I think sonic beats pit.
and to go back to my point about using videos to determine this kind of thing, theres only one high level pit vs sonic set recorded and sonic wins it. despite, imo, the pit player being of a higher calibur than the sonic player.
I never said you use videos purely for determining, you use player knowledge and frequency of matchup occurences, which can be taken into account for Japan. (if that's the subject you're trying to bring back up). Looking at how OFTEN 9B and Masashi or Masashi and Earth fight each other in bracket or how many videos there are of him can lead to a better conclusion than one video.
In any case, Sonic beats Pit? By how much? What does he do that makes it difficult for Pit? These are things you should express with back up.
Which video is it? When watching it, I'd be asking: "How can we analyse it? What did the Sonic do to make it better for him? What did the Pit do right and not just wrong?"
I'm not going to say OMG Sonic wins of course or OMG Pit wins you !@#$% whatchu talkin about, because in all honesty, it looks like a dead even matchup. Both characters suffer from extreme lack of kill potential. The thing Pit has on Sonic is having more than a couple of moves to use to unstale his others, but Sonic has the ground speed and keep-away/pure-punish game to avoid a lot of Pit's ****. I've never seen this matchup played . . . at all. Even sounded fair in the end and I think Espy can agree to it.
lmfao at sonic beating pit.
also ya, im with krys on this. say what MU and WHY you think it's wrong and ill debate it to the best of my ability. although tbh it would help if koolaid and esca joined more in the discussion since they are the 2 most know high level pits (koolaid being the highest level pit who's opinion i would hold in higher regard than my own for the most part) and gave details. but like i said point out what you think is wrong and WHY and ill talk (assuming you can actually talk sensibly)
You do what you want Maharba.
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I will say to all players not just Pits to put your pride aside and look for good discussion, not trouble. I wish Koolaid posted more but alas with a lot of high level players it's hard to get them to take the time to put any effort into discussion, busy with life or don't care either way.
Cept when counter char main says his char has this over pit, you counter argue that pit can do this, and so theorycraft bros begins and you guys fight for days but no one wins. This is why debating for this game is dumb, well the way most people in this thread do it.
Oh golly gee you guys are so smart
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, I hate theory craft and I think Kuro has already expressed his dislike for it too. I'm trying to understand WHY people say what they say, and then go from there. No one should honestly care about winning but care about exchanging knowledge. Winning is for high players like you to worry about in tournament
Pit's dumb, let's talk about Captain Falcon now.
He has Falcon Punch, so he should be at least C tier. I mean, he can kill at like 50%!!!! Wow.
Captain Falcon is such an odd character, I never know if I should even try playing with him sometimes or not, he seems to help people get their consistency down though. He's just...not...reliable.