Official "Ask Cort Stuff... about Stuff" Thread

[Cort]

If by releasing it you mean it just kind of falls from your hand (as if you dropped it with Z) then that seems to happen randomly from getting hit (not just being thrown, and this goes for all items.)

Otherwise, you have to wait until the stun is over to throw or drop anything.

 

[KirbyKaze]

How about you two combine your two threats for minimum response time, and maximum advice ;3

no constructive thinking in the peach boards.

go to the fox boards for that ****.

 

[K1T3]

Thx guys. Figured that's how it was after all my testing, but just wanted to make sure.
Looks like Marth will still be a problem =/
Oh well that's what sheik is for.

 

[milkieee]

unless cort is about 65 years old (omg made me laugh lots xDD)
I want him to rate my peach

well my opponent is kinda .. noob ^^
but it's my latest video and I wanted it to get rated, critiqued and commented so pls.
do it !! ^^

milkman(Peach) vs tim(Samus) - Pokémon Stadium

If anyone knows my older vids. maybe u could comment on my improovement or sth. like that, too !! =D

 

[Almas]

Hey guys, thought I'd come in with a question.

I like to practise Peach in my spare time, although my exposure to players is somewhat low. However, it's still fun.

I've always had problems performing instant-float Nairs. Any other instant float aerial I can pull off just fine, but for some reason I can never get my Nair out. However, I have no problems at all perfoming DJC Nairs.

My question is simple - in which situations is one preferable to the other? Is it vital that I learn how to instant-float Nair, or is DJCing it just as useful? The same kinda applies to Fair, but I can see that being much more important to FC because of the huge landing lag it has.

Ta for your help.

 

[milkieee]

u needa learn it, thats it ^^
DCJing sucks imo, cuz if u CAN FC all the time u won't need DJCing at all ^^
so just goto training-mode pull off a turnip and try to perform an FCed NAir
if u throw away ur turnip u know, that it doesn't work, so u got kinda insurence
(or however to call this ^^)

that's how I did learn FCing and I can do it quite well, altough I'm really weak
if it comes to techskill ^^

the problem u got is just about ur fingers ^^
u know that just hitting the c-stick is not as hard as pressing the A-Button quickly !!

dunno if u already know but u also should fastfall ur FCed Aerials

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

there's no real secret trick to it or anything, just practice

 

[Rain(ame)]

In a pinch...I find DJC Nairs to be more useful than FC nairs. The problem is that I was so discouraged from using the DJC Nairs because "FC is betgter than DJC" However, when you're in a pinch, and you KNOW you can get your DJC off more reliably than your FC, then DJC nair, and then go back to the FC. Anytime I throw away that addict that you don't need DJC if you can FC properly, things go well. (This is in a pinch, btw) It could mean that I need to work more on FC nairs, but you do what works for you.

I'm just saying that both have their place. I also know that you can DJC Nair pretty darn fast if you do it right. That includes regularly AND out of sheild.

On a side note...some people find it easier to use "Z" instead of "A". I personally find "A" to be more convenient, as it's just a sliding motion from one button to the other.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

what is this "pinch" that you speak of

 

[MaNg0]

Cort has a pretty peach

 

[milkieee]

unless this is spam u r completly right !! ^^
juz watched cort vs. zhu RoM and I needa say I'm **** impressed Ô.Ô

btw. gratz for winning RoM Magno !! ^^

 

[DUB]

I'm a new Peach player returning to Melee and I've got one question atm:

I've watched Vidjo/Cort/Shinobi and various other great peaches.

My question is concerning your general movement as a Peach player. I feel my Peach is too generic and consists of only dash dancing and the occasional floating. I watch the peaches named above and they are fast, always floating and moving to consistently space and approach their opponents.

What are some tips for moving like this? This is worded pretty bad I know but what should I be doing to keep my opponent guessing?

 

[Rain(ame)]

Dash dancing is used for making opportunities...usually for a grab. With Peach...if combined with her horrid Wave Dash, it can give the illusion that she's a little faster than she is, xD. Practice your WD out of Dash, and dash dancing right back into it. Slikvik once showed me this. He said to get used to moving like that at all times, because that's about it. Peach can't really move much faster than that, xD. It's true, she's a slow character. Peach should always be moving if at all possible, and also she should have a threat of turnip..when needed. It's so you can be offensive AND defensive at the same time.

