Official MBR 2010 NTSC Tier List

[The Good Doctor]

rate the G&W vs. Zelda MU and explain why you feel that way

It's like 9-1 in Zelda's favor!
G&W has no shieldddd.

 

[Strong Badam]

I disagree and refuse to budge from my 9-1 in favor of G&W position.

 

[Varist]

I miss that guy. Much better troll than varist.

that was the most conspicuous namedrop i have ever seen cutie

 

[The Good Doctor]

I disagree and refuse to budge from my 9-1 in favor of G&W position.

 

[ShroudedOne]

I disagree and refuse to budge from my 9-1 in favor of G&W position.

Thank you for existing.

 

[Dark Hart]

Zelda?

Someone say Zelda?

 

[Little England]

The value of having a list based on conjecture and theory which has been shown to not work in practice is precisely zero.

We can sit here and shoot the piss all night about if the short comings of a tournament based list, but that to me still equates to being more worthy than a list based essentially on imagination.

I think basing a tier list off of the merits of the top players of a tournament rather than the merits of the characters is worthless.

 

[ShroudedOne]

I think Peach is better than Fox.

 

[TheGoat]

the more I've thought about it the more arbitrary the tier list is...very similar in this regard to systematics/classification.

It's certainly not that they are meaningless. It's no question falco is better than ganondorf, and its quite obvious crocodiles and lizards are more closely related to each other than they are to spiders.

-felidae is a suborder dude, not a family, what is this bs
-ganon is above doc, and in tier B not C, what is this bs

But humans have a NEED to classify and organize things, yes. It's good because it helps us organize things and understand them better. And the same thing goes for "matchups", one perception of 60:40 is different than another perception. That's my two cents.

In the spirit of arguing and having fun though: **** this jiggs 3rd place bs. below sheik and marth, I say

 

[twizzlerj]

I think Peach is better than Fox.

lol oh you peach is 5th after falco,fox,puff and sheik i say.

 

[ShroudedOne]

No, cause tournament results.

 

[twizzlerj]

if you wanna go with tournament its debatable i would like to see armada's PEACH beat hbox's puff

 

[Avalancer]

Shouldn't Pichu be above Kirby due to the matchup between the two?

 

[Geenareeno]

Shouldn't Pichu be last because he has two taunts and damages himself?

 

[RaphaelRobo]

Kirby has two things going for him that Pichu doesn't:

His Ganon matchup.
His taunt inflicts physical pain.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Pichu is in last where he should be IMO.

 

[Strong Badam]

I always find it interesting that people give 2 ****s about those characters' placing.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

I play Kirby, so I care about it. I want Kirby to be last, so I can say I'm playing the worst character in the game. I can't do that when Pichu's last.

 

[Crooked Crow]

Zelda?

Someone say Zelda?

She's definitely better than Mewtwo.

 

[john!]

pichu is better than bowser

and maybe kirby

 

[Warhawk]

I think Pichu might be better than Kirby but I don't think he's better than Bowser.

 

[Wake]

I think the word "better" is hardly even applicable with characters so incredibly bad. Pichu/Kirby/Bowser... the difference in their effectiveness seems like it's negligible. I dunno how I feel about Yoshi though...

 

[The Star King]

Yoshi is far beyond the level of those other three how dare you mention him in the same breath

 

[Wake]

Hey! That's why I said I wasn't sure about him. Actually, Ness too. However, Bowser, Kirby, and Pichu all seem so bad that it hardly matters which one is actually more effective. At least, that's what I want to think.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I think its Bowser, Kirby, Ness, Pichu but who I am to judge

 

[Warhawk]

I think its Bowser, Kirby, Ness, Pichu but who I am to judge

I think Bowser's the best of those four too but I'm biased because I used to main Bowser. Wake is kind of right though, when comparing between them it doesn't matter too much, its more just who doesn't want their character to be the worst.

 

[choknater]

why do we argue who is the worst rofl

 

[KrIsP!]

Hey! That's why I said I wasn't sure about him. Actually, Ness too. However, Bowser, Kirby, and Pichu all seem so bad that it hardly matters which one is actually more effective. At least, that's what I want to think.

Well gimpy made it out of pools. I do have much respect for Ness and yoshi, they're underrated...they're good, they're just awkward and hard to master.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Well gimpy made it out of pools. I do have much respect for Ness and yoshi, they're underrated...they're good they're just awkward and hard ot master.

I hear people were paid money, and an exchange of sexual favors took place.
Bowser is bad.

 

[Bing]

I'd say its Kirby, Pichu, Bowser, Ness. In order from worst to...not as horrible?

 

[Bones0]

Has a Bowser/Kirby/Pichu ever out-placed Mofo? >_>

 

[Bing]

I just think in general Ness has greater Options in Comparison to the others.
Bowsers Power sort of makes up for his other flaws.
Pichu has a pretty decent Recovery, some sort of consistent comboing ability and is adorable.
And Kirby is Kirby.

 

[john!]

ness is good

and by good i mean not trash (like bowser)

because mofo's ness is really good

and hack's kirby is really good

so that leaves bowser and pichu

 

[Bing]

Honestly I think Pichu is actually somewhat Viable... SOMEWHAT is a very key term. if Pichu didnt die at like... 70%, he'd be higher...(like 2 places XD)

 

[Xyzz]

ness is good

and by good i mean not trash (like bowser)

because mofo's ness is really good

and hack's kirby is really good

so that leaves bowser and pichu

I hear Unknowns Pichu is pretty good, same goes for Gimpyfishs Bowser.
[x] make all four face off in a round robin next time they are at a tournament together (read: when hell freezes over)... not that it would carry much meaning, but I guess it would look funny :D

 

[JPOBS]

unknown would win pretty easy

 

[Bing]

Unknown's Pichu is a ****ing monster... A MONSTER.

 

[KrIsP!]

Ness is too good to be put in the same group with kirby and pichu. I almost think he deserves his own tier like ICs...maybe with bowser. He has some very good options and kill moves it's just sad that he has a KO possible throw with such a tiny, terrible grab. If only he didn't have both bad recovery and a need to use his double jump to aid in combos which just make it worse when it comes to edge guarding. These two things shouldn't be included in one character, who thought PKT was a good idea and then went ahead and gave spacies two pretty good recovery options.

Oh, also he doesn't have great combo strings like those above him..but he's definitely better than pichu IMO. Or am I being biased? No, I think I'm write...

 

[john!]

yeah i think bowser is the worst. i actually used pichu in pools at the last SMYM.* such an underrated character

Spoiler

*i was playing against insane carzy guy

 

[leffen]

Don't forget Roy guys... hes clearly with BowserPichuKirby imo

I think Bowsers the worst in NTSC (by a fair bit) followed by pichu, roy,kirby
In PAL Pichu's the worst and then roy, bowser, gaw, kirby.

If anything Roy+Pichu will ALWAYS do worse because people already know the matchup