Official "Ask Cort Stuff... about Stuff" Thread

[Tero.]

*subscribes*

 

[kirbstir]

I waveland into a grab or dsmash. m2k is gay

Hear hear, except if your opponent expects it you'll get shined blind

Let's all discuss the best uses of uptilt

 

[Morrigan]

invi. frames

 

[Cia]

Hear hear, except if your opponent expects it you'll get shined blind

Let's all discuss the best uses of uptilt

keeping Utilt a secret is the best way to use it

 

[Samochan]

Countering aerial approaches with inv. frames when upsmash is too slow and in comboes somewhat. ^^ Reverse uptilting hits deceptively far and hits trough stuff.

But it's best kept as a secret tech. ;o

 

[soap]

rofl cogsmooch that sig is hilarious, that was after that one dude got deebo'd by ken, i forget who ken has been takin too many names on that show

 

[brdy_]

I wonder if Jfox got M2K's number.

Also I agree with both of them... if I notice the opponent missing a lot of techs I may use uair, though nairing across would be my choice 99% of the time.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

rofl cogsmooch that sig is hilarious, that was after that one dude got deebo'd by ken, i forget who ken has been takin too many names on that show

that was after ken countered marcus' up-b recovery at tribal council. ken has been ****** **** up thursdays on CBS.

also I hear your sheik is good, remind me to never play you.

 

[TheGeneral]

Hey, can anyone give me some help on the match-up vs. Jiggs? I didn't see a link to the match-up on the first page.

All I do right now is camp in shield and wait for something laggy and try to nair out of shield. I also dash attack a lot

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Do I downsmash enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o04vnfI5teM&feature=related

 

[Cort]

You have to spam the frick out of turnips vs good Jiggs to be able to do anything/approach. Nairs out of shield rarely present themselves unless the Jiggs mis-spaces/isn't constantly bair spacing like a good Jiggs.

Dash attacks aren't usually a good idea because the second you miss one and hit a shield, they can rest out of shield. I guess it's okay at %s less than like, 15, though.

The rest is a slow tedious grind to getting jiggs to 90% and slapping/nairing her.

and I'm sorry Cog, I don't give advice to hispanic Peaches. They're a complete different character that I don't play/despise.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Yeah but look what happens when I pick white http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bS8mopYUM&feature=channel_page
(you don't need to comment on this one it's dumb)

 

[Samochan]

I think all the matches of pc chris's peach vs mango's jiggs are really good, for both viewing pleasure and educational purposes.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

DONT dash attack a crouching jiggs. for god's sake.

 

[TheGeneral]

This match-up info is making me sad.

So, would the best turnip spamming approach be to dcj throw them. Like jump away, then towards + a. Or away, away + c-stick towards?

I assume standing still and camp spamming is not what you meant, Cort, but maybe not. I will try to record tomorrow and show you more specifically what I am doing. In the mean time, I'll be studying this vid of yours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12L_jAtp1Z0&feature=related.

I may end up just having to go with marth or fox in this match-up though... we'll see.

edit: Oh, wow, those PC videos are pretty good material, Samochan. Thanks.

 

[LieutenantSerg]

DONT dash attack a crouching jiggs. for god's sake.

lol didnt you get banned?

 

[Kouryuu]

This match-up info is making me sad.

So, would the best turnip spamming approach be to dcj throw them. Like jump away, then towards + a. Or away, away + c-stick towards?

I assume standing still and camp spamming is not what you meant, Cort, but maybe not. I will try to record tomorrow and show you more specifically what I am doing. In the mean time, I'll be studying this vid of yours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12L_jAtp1Z0&feature=related.

I may end up just having to go with marth or fox in this match-up though... we'll see.

edit: Oh, wow, those PC videos are pretty good material, Samochan. Thanks.

I don't play against much Jiggs except for like Mango's once in a while so let me try to help you out with what I can. Consider this an add on to Cort's advice on the match up.

Your best turnip approach would be turnip -> FC Nair. In fact, Nairs should be your main aerial approach vs Jiggs. Try not to approach with Fairs too much because the Jiggs can Fair you out of your attack. The start up of Peach's Fair is a bit slow. Nairs work best.

FC Bairs also work well for zoning in.

Every chance you get to pull a turnip, DO IT! Turnips are your main way of getting in.

Shield a lot in this match. Run up shield is a good idea. If the opportunity presents itself, FC Bair/Nair out of shield. If the Jiggs is spacing well and the opportunity doesn't present itself, then WD back out of shield or roll away.

Dash attacks are usually a bad idea in this match up because you can get rested out of shield BUT the Jiggs is vulnerable to them when she is in the air. Keep that in mind.

Fsmashes are somewhat useful as well, and the jiggs is vulnerable to them when she is approaching from above/the air. Another thing to keep in mind.

Don't spam Dsmash too much. Dsmashes work best after you FC into their shield. But otherwise, use them carefully.

And finally, when you are at low percents, watch out for an Utilt or an Uair. They lead to easy rest combos which is really GAY lol.