I was watching JFox in the crew battle and he was VERY active. There wasn't much of a time when he wasn't moving, which kind of puts your opponent on edge. If you have a turnip in hand it makes them even more wary of you. With a turnip, you can still get a FC aerial off, and then follow up with the turnip. Just remember your options, and practice Peach's movements. She looks fast because the really good Peach players are always moving. DD->WD->DD. Throw a Bair, Nair, or retreating Fair in there as well and then continue.

I'm sure someone will expound a bit more.

 

[JFox]

I suck, don't use my peach as an example, lol. I get ***** by smart patient players

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

wow u guys suck lol

i dont even use peach and i can fc nairs all day.

just practice it more i guess

stop being lazy with ur tech skill

 

[Cort]

I only use occasional dash dances to space, not to try and 'confuse' people. Dashes alone are extremely useful by themselves.

The only time I ever wavedash is out of shield and occasionally onto the ledge. Otherwise Peach's WD is completely useless.

 

[Shakugan]

wow u guys suck lol

i dont even use peach and i can fc nairs all day.

just practice it more i guess

stop being lazy with ur tech skill

Nah bro i can FC nair all day too i love tech skill thats why i practice it the most. Which is why i lose a lot lol.

im not sure if you can practice mindgames i think them just come during battle in my eyes

Shakugan,maybe im a lion

 

[JFox]

peach's tech skill is nothing like fox and falco's. Fox is just fast enought that he can run and you and nair and all of a sudden he's on your shield pillaring. Falco has a laser approach. Peach has no approach besides turnips (and the best way to stop turnip approach is to avoid the turnip rather than shielding it) so its a lot harder to ever even use that FC tech skill making it pretty limited in its application.

Peach is def not a character that you can really go anywhere with by just spamming tech skill.

 

[Brookman]

Peach's fair has the most amazing spacing. How do you plan on avoiding turnips? jumping? And then what do you do when you land onto a nair or dash attack...or up smash or up air or get parasol'd?!

 

[Cort]

I power shield turnips

 

[Brookman]

I think that we can all agree on Peach's greatest weaknesses being her speed and her less than reliable killing moves (what...forward throw and forward air or something? Down smash on fast fallers... =/ )

 

[Cort]

New topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvkicagnPOI

4:35 - 4:54

 

[Teczer0]

New topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvkicagnPOI

4:35 - 4:54

That was just ****

 

[JFox]

Cort! I noticed you did this, and I was like OMG **** we should name that little thing you did there. Full hop nair to meet fox when he goes to full hop, and if they get baited by the full hop nair, you retreat it with a djc bair/nair/fair. We should call it DJ yo-yo'ing peach's aerials, cuz thats what it kinda looked like there.

I do a similar something similar with bair, but i like that one cuz you are facing forward and can continue to chase your opponent. I do full hop bair, fc bair, and than end it with a DJC bair. I like bair because nair lasts a little too long for you to get in that fc without first using the double jump. But having your back turned toward the opponent somewhat limits your mobility, so using the nair is actually the better option to choose situationally.

Glad you pointed this out cort.


@Brookman- dash away from the turnip, than dash back in. Once the turnip is gone you simply pressure peach so she cant keep pulling turnips. Turnips have pretty limited application vs the faster part of the cast.

 

[Cort]

I like the name "Corting" or "Cortling"

 

[JFox]

i like "the cort yoyo"

kinda like the pc as the pc edgehog

you'd have the cort yoyo.

 

[Teczer0]

I like the name "Corting" or "Cortling"

LOL

I have to try Corting =D

Its sooo hilarious, although it did seem to push Zhu back a lot when you used it LOL.

 

[Brookman]

zhu grabbed your shield SOOO much holy ****. It's just him grabbing your shield or nairing you as you jump out X_X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Ajl7hF7yI

 

[JFox]

im not sure why you decided to post that vid, but wow wife's upsmashes are amazing. im gonna have to remember to steal that from him, those were just too good.

