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Social Peach and other random Discussion (Social Thread)

Alley Cat

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Just picking up smash. My bf got me addicted to it after showing me armada vids, and I was like dayum son I gotta get me some of that
Then after attempting to copy his combos I've come to the realization that

I need a starting point first. :<
 

KirbyKaze

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A few questions:

Do you know how to float at various heights?

Do you know how to dash dance, wavedash, dash cancel, and other common movement techniques?

Do you know how to do the moves you want? By this, I mean: can you perform tilts, smashes, jabs, aerials, dash attack, rolls, sidesteps, short hop, full jump, fast fall, and special moves when you want to?

What is your basic understanding of Peach? Serious question: we want to know how much you know. Nothing is a reasonable answer.




I am asking these because I don't want to jump too far into theory and whatnot. Starting points are fickle things and the more we know about how much you know, the better we can help you.
 

Alley Cat

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A few questions:

Do you know how to float at various heights?
yesss
unless I'm missing something cool that I might not know about, I can confidently say I know how to float and do stuff while floating
Do you know how to dash dance, wavedash, dash cancel, and other common movement techniques?
I can dash dance , but I can't wavedash with peach because I keep floating intead Q_Q
what's dash cancelling? Is that the crouching thing?
Do you know how to do the moves you want? By this, I mean: can you perform tilts, smashes, jabs, aerials, dash attack, rolls, sidesteps, short hop, full jump, fast fall, and special moves when you want to?
Yup I've been playing smash casually for a good amount of time, so I know the basics like movesets and stuff like second nature.
What is your basic understanding of Peach? Serious question: we want to know how much you know. Nothing is a reasonable answer.
I know her down smash is good and I use it a lot. And Armada is a cool dude. That's about it I guess :/

Yeaaah Armada videos will do that to you...
inorite
 

Composeur

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I'm pretty sure she goes commando. I mean, her ftilt is practically a projectile...
 

MacD

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i wonder if i should start sharing my dreams here. sometimes i have those dreams i just feel like i need to share but i feel like WC will just shun me cause they are haters
 

ShroudedOne

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Armada vids make me chuckle sometimes.

Especially a certain Genesis 2 set.
It's actually interesting to note (at least, from what I saw) some of the stupid things that Mango forced Armada to do. It was kinda funny seeing one of the best players in the world roll towards the ledge to get baired by Mango, or being forced onto the ledge, only to get down smashed.

=)
 

Alley Cat

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What can/should I do against samus? Specifially once of those fast samus's that slide around like they're coated in layer of butter.
 

Palpi

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you need to approach with turnips against samus...watch armada vs ihsb...considering he is fastest, and very talented samus. Armada approaches with turnips every single time. (pretty much) Be careful about when you choose to pick turnips though, you don't want to give samus too much breathing room. Make sure not to telegraph your approaches even with turnips. Notice how armada doesn't always throw a turnip ->fc fair or nair, he establishes stage control and applies pressure with turnips then approaches when he feels the samus isn't in a position to punish him for an approach, so he might pull a few before actually committing to an approach.
 

MacD

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Mccain dreams are hilarious, but I dont think he should post them lmao.
well i mean that one dream i told you about with pat yea, but that most recent one was no big deal

i've had less.... graphic (?) dreams that i can post alan. i just make sure to tell you the crazy ones
 

Rosedemon

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As long as im the keeper of your illicit dreams, than im happy.

I'd tell you mine, but they involve people you dont know, so its not as OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG as it should be.
 

Silly Kyle

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Peach doesn't normally have a camel toe, the picture I posted had Peach in a revealing outfit where her cooter was kind of showing. Lol.

I have wicked dreams all the time. I'd love to hear some MacD. =]

Also, Armada's Peach is amazing. He won Genesis 2 because I was there to finally root him on to victory!!
 

Supreme Dirt

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lol of course kyle.

That's exactly why.

Also I love hearing people's dreams, so add that to the people who want to hear.
 

ShroudedOne

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We all have dreams...go ahead and post, MacD.

*brings out notepad and pencil*
 

KirbyKaze

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yesss
unless I'm missing something cool that I might not know about, I can confidently say I know how to float and do stuff while floating

Good. Getting into float instantly and seamlessly is important with her.

I can dash dance , but I can't wavedash with peach because I keep floating intead Q_Q
what's dash cancelling? Is that the crouching thing?

Learn how to wavedash. It is important. Wavedash out of shield protects you from space animal pressure in a lot of cases and allows you to escape or counterattack. Wavedash back down smash helps make Fox's life just a lil' harder if he thinks he can run in whenever he wants and hit you. Wavedash is no longer optional with this character.

Yup I've been playing smash casually for a good amount of time, so I know the basics like movesets and stuff like second nature.

Excellent.

I know her down smash is good and I use it a lot. And Armada is a cool dude. That's about it I guess :/

Alright then.
Okay, finally gonna reply to this.

Peach floats (and FCs) with Fair and other aerials to control space. She's kind of like Puff in that respect. However, unlike Puff, her ground game is actually respectable too. On the ground, her main ground moves are dash attack, and down smash. Grab and jab are also useful.



Defensively, Peach likes to Nair OOS against low range characters, shield grab misspaced or laggy moves (if she's close enough to do so; Nair OOS also works on a lot of this stuff), dash attack through stuff or on lag, WD back down smash on approaches, crouch cancel weak or medium strength moves (especially misspaced aerials), and float back into aerials on approaches. For more information on "which aerial is correct to use when?", consult this.

Note: Crouch cancel down smash is not as good as it used to be, as a result of people being generally better nowadays. But it is still very good.

Note: Sidestep down smash is good if you think the opponent is going to grab. However, it is also easy to get predictable with it and form bad habits with it, so use with caution. The same applies to rolling, down smashing on platforms, etc. Try to think of alternatives when you're stuck in shield and other situations, and try to think of why they should work. More options is always better; expand your repertoire. Don't develop bad habits.



Offensively, your goal is mostly to pressure the opponent into a place where they can't run away from you, and then cut off their escape options. If you haven't noticed already, just about every character is faster than Peach. This means it's difficult to approach directly, because efforts to engage like Fox can just be run from. However, if you press them against the edge of the stage, this becomes less of an issue. At that point, they have to go through you, above you, etc. They're sort of forced to interact with you. And if they still refuse to, you have turnips, good priority, a beastly dash attack, and other goodies to threaten them (or even hit them).



For combos, just watch Armada. But the gist of it is that Uair is good and weak aerial --> strong aerial is also good. Dash attack is ridiculous, and WD to position yourself during tech chases is also a great idea. D-tilt is a great launcher if you can figure out how to space it properly.

For character-specific strategies, consult the first page of VaNz's thread. In fact, this discussion should probably move to that thread anyway just 'cuz it impedes on Alan's being fabulous with grimy strategy talk. :p
 

Rubyiris

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Why would you switch to arguably a more technical character if you have arthritis?

Falco is really ****ing easy on the hands.

Your falco must just be really bad and you're just playing a broken character because you hate losing, and trying to justify it with some arbitrary bull**** /pseudo-intellectual bull****.
 

Rosedemon

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Calling him a troll is an understatement.

Listening to him is a sin in some countries.

Just focus on everything I/MacD posts, and you'll be fine.
 
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