Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
so do it
it's a wiki
anyone can edit it
it's a wiki
anyone can edit it
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Official MBR 2010 NTSC Tier List
- Thread starter Slhoka
- Start date
OMFG! This guys has me WEAAAAAAK right now!
ALso someone edit this. It's actually a legit list minus the fact Doc is somehow above Samus and Ganon.
And Jiggs is higher the Marth/Sheik.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Cap'n Falc'n
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Is her MU with falco good enough to say she doesnt get *****?
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
That was my implication, but I was hoping to hear something funny like she kicks him and he dies so its not as bad.
Well with that logic. All you have to do is sneeze on Falco and he loses a stock.
But in all seriousness Mewtwo is about the only character to possible do work against Falco. And it's still a pretty terrible match-up (So I heard).
But in all seriousness Mewtwo is about the only character to possible do work against Falco. And it's still a pretty terrible match-up (So I heard).
Zone
Smash Champion
She handles falco really well. It's just falcon fox and sheik that absolutely force you to hold a at start. Although Marth isn't impossible you might as well hold a for him too
Also if peach knows the matchup I'd rather hold a as well because then it's a campfest
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
hmm interesting. When does she get openings to attack? You would think she would have a hard time dealing with falcos approach and then on top of that be almost unable to shield grab.
unless by handles falco u mean having those easy powershields and the occasional nayrus love to keep falco from lasering her to death.
Yea m2 falco is still pretty bad. Even with super abilities. M2 can def put in some work, but you really have to be good at dealing with lasers vs a top notch falco. U also still will get ****ed if they kno how to soft/reverse bair/nair combo because then ur always in danger of being spiked or baired and then m2 doesnt even live long vs falco.
When ppl get better at SDI, like just SDI normal hits, m2 will probably be too ineffective to even be considered fun.
JMOAN
Smash Apprentice
Hack
Smash Journeyman
Kirby needs to be moved up. He has one impossible matchup - Fox. The other aren't as bad as the Tier List implies. 100-0 vs Marth? No, not close to that, not even in NTSC. He goes even with Falcon, close with Sheik, not too bad vs Marth and when he gets Falcos ability out of a tech chase, it goes from like 85-15 to a slight Kirby advantage (seriously, Falco is FU CKED vs Kirbys double lasers). Sure, his matchups vs Doc, Yoshi, YL and Samus are pretty bad (not terrible though), but otherwise he does well against most characters (advantage vs Ness, Pichu, GaW, Bowser, perhaps Link and DK as well).
People used to believe M2 was worthless until Taj started using him, and then suddenly, he moved up more than a whole tier. Kirby is just underused.
People used to believe M2 was worthless until Taj started using him, and then suddenly, he moved up more than a whole tier. Kirby is just underused.
YL v Kirby is pretty terrible for Kirby.
If Kirby goes even with Falcon then Young Link must be a hard counter.
Falco v Kirby is still bad even if by some miracle Kirby gets Falco's power.
There really is no point to argue for Kirby...
If Kirby goes even with Falcon then Young Link must be a hard counter.
Falco v Kirby is still bad even if by some miracle Kirby gets Falco's power.
There really is no point to argue for Kirby...
Beat!
Smash Master
Hack will soon be recognized as the Taj of Kirby.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Zone
Smash Champion
I'll explain when I'm off work koastar
Hack
Smash Journeyman
Just saying.
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
Yea I'm not so sure about that one for some reason...
I understand the theory behind the match-up...
I guess I've just never played against a Falcon who knew the match-up...
Slhoka
Smash Lord
Laijin
Smash Hero
Kirby goes even with Falcon...
um.
no.
um.
no.
silverbolt1995
Smash Rookie
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The only problems I see with this is that Marth should've stayed at 2nd or 3rd place. Next, Ness should be ranked higher, while Bowser should be ranked below both Kirby and Pichu. DK should rank higher than Pikachu. That's all I can think of.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Marth isn't as good as Sheik, Falco, or Fox.
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Having the number 1 most used character as an impossbile matchup honestly makes your character have 0 tournament viability and thus deserves no higher place on the tier list >_>
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Just sayin'
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Just sayin'
stingers
Smash Obsessed
no such thing as an impossible matchup...no johns
Laijin
Smash Hero
stingers
Smash Obsessed
aren't u literally the guy that thinks young link is better than mewtwo?Livin' in a dream world that doesn't exist
...lmao
Skyson
Smash Ace
Aside from the fact that he is, lol.
x After Dawn x
Smash Master
are you dumb
stingers
Smash Obsessed
k well y'all lemee know when young link takes matches off SS
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
back in the day caveman beat darkrain
Tero.
Smash Champion
- Joined
- Jul 18, 2008
- Messages
- 2,686
YL is leagues above Mewtwo
stingers
Smash Obsessed
back in the day azens link won a tournament...what does that have to do with anything
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
absolutely nothing
because it's just one player beating another player in a hard MU
much in the same way that Taj beating SS in a game in a hard MU is just Taj beating SS in a game in a hard MU
**** sometimes just happens
stingers
Smash Obsessed
nah **** that happened in like 2003 means nothing. winning a game in a hard MU in TODAYS metagame proves the characters not as bad as people say.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Nah, not really.
Especially with low tiers, a lot of wins are attributable to factors outside of the game... the big one being matchup familiarity (or lack thereof).
I assure you, SS does not know the Mewtwo MU nearly as well as Taj knows the Mewtwo-Falcon MU. Inexperience like that, and not knowing how to beat a character, can really suck when the opponent is actually good with them. Like, top level player good.
Especially with low tiers, a lot of wins are attributable to factors outside of the game... the big one being matchup familiarity (or lack thereof).
I assure you, SS does not know the Mewtwo MU nearly as well as Taj knows the Mewtwo-Falcon MU. Inexperience like that, and not knowing how to beat a character, can really suck when the opponent is actually good with them. Like, top level player good.
Laijin
Smash Hero
YL is a lot better than M2.
Its plain fact lol
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Young Link is significantly better vs Puff than Mewtwo is
Since Puff is not only the best character but also belongs in a tier of her own
This makes Young Link better
Since Puff is not only the best character but also belongs in a tier of her own
This makes Young Link better
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
I'm sure KK is willing to share <3
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
^ Yeah. I think Doc should be right under Falcon. And only because of his awful recovery.