m, you'll probably have to go back to the brawl+ or even pre-brawl+ days to get the full picture
heck, i wouldnt be surprised if you had to go through wii hacking in general to get an adequate intro to the topic

I'm most interested in the history in terms of the metagame. The Wii hacking development is nice background information. But I want to stick strictly to recording the trends, strategies, and tournament results of a single game. So I figured picking Project M would be the perfect opportunity right now.

 

[MK26]

ah

so i guess you'd start with the first big tourney, which would be the side event at Pound 5
not like tehre's much of a metagame at this point...

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

What MK26 said. The best COA IMO would be to go to Pound V and make sure all matches are recorded(not hard really) and possibly interview the top 8 post tournament bracket.

 

[kirbykid]

What MK26 said. The best COA IMO would be to go to Pound V and make sure all matches are recorded(not hard really) and possibly interview the top 8 post tournament bracket.

ah

so i guess you'd start with the first big tourney, which would be the side event at Pound 5
not like tehre's much of a metagame at this point...

Indeed. I messaged jceaser who I think is one of the guys in charge of pound 5. I won't be there for the event, but maybe... with the power of the internet!!!.... I can watch matches, interview players, and do what I need to do.

 

[ajajayjay]

I have noticed that falcon's rolls and techrolls are immensely slower... was this a brawl change or a project m change? It doesn't seem to fit since he's already so comboable and has a reputation for being so fast.

 

[Shadic]

The distance and frame timings are exactly the same from Melee.

 

[ajajayjay]

by frame timings, do you mean number of invincibility frames, or total number of frames in which you can't do anything?

 

[Kati]

Falcon is fast movement wise, but he has to be slow in some respects. His roll was never amazing.

 

[Strong Badam]

by frame timings, do you mean number of invincibility frames, or total number of frames in which you can't do anything?

Frame Data encompasses both.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

I should go down in history for having won Socal's PM tourney with a broken and very underdeveloped character a few months ago. This is what people will remember me for in fifty years.

 

[ajajayjay]

well, I just watch mew2king (sheik) vs ss (falcon) in PM. Maybe m2k's nonsense chaingrabs are just tricking my mind.

 

[Shadic]

You were watching something that's over six months old. In no way does that represent Project M now.

 

[Master WGS]

Since you guys were so forthcoming and awesome about my Kirby questions, I now have my other friends asking for any sort of brief updates you can give on their respective mains. Any word on changes for Ness and DK? (biggest request for DK seems to be "Give him a down B in the air, at least" )

 

[ajajayjay]

so, falcon's roll / techroll speed have been increased since then? its fine if you don't remember, i'll find a more updated video

 

[GameStation aka C4?!]

Hey guys. I have the hackless version of the demo, and I noticed that the Team versions for Sonic didn't load. How do I fix this?

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

anyone know when zelda's page will be added to smashmods? i am a bit xonfused about how u can use her side B and move fast like magus was in a vid i saw. also i whats up with her up-B being cancel-able? my sd card broke so i cant figure it out for myself so her page being done would be very helpfull

 

[Shadic]

so, falcon's roll / techroll speed have been increased since then? its fine if you don't remember, i'll find a more updated video

Within the last month or so they've been matched to Melee's speeds exactly.

 

[Ripple]

falco's laser is too hard to get like it is in melee. its usually too high. has this been addressed?

also, falco needs a little for aerial control from a dash jump. it seems it doesn't go far enough. either that or his nair hitbox is a little too small

 

[Rikana]

You can definitely get Falco's lasers low, but it won't go as low as it did in Melee. Your answer? Landing detection.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

also, falco needs a little for aerial control from a dash jump. it seems it doesn't go far enough. either that or his nair hitbox is a little too small

His nair hit-box...

IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS MELEE!

Can we put this in the thread title?

 

[ClinkStryphart]

Since you guys were so forthcoming and awesome about my Kirby questions, I now have my other friends asking for any sort of brief updates you can give on their respective mains. Any word on changes for Ness and DK? (biggest request for DK seems to be "Give him a down B in the air, at least" )

lol imo if dk should get a down b in the air I think it should be something useful like maybe throwing a barrel. Idk it just seems like the most obvious choice. I always did find it funny that DK in melee and in Brawl never hand anything for down air B move yet he had a down B (ground) move. idk about you guys but I would strongly be in favor of him getting a barrel to throw at his opononents lol. I know one already exists but would be funny to use as long as its somewhat balanced (iconic dk ftw).

Idk about Ness the only things I think that could benefit him would be possibly maybe his PKT from 64/melee well the distance at least. Other than that I really dunno.

As much as I would like to see those ideas I believe the devs have stuff already planned for them. Probably want to adjust stuff accordingly before doing any other work. But then again as the Iconic thing I stated above maybe shouldn't be put in due to you don't really want to turn away from the target audiance. I trust the devs to do what they do best.

 

[Starscream]

I saw DK rockin his DKC roll in a recent stream. It looked pretty awesome.

 

[Shadic]

We have plans for it.

 

[leelue]

I'm having the same problems with Sonic as C4 up there. can't load the custom team skins, and don't know how to fix.

 

[C_Ferris32]

We have plans for it.

Hype.

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