[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!

[majora_787]

In all seriousness, numbers aren't very creative. But when you think of it this way, every title has had something to complain about.

- 64. That's not very creative, and adds to the N64's monopoly on game titles.
- Melee. A lot of people don't know what the word means, and generally isn't a common word.
- Brawl? Well, it's sort of a harsh-sounding word, not the most pleasing title out there.
- Strife? I dunno. Apparently some people just don't like it.

You can't pleas everybody. =P

 

[Alphalink]

Found it! haha yeah you can compare the names there, Strife is strange, but the style looks epic!

 

[Sunnysunny]

I know what "melee" means only because I played far to many RPG's that used the word to classify weapons as a kid. :3

I honestly think strife sounds more violent then brawl, but then again it's probably because i'm use to the word "brawl" by this point. =w=

 

[Shorts]

Strife seems the most hardcore.

When i think of Melee I think of two people getting in a fight with set rules in a specific location. When I think of Brawl I think of angry people in an all out battle with no rule and utter chaos. When I here strife I think of a decsive battle to the death. One of great cost if you lose, but reward if you win. (I picture Ninja's basically)

But who cares. Because it's probably fake. Although it seems very well done. Pretty darn convincing.

 

[Smash Addict]

AtMcats on IGN had a good idea for a new subtitle, and a theory to along with it.

"Strife? If anything it would be Collide. You wanna know why? On the back of the original SSB case it had the word MELEE on it. On the back of the melee case it had the word BRAWL on it. And on the back of the brawl case it says COLLIDE"

I can't speak to the validity of his theory, but I like the name.

 

[Alphalink]

AtMcats on IGN had a good idea for a new subtitle, and a theory to along with it.

"Strife? If anything it would be Collide. You wanna know why? On the back of the original SSB case it had the word MELEE on it. On the back of the melee case it had the word BRAWL on it. And on the back of the brawl case it says COLLIDE"

I can't speak to the validity of his theory, but I like the name.

Collide is even dumber, in any case Collision, and its just not enticing as those short and sweet subtitles...

 

[Sunnysunny]

Super smash bro's collide?
Ehhh that just sounds weird. The act of 2 objects hitting each others. :I Like, I can see what you're getting at with it. The nintendo worlds are colliding to make this one cool game. Maybe collision.

I heard the words: Fray, clash, and riot thrown around though. I think strife sounds the best though. It just sounds powerful ya know?

 

[Spydr Enzo]

I have seen tons and tons of lists of synonyms for "fight" and "melee" and "brawl" that various people have posted and none of them ever had (or at last I never noticed) the word "strife." So if this really was the subtitle of a possible SSB4, it would be a bit surprising to me.

I actually don't mind it much, it sounds pretty cool and the screen looks EPIC and a lot more hardcore than Brawl (which, if it was real, would hopefully be hinting at some more hardcore gameplay). But my top two Smash subtitles have always been "Rumble" and "Clash," mostly because I think Rumble sounds good and I feel it would fit well, and because Clash rhymes with "Smash."

Personally, I prefer Rumble. But if it really was strife, that'd be totally fine by me.

 

[augustoflores]

when i think of strife, i think of Cloud Strife. lol

i still favor Super Smash Bros. Revolution even if it was the working title for Brawl and the project name for the wii.

 

[Sunnysunny]

when i think of strife, i think of Cloud Strife. lol

Baha! Same. Hidden implications that Clouds gonna be the next 3rd party character? :D

Ok thats totally wishful thinking on my part, but damn that'd be cool.

 

[vVv Rapture]

I still stand for Super Smash Bros Forever.

Also, I'd like to point out that if SC comes to Cafe, Samus would be a great candidate, plus she got the shaft in DOA Dimensions.

 

[ToiseOfChoice]

Betting $50 each that:

A) no Smash news at E3 aside from maybe appearing on a future title list ala E3 05, and
B) the game won't be called Super Smash Bros. [fight synonym]

That's $100, any of you kids got guts?