Well, that's all that really comes to mind at the moment. Hope it helped. Oh! and here is a good match between Mango's Puff and PC's Peach at Pound 3. You'll learn a great deal from this match ^_^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdT8Hh8fApA

 

[TheGeneral]

I don't play against much Jiggs except for like Mango's once in a while so let me try to help you out with what I can. Consider this an add on to Cort's advice on the match up.

Your best turnip approach would be turnip -> FC Nair. In fact, Nairs should be your main aerial approach vs Jiggs. Try not to approach with Fairs too much because the Jiggs can Fair you out of your attack. The start up of Peach's Fair is a bit slow. Nairs work best.

FC Bairs also work well for zoning in.

Every chance you get to pull a turnip, DO IT! Turnips are your main way of getting in.

Shield a lot in this match. Run up shield is a good idea. If the opportunity presents itself, FC Bair/Nair out of shield. If the Jiggs is spacing well and the opportunity doesn't present itself, then WD back out of shield or roll away.

Dash attacks are usually a bad idea in this match up because you can get rested out of shield BUT the Jiggs is vulnerable to them when she is in the air. Keep that in mind.

Fsmashes are somewhat useful as well, and the jiggs is vulnerable to them when she is approaching from above/the air. Another thing to keep in mind.

Don't spam Dsmash too much. Dsmashes work best after you FC into their shield. But otherwise, use them carefully.

And finally, when you are at low percents, watch out for an Utilt or an Uair. They lead to easy rest combos which is really GAY lol.

Well, that's all that really comes to mind at the moment. Hope it helped. Oh! and here is a good match between Mango's Puff and PC's Peach at Pound 3. You'll learn a great deal from this match ^_^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdT8Hh8fApA

Thanks a lot, man. I will definitely work on my float/ turnip approaches.

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

cort do you still play this game actively? and whos your best competition lately?

 

[Cort]

I donno, I usually just play when other people want to.

 

[Kouryuu]

Do you still attend tournaments?

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

Cort, what do you think of PinkShinobi's Peach? =D

 

[Cia]

COOOOOOOORT!! Are you, or are you not, aware that the bird is the word.

 

[Cort]

Cort, what do you think of PinkShinobi's Peach? =D

Who?

COOOOOOOORT!! Are you, or are you not, aware that the bird is the word.

I study in the practice of Birdism.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Norcal player right? His vids are pretty good.

 

[soap]

Who?

what a cool guy

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

yeah dude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Jl6k_f_UM

 

[Cort]

I donno, he's pretty good by the looks of things. Kind of reminds me of me cept he doesn't approach at all lol.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Any hints on landing D Tilt, other then the obvious punishing lag, cooldown etc.?

 

[Cia]

Cort, why did you leave today?? i wanted you to teach me Peach

 

[Cort]

My ride was leaving early

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Actually yeah check out pinkshinobi's set with mango on the youtube.

 

[_Keno_]

Hey Cort, is double-jumping then down-smashing useful out of shields? If so, when would it be usable? If not...why?

 

[Kouryuu]

Just wavedash out of shield and then Dsmash.

 

[_Keno_]

Even if I did that (which is almost the same but not quite), that doesn't answer my question at all...

 

[JFox]

Actually, DJ dsmash is much faster and effective in certain situations than WD out of shield. Many high level players actually watch to see you put up your shield when they are pressuring you, and just shielding and than instantly cancelling the shield is a nice little trick. Also, when you are on a platform, people usually wait for peach to dsmash. If you put up a shield, than instantly dsmash out of it, they will jump right into the dsmash, cuz they think its safe since your shielding.

In general, DJ cancelling your shield is the fastest way out of shield. I've been working on implementing it into my game for a while. Its one of those things everyone has known about for years, but everyone is just too lazy to use.

 

[dustdaze]

hey sorry to ask probably a bad question but when i'm facing my friend who plays a great zelda, he always seems to knock me back so far when i shield his powerful short hop lightening kick

this makes it difficult to shield grab and such

any good tips for fighting zelda?

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

yeah. try... um... who plays zelda?

throw turnips?

 

[Cia]

Zelda's Fairs/ Bairs are her spacing tools. even though she's a terrible character, those aerials keep her safe from sheild grabbing.

Peach >> Zelda. Gain the height advangtage and fight her like she's jigglypuff. Float Dairs > Nair/ Uair, standard turnip approaches. Fthrow off stage at every chance. punish her silly recovery with charged Usmashes @ high Percents or just Nair so that she doesn't touch the ground. (Why do I know the Zelda match up?? LOL)

 

[Winston]

Actually, DJ dsmash is much faster and effective in certain situations than WD out of shield. Many high level players actually watch to see you put up your shield when they are pressuring you, and just shielding and than instantly cancelling the shield is a nice little trick. Also, when you are on a platform, people usually wait for peach to dsmash. If you put up a shield, than instantly dsmash out of it, they will jump right into the dsmash, cuz they think its safe since your shielding.

In general, DJ cancelling your shield is the fastest way out of shield. I've been working on implementing it into my game for a while. Its one of those things everyone has known about for years, but everyone is just too lazy to use.

To DJ cancel do you just hit jump twice quickly? Or is there timing?

Also, how fast is it?