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He speaks the truth.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
i love pocky's posts they make sense
(unlike posts from other ppl who argue about stuff here)
(unlike posts from other ppl who argue about stuff here)
pockyD
Smash Legend
wait, but
in horse races, and in the situation you just outlined, the "odds" are defined as the chance of winning... so not only does it matter "what the odds are" when determining the chance of victory, the ONLY THING that matters is "what the odds are"
Laijin
Smash Hero
We agree on the same thing thing then.
Its not likely that it will happen, but there is a possibility of it still happening.
pockyD
Smash Legend
i don't recall agreeing
i believe that in a matchup of marth and kirby both played seriously at some hypothetical equally high level and some theoretical perfectly neutral, non-invasive stage (which obviously don't not exist), marth will win 100% of the time, and I believe that at least 1/3rd of the matchups in the game would be the same way
i believe that in a matchup of marth and kirby both played seriously at some hypothetical equally high level and some theoretical perfectly neutral, non-invasive stage (which obviously don't not exist), marth will win 100% of the time, and I believe that at least 1/3rd of the matchups in the game would be the same way
DarkMagicX2
The Worst Ganondorf Ever
Somehow I get the feeling that the only reason Pichu's last is because he hurts himself. Poor Pichu, now forever cursed to dwell on the bottom of the list. :,(
At least it's not Mewtwo anymore.
At least it's not Mewtwo anymore.
demodemo
Smash Ace
:\ personally on a low level (me lol) i find the falcon marth matchup in marths favour
this is mainly because neither of us has adequate matchup experience
it's really gay, marth can literally stand there waiting for you to approach, and i swear all of his moves beat yours
i find openings with grabs, but i havent really used nairs yet. I'll try nairs the next time i play marth but im still inclined to say its in marths favour. i mean its not like every hit falcon gets he gets to 0death marth, marths fair has broken so many of my combos its stupid
maybe i just need to play more though.. also, i havent been really following this thread but can someone explain to me why peach is so high? I expected her to be below falcon and jiggs at least lol
this is mainly because neither of us has adequate matchup experience
it's really gay, marth can literally stand there waiting for you to approach, and i swear all of his moves beat yours
i find openings with grabs, but i havent really used nairs yet. I'll try nairs the next time i play marth but im still inclined to say its in marths favour. i mean its not like every hit falcon gets he gets to 0death marth, marths fair has broken so many of my combos its stupid
maybe i just need to play more though.. also, i havent been really following this thread but can someone explain to me why peach is so high? I expected her to be below falcon and jiggs at least lol
Grunt
Smash Master
it's way worse than that, lol
hahaha, yeah you would've sounded ********, and i agree with mos of what you're saying, u see things differently than i, i see falcon ****** marth on stage and has an overall advantage, that's what i see at high to highest level of play****it, my argument can't fit into that form without sounding ********
anyway, you make it sound like Falcon has control of the matchup and that Marth just has to hope for a mistake to get any openings, when I perceive the matchup as pretty much the exact opposite. Falcon punishes Marth extremely hard whenever he gets an opening, but when Marth decides to play defensively and react to Falcon, it doesn't seem that there is terribly much the Falcon can do until Marth makes a mistake. Also, regardless of height, Marth can molest Falcon off stage. You make it sound like edgeguarding Falcon is difficult, when it really isn't at all.
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
At least Mew2two is no longer considered the worst.
mewtwotwo? wat
Mogwai stole that GIF from me probably he steals all my other good things 
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pockyD
Smash Legend
oh no, people aren't talking about me? better find a way to inject myself into the conversation
Grunt
Smash Master
I like strawberry Pocky the best.
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Gotem City Vigilante
High Tier
Jigglypuff
Captain Falcon
Peach
Ice Climbers
Ganondorf
:bigthumbu
Jigglypuff
Captain Falcon
Peach
Ice Climbers
Ganondorf
:bigthumbu
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
does he steal magical kevinm juice straight from the source?Mogwai stole that GIF from me probably he steals all my other good things
No but you can 
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Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
falcon is good v marth come on mango.... is there even one marth on west coast? LOL
(ken plz washed up old dont play zzz)
(ken plz washed up old dont play zzz)
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
Falcon AND Sheik are pain in arse for Marth. lol
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
You clearly have never played Yugioh.
Binx
Smash Master
I dont understand this quote at all.
JonaDiaper
Smash Champion
thats a scary lookin black dude, he looks mad dangerous with those cards son lololol
Grunt
Smash Master
It's Kaiba's real father.
JonaDiaper
Smash Champion
also who the hell takes pictures while playing yugioh in a library lmao
You mean Seto/Mokuba?
"Kaiba's" father is also a Kaiba.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
If Sheik truly completely ***** Ganon Kirbykaze.. then why aren't you 2-0 me all the time? Oh wait.. ya it was always extremely close 2-1 and the other sheiks get owned. bhahaha!!!
Marth CLEARLY has the advantage vs Ganon? LOLLLLL...
It's probably even, but no one knows how to play the matchup correctly so I end up 3 stocking every marth around. Also I can easily beat Nair.
Marth CLEARLY has the advantage vs Ganon? LOLLLLL...
It's probably even, but no one knows how to play the matchup correctly so I end up 3 stocking every marth around. Also I can easily beat Nair.
Keep it on topic guys.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Ganon's too good of a character to have an impossible matchup but it's definitely Sheik's favour by a significant amount.
It's also definitely easier than Falcon.
>__>
It's also definitely easier than Falcon.
>__>
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
A million percent true. Falcon only has a chance on ******** stages that he can't be tech chased to a thousand.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Significant amount? By what ratio you think now?
next time i'm murdering you with marth in tourney.
I'd say marth vs ganon is 6:4 for marth in general
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I really don't know.
unknown522
Some guy
that happened only once recently, out of 3 sets, didn't it?
most matchups are easy for sheik.
marth v ganon is probably 6.5 - 3.5
sheik v ganon is probably 7 - 3
sheik v falcon is almost as bad as ganon 6.5 - 3.5
decimals don't really matter too much. If you don't like decimals, then round up. (yes, most marth mains are doing it wrong).
/drama
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