 

[Pieman0920]

The term "melee" generates the feeling of fight with multiple participants, but in particular, doesn't make me think of any specific type of fight.
"Brawl" is cemented in my head as a term for a small, yet wild/hectic fight, mostly associated with a bar room fight.
"Strife" brings up the idea of a longer, less violent, but very bitter or stressful type of conflict. While one can say that all fights, and words for fights, have negative connotations, strife is the one with the most negative meaning, in my mind anyways.

Betting $50 each that:

A) no Smash news at E3 aside from maybe appearing on a future title list ala E3 05, and
B) the game won't be called Super Smash Bros. [fight synonym]

That's $100, any of you kids got guts?

Isn't that kind of silly? If number 2 happens, you break even, but if number 1 happens, you can't collect on number 2 for like another year at the least.

 

[vVv Rapture]

I'm 100% certain that Smash will appear in some form at E3.

 

[Spydr Enzo]

I'm 100% certain that Smash will appear in some form at E3.

100%? Of course, rumors have sure hyped people up, but if it weren't for rumors I never would have even considered the possibility of another Super Smash Bros. appearing in any form at this E3. I wouldn't have expected it until next year or even the year after.

Just don't get your hopes up, I'm trying my best to do the same. Although I fear that within a week of E3, I won't be able to hold on to that promise much longer...

 

[ToiseOfChoice]

Isn't that kind of silly? If number 2 happens, you break even, but if number 1 happens, you can't collect on number 2 for like another year at the least.

Considering most people here won't take any bet, it doesn't really matter. But yes, I could be waiting a year or so for B and could just break even regardless.

I'd gladly lower the stakes if it meant getting some takers though.

 

[vVv Rapture]

100%? Of course, rumors have sure hyped people up, but if it weren't for rumors I never would have even considered the possibility of another Super Smash Bros. appearing in any form at this E3. I wouldn't have expected it until next year or even the year after.

Just don't get your hopes up, I'm trying my best to do the same. Although I fear that within a week of E3, I won't be able to hold on to that promise much longer...

Not getting my hopes up without reason.

 

[Kantrip]

inb4 "link 2 gud reason"

I have only seen rumors thus far. Are there any that are particularly enticing?

 

[vVv Rapture]

Well it's just from the people I've talked to, that's all.

 

[•Col•]

Here's a name for you.... Super Smash Bros. Fisticuffs. :3c

 

[Spydr Enzo]

link 2 gud reason!

Nothing good really. We've basically seen only two things that could pass as enticing... one is "Smash Bros. 4" appearing on a list of rumored E3 unveils at purenintendo.com. Apparently the site has proved quite reliable in the past, although I cannot vouch for this.

The other "enticing" rumor is the screen of the title of SSB4, which says "Super Smash Bros. STRIFE" in green, futuristic looking font if you haven't seen it yet. Anyone could have made it, although I have to admit it does look pretty well done.

Those are the two most interesting things we've heard/seen so far.

 

[Sunnysunny]

Here's a name for you.... Super Smash Bros. Fisticuffs. :3c

Sure, if every character gets either a old timey mustache or top hat.
WE CAN ALL HAVE BULLY SCRAP, WAT WAT!

 

[Big-Cat]

Peach with a Dudley mustache and a top hat.

Make it happen Nintendo!

 

[lordvaati]

how silly.

we all know the best title ever would be Smash Bros. Duel(ESPECIALLY if it comes out for 3DS)

 

[Smash Addict]

Here's a name for you.... Super Smash Bros. Fisticuffs. :3c

I see your fisticuffs, and raise you a donnybrook. Seriously, look it up. An we can keep the mustaches and hats, and have monocles too!

 

[Sonic Poke]

100%? Of course, rumors have sure hyped people up, but if it weren't for rumors I never would have even considered the possibility of another Super Smash Bros. appearing in any form at this E3. I wouldn't have expected it until next year or even the year after.

Just don't get your hopes up, I'm trying my best to do the same. Although I fear that within a week of E3, I won't be able to hold on to that promise much longer...

