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Why?
There's a bigger gap between the UPPER TIERS and the lower ones, not just MK and Snake specifically. Olimar, Falco, Marth... they destroy the lower tiers just as good as Snake and MK, people just use them as examples because they're the easiest to point out (not unlike how most mention Fox in Melee for comparison purposes when Falco or Shiek could work just as well).
...Was fun as hell. Didn't play Brawl but I definitely will next time.
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Xiivi it was flattering that you mentioned me in your post, but I think you are not giving fox enough credit. A lot of the stuff you did point out is true. For instance fox having nearly no approach. You were however horrible wrong on a lot on that match up chart. First off falco is not nearly as impossible as an 8-2, thats utterly ridiculous. Also fox and wario are not even, wario is definitely one of the harder match ups as a lot of fox's set ups simply dont work on wario.
...and fair WoP :]I hope R.O.B. gets a high spot.
His nair is great for all situations.
His bair is great for recoveries, and approaching and shooting back(Great Mindgame
His dair is great for, um, spiking, it also looks cool(Sending ur opponent back in dirt FTW!).
His uair is great for comboing, and it looks funny and cool when it connects.
Spam lazers and gyro till 25-30%, then spam aerials you can't go wrong.
O yeah, Up B is excellent, 1.5 recharge time, excellent combo abilities, great recovery.
ROB FTW!!!
The thing is, what separates those two are the ridicolous innate advantages, while most other have small flaws that are bigger than those two. They are easier to group together that way (MK, blob with sword, lagless disjointed attacks, a stall that makes you invincible as long as you want... Snake, ridicolous hitboxes and camping fest galore with decent aerials too)
Sorry, as much as I love Sonic, weren't three of his four wins ( I think that's how many he's had) in the first month of release? Because if so then you need to read between the lines of tournament results more. Also tournament results aren't everything, on paper Sonic isn't very good. Top of low I'd say.
You've continually quoted that statistic for so long that it's wrong now. He's 25th for the most recent update. Not to mention the difference in point between him and all of the others in the D/E ranks is a very low number of points, to the point which you can't reliably rely on the tournament results for those characters. Their points are far too low to accurately judge them against each other. -_-;;
sorry, i see more than a couple things wrong here, but i'll point out 2, snake is still at the top, and peach is far from bottom tier. other than that its a decent list.
In other words, his list was simply posted as a means by which to compare the Matchup Chart and the theory tier lists. Its based off of hard data.
Wow, you've convinced me somewhat that Fox is somewhat bad, but i'd still say he's mid-low mid. I don't think he's terrible, but you gave some great reasoning too.
I get rather tired of stating things that really should be common knowledge.
no priarity no k1ll moovs no rangee lololol!!11!
I've played who is arguably one of the better Sonics in NJ and he couldn't kill my ZSS until around 175% with any reliability.
At that percentage an uptrhow could've killed you. Seriously.
It's not that hard to not get grabbed by Sonic, and no, an upthrow wouldn't kill on the stage we were playing until upwards of 200% (I love high ceilings!).
Actually it can be a bit difficult if the Sonic user knows what to do.