 

[milkieee]

im not sure why you decided to post that vid, but wow wife's upsmashes are amazing. im gonna have to remember to steal that from him, those were just too good.

.
(especially the first one)

€:\\
btw. Corting/Cortling/Cortwhatevering seems to be some kinda really sure method of moving through poké stadium !!
<3ed it, when I saw it first time, impressive set Cort !!

 

[Shakugan]

New topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvkicagnPOI

4:35 - 4:54

Is that a strat vs fox or can it be used to fight other characters?

Shakugan, maybe im a lion

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

lol I have no idea why that worked... mind games
corting is 2 good

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Wait we get to ask Cort stuff right?

So Cort what did you do for your 64th birthday?

 

[Kouryuu]

I'm pretty sure I've seen Cort do that in many matches vs campy Foxes in the past. I don't know why no one ever noticed it before lol.

Anyway, the "Cort Yoyo" sounds dumb imo. "Corting" sounds better but I've always called it "the Cort."

"PULL A CORT!"

 

[JFox]

Is that a strat vs fox or can it be used to fight other characters?

Shakugan, maybe im a lion

lol I have no idea why that worked... mind games
corting is 2 good

Corting works on people who tend to full jump out of shield or in any pressure situations. I would use it vs fox the most, and often vs falcon. Maybe peach dittos??? I'm not a fan of doing it much on sheik...I wouldn't recommend using it vs anyone else.

Again the reason this works is because when pressured, people (foxes especially) will try to jump up oos or out of danger in general, usually to a platform to run away. This works especially well when the opponent is near the ledge because they dont have any room left to run backward.

 

[slikvik]

so doing an aerial after a floatcancelled aerial is called corting...lol

 

[Pink Shinobi]

Dear Cort,

I played Forward and got destroyed by his Falco. Have you played Forward, and what would you do against him? Thank you. Also...you beat Zhu who I can't seem to beat. Any tips versus their styles as Peach?

P. Shinobi

 

[Cort]

I've only ever played Forward's Sheik and it's very good vs Peach (aka extremely patient and relies on spacing/grab combos at low % and just general smart play at higher %s) which kinda goes against how I attempt to play vs Sheik. (CC everything at low %s and rely entirely on spacing for mid % game, which Sheik is much better at. Oh and edge guarding Sheik is the most important part about playing her, you want to be very aggressive by taking the ledge and know the timing of when to roll on/normal get up on or jump on depending on where the Sheik up b's to).

Zhu is very good vs Peach, but he doesn't have usmashes that are.. subtle? enough. I really just relied on him messing up his usmashes and occasional l-cancels and punish him as best I can. He does laser a decent amount so I have to generally be near him at all times (I usually full jump nair above him and float back and stuff if it misses, hoping he'll eventually jump into it. He actually does a lot in our set.)

I think I posted a lot more about the Fox vs Peach matchup somewhere else in this thread.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=3048046&postcount=12
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=3218869&postcount=600

You have to get good at smash DIing uairs, Zhu never does uthrow -> bair which is much more effective vs players that smash DI uairs (I actually had a pretty good success rate vs his uairs in our set)

Slik, you have to do it 6 times in a row and kill them with it.

 

[TyrantWolf]

yayyyyy


Cort is alive again and posting more of his secrets!


Dear Cort, have you seen the Tristate PR? Have you played them? Guys like HBK, Reno, Scar and so on. What do you think of them? After RoM are you considering being more active in smash tournaments and entering singles and stuff?

 

[Cort]

I'm starting to hate singles because of how rusty I feel playing + spending too much time using Peach in tournies. I feel like I'm gonna lose to any random Marth because of how much better the 'average' player has gotten in the time I took off from playing Melee. I really wanna visit PC every weekend and play for hours and get us both back up to par and feel really confident again and stuff.

I haven't seen the tristate PR, but I have played the players you listed.

HBK is starting to become an amazing player (or maybe his tipper rate is just amazing, I'm not sure yet).

Scar plays Captain Falcon. <3

Reno loses to Prince of Fire.

That's about all I have to say.