You're quite right, we should not have much hope in that regard, we have left is hope, that appear on this SSB4 e3 (or SSBS if the rumor is correct) in any way.

 

[Jaklub]

In all seriousness, numbers aren't very creative. But when you think of it this way, every title has had something to complain about.

- 64. That's not very creative, and adds to the N64's monopoly on game titles.
- Melee. A lot of people don't know what the word means, and generally isn't a common word.
- Brawl? Well, it's sort of a harsh-sounding word, not the most pleasing title out there.
- Strife? I dunno. Apparently some people just don't like it.

You can't pleas everybody. =P

64 was fan dubbed, fella. Original went just "SSB" and that's all. Better judge the fans who made that name ;p

Anyway, I think Strife is the best title for new Smash yet. Rumble sounds some kind of cheap to me (and it's the same name as controllers' vibration function), Revolution is too long (and doesn't sound too good too). Smash titles were short and catchy. Melee. Brawl. Revolution simply doesn't fit here.

 

[Shorts]

A) no Smash news at E3 aside from maybe appearing on a future title list ala E3 05, and

I'm pretty sure this is all we're expecting at this point. Although some rumors says we will see a demo I doubt it. I also doubt it will even have a name yet. It will probably be similar to Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance. The KH logo just appeared during a quick list of future titles. But that is enough to excite me.

And as soon as the word gets out I'm sure we will be seeing about 7-15 more newcomers to the thread. So I guess we should all brace ourselves for the OMGZ ahead.

 

[Spydr Enzo]

I'm surprised no one has said anything about the HAL Laboratory Inc. logo appearing in the bottom right corner of the SSB: Strife screen. What are the chances of HAL Labs actually developing another Smash game?

It seems to me like HAL Labs would be the next obvious development team to turn to for this particular project if Sakurai's company turns it down. The company was in charge of development of both SSB64 and Melee, albeit with Sakurai at the lead. But aren't they currently working on another Kirby title? Apparently the game they are working on is supposed to be released sometime this year (latest news as of January), so it is definitely possible that the company is at least planning a new Super Smash Bros.

Honestly, I see HAL Labs as a very logical choice for the games development if Sakurai's company refuses, and with their current status, they could very well be working on it.

 

[Big-Cat]

I can see HAL happening, and there's also the possibility of getting outside help. It'd be interesting if Capcom was co-developing the game because they're the only other developer besides HAL and Sora that Nintendo would look to for making a Smash game.

 

[Spydr Enzo]

I can see HAL happening, and there's also the possibility of getting outside help. It'd be interesting if Capcom was co-developing the game because they're the only other developer besides HAL and Sora that Nintendo would look to for making a Smash game.

Capcom would be interesting, and if that happened than Megaman would be a shoe-in.

But I think HAL would be the first company to turn to considering their experience with the series in the past. And I don't see why they wouldn't want to take part in another Smash Bros. game... they don't seem to be involved with anything else at the moment besides releasing that Kirby game.

 

[lordvaati]

not that surprising-after all Hal Kept on doing Kirby games after Sakurai left, so why wouldn't they do Smash? also, the Kirby project is just a handheld game that let's you control 10 mini Kirbys or something, so I don't it's so big a project that it would stop them from making this.

 

[Big-Cat]

Capcom would be interesting, and if that happened than Megaman would be a shoe-in.

But I think HAL would be the first company to turn to considering their experience with the series in the past. And I don't see why they wouldn't want to take part in another Smash Bros. game... they don't seem to be involved with anything else at the moment besides releasing that Kirby game.

Actually, I think if Capcom was co-developing it, you'd get Ryu and Chun-Li in as well. Those are the only other two Capcom characters I can see getting in after Megaman. Not only that, but they are the only two Capcom characters to appear in every single crossover Capcom's done.

 

[vVv Rapture]

I doubt Capcom would take time to work on Smash, to be honest. If anything, Nintendo would have a collaboration between multiple first party studios, not a first/third party mix. I mean, Brawl wasn't solely made by one developer either. A lot of games don't work that way anymore.

 

[majora_787]

I don't believe anything other than SSB4 will be mentioned as a future game. Nothing more. xD A Demo? I doubt it, but it'd be amazing.

And I also believe SSBS is a p retty cool title. But I doubt its legitness right now. =P

 

[Beninator]

I am sure Nintendo will mention a Smash Bros. 4 (I somewhat dislike the name Strife), and if we are lucky, we may get a teaser trailer.

Mega Man would be a nice addition. Would it be too much to ask for Sly Cooper to be playable?

 

[Spydr Enzo]

I'm pretty sure the most we'll see is just some sort of announcement. I doubt that much progress has been made at this point (if any progress at all). I'm somewhat indifferent on the name strife as well. I wouldn't mind much if it was the subtitle, but it sounds more like a long, emotional and mental struggle rather than a chaotic, violent battle. Also:

SSBS = Super Smash BS.

 

[Flame Hyenard]

Does this mean we'll have 50% chance of tripping and Top-Tier Ganondorf ?

 

[ChronoBound]

I can see HAL happening, and there's also the possibility of getting outside help. It'd be interesting if Capcom was co-developing the game because they're the only other developer besides HAL and Sora that Nintendo would look to for making a Smash game.

Why does everyone keep forgetting that Game Arts developed Brawl?

Game Arts had basically no prior experience in the fighting game genre, and they made Brawl pretty good (maybe not from a competitive stand point, but as a party game and successor to Melee it was great).

However, I wonder why HAL did not develop Brawl to the extent that it developed Melee, especially considering that it was not working on any Wii games at the time, and the Wii itself was only a slight jump from the GameCube.

I think Nintendo and Sakurai might opt for a developer who has experience developing for PS3/360 level games, especially considering that many Japanese developers have struggled this generation. Capcom would not be a bad choice for a developer. Hopefully, they can make Smash 4 more balanced than Brawl was.

Also, I can't believe there are more and more people believing in a Smash 4 unveil at this year's E3. I keep telling you that Sakurai is currently busy with Kid Icarus Uprising. Though I suppose the reason why everyone thinks it will be unveiled is simply because of a new console unveil and the proximity in our current time to E3 (less than two weeks away). Still, I personally think we are a year away from seeing Smash 4. That may be farther away than two weeks, but its still quite close.

 

[vVv Rapture]

Why does everyone keep forgetting that Game Arts developed Brawl?

Game Arts had basically no prior experience in the fighting game genre, and they made Brawl pretty good (maybe not from a competitive stand point, but as a party game and successor to Melee it was great).

Sora, Game Arts, and a few other development teams, as well as specific people from other development teams, made Brawl. Game Arts did not solely make Brawl.

However, I wonder why HAL did not develop Brawl to the extent that it developed Melee, especially considering that it was not working on any Wii games at the time, and the Wii itself was only a slight jump from the GameCube.

Could have been a financial or personal choice. Also, they did supply all of the Melee data for the ad hoc team that made Brawl. It's likely certain HAL members were part of said team, but not the entire development squad.

I think Nintendo and Sakurai might opt for a developer who has experience developing for PS3/360 level games, especially considering that many Japanese developers have struggled this generation. Capcom would not be a bad choice for a developer. Hopefully, they can make Smash 4 more balanced than Brawl was.

I honestly don't see Nintendo going very far in terms of developing Smash unless they decide to change it dramatically, ala Team Ninja with Metroid: Other M.

Also, I can't believe there are more and more people believing in a Smash 4 unveil at this year's E3. I keep telling you that Sakurai is currently busy with Kid Icarus Uprising. Though I suppose the reason why everyone thinks it will be unveiled is simply because of a new console unveil and the proximity in our current time to E3 (less than two weeks away). Still, I personally think we are a year away from seeing Smash 4. That may be farther away than two weeks, but its still quite close.

Maybe because we're pretty sure Sakurai has nothing to do with SSB4, so whatever he is doing now is completely irrelevant?