Kaiber Kop
Smash Master
Giving work back my Saturdays. This inactive garbage for tournies in our area is lame.
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NJ/NY Rankings: New Rankings 9/25/12!!!
- Thread starter Keitaro
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ksizl4life
Smash Hero
The official BBR brawl MU chart
LOOOOL who the hell is back there?
LOOOOL who the hell is back there?
Vinnie
Smash Master
VideoKidHEERO
Smash Champion
Lol ****ing Vinnie!!
I was just waiting for him to say something Zelda-related xD
I was just waiting for him to say something Zelda-related xD
Kaiber Kop
Smash Master
Unless this is a private joke, I'd also like to know who these idiots are. Sonic does better against Snake than MK and Diddy???The official BBR brawl MU chart
LOOOOL who the hell is back there?
WedginatorX
Smash Champion
Those "idiots" are partially espy.
Although I do agree that that chart is poorly made in the sonic area because all sorts of other mains either under or overestimate sonic, and they have a say in the chart too.
Although I do agree that that chart is poorly made in the sonic area because all sorts of other mains either under or overestimate sonic, and they have a say in the chart too.
Kaiber Kop
Smash Master
Why is idiots in quotes in your comment to me? It's not needed considering the evidence for my claim is right in that chart. Sonic was one example of many.
Aposl
Smash Ace
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http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=298517
Not sure if you guys have anything planned for this date, but IF ou dont, come to this! plz! Thx!
Not sure if you guys have anything planned for this date, but IF ou dont, come to this! plz! Thx!
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
This is the same date as HG's bimonthly >_> I won't be able to come since I'm helping HG cohost but good luck with this! For the future you can check the calender to see what tournies are scheduled for Saturdays since they have to be on the calendar nowadays.
Inferno3044
Smash Master
LOL at the Mario numbers. MK is as hard as Wolf and PT? I'm wondering who the idiots who made this chart are.
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
That list the BBR made is going to be very hard for players to actually accept. People will denounce it as doodoo once they see a couple things off from their opinion of how it should be.
Most of it seems fine but a good margin of it seems off.
Most of it seems fine but a good margin of it seems off.
_Yes!_
Smash Hero
That list is bad. Wolf vs Yoshi is only +1 for Wolf 
TheTantalus
Smash Hero
I'm not responsible for that trash
I've been telling people for months now that the public is going to laugh at it because it is atrocious
and here we are
I've been telling people for months now that the public is going to laugh at it because it is atrocious
and here we are
ShippoFoxFire
Smash Lord
Actually if I believe correctly, all the character's backrooms had a major part in this.
Blame them.
Blame them.
@TKbreezy
Follow me on Twitter!
The character backrooms...half of them consist of people who don't even know their own characters
Angel.M <3 C:
Smash Champion
WedginatorX
Smash Champion
All the characters' backrooms?
I don't even think my main has a ****ing backroom, it's just espy.
I don't even think my main has a ****ing backroom, it's just espy.
KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
A lot of us are busy. I'm on the panel for Mario/Link and all of us are pretty inactive at the moment thanks to school, well that's my biggest issue at the moment. I'm sort of focused on graduating this semester. lol
Kaiber Kop
Smash Master
Quite possibly my favorite post.^
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
This is probably true.
I don't remember anyone asking the Falco backroom what we thought of Falco's matchups. I know Falco's matchups have been discussed in the public Falco character thread section but not in the backroom so I don't think the character backrooms helped for this.
V1CE
Smash Champion
the backroom isnt what it used to be...
ShippoFoxFire
Smash Lord
Our character backroom has had public discussion using this -4 -> +4 format
I assumed that every character backroom did that.
Of course our backroom consists of people who think our character is worthless in everyway possible and/or inactive people. Of course there are like the 3-4 people in the backroom who actually like...do ****.
@TKbreezy
Follow me on Twitter!
well see thats a problem...because you will have those people that will be like "my character is so F**king great" and skew all the matchups to be more positive then they are
and then you have people who are like "my character is a**" and skew all the matchups to be more negative then they are....thats why matchup **** is stupid at times.
and then you have people who are like "my character is a**" and skew all the matchups to be more negative then they are....thats why matchup **** is stupid at times.
ShippoFoxFire
Smash Lord
I don't think Lucario v MK is a -2, I think it's -1.
Though if we have numbers like this then we can make a tier list exactly how street fighter does. Add the matchup numbers and put them in order.
I'm actually doing that as we speak, it's hilarious the difference between snake and MK.
KageMurphy
Smash Master
Clearly you would know...
Seagull Joe
Smash Legend
Espy (Sonic) and Mr. Doom (Ike) are two of the three reps who helped the Wolf matchup spread lmao. Though the matchuups are quite good other then a few abnormalities like Yoshi, Rob, and Pit not being even or advantage and D3 not being -3.
AllyKnight
Banned via Administration
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL foolz
_Yes!_
Smash Hero
He changed his name from Knightmare awhile back dude.
Shut the **** up.
KageMurphy
Smash Master
You're my Zucco now -glare-
Kaiber Kop
Smash Master
Yeah, but as far as I know he still hasn't been in the BBR.
Zucco
Smash Master
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Its at least -2 dude.
Max Ketchum
Collegiate Starleague Smash Director
Some defense on my part regarding the BBR matchup chart:
I only had input on the Meta Knight and Falco panels. Things I fought for (or at the very least submitted my opinions for) included Peach as a +3, Lucario as a +1, ZSS as a +2, and Lucas as a +3 (for MK) and G&W as a +1, Lucario as a +1, Kirby as a +1, Lucas as a +2, and Yoshi as a +3 (for Falco).
There were a few discrepancies left over at the end because certain panels could not reach a compromise. Marc appointed certain "final panelists" to settle them, and they effectively got to put whatever numbers they wanted down without input from the rest of their character's panel.
I will refrain from commenting specifically on the quality of the choices made for some panels; however, I will say that some panels were much more fortunate than others.
I only had input on the Meta Knight and Falco panels. Things I fought for (or at the very least submitted my opinions for) included Peach as a +3, Lucario as a +1, ZSS as a +2, and Lucas as a +3 (for MK) and G&W as a +1, Lucario as a +1, Kirby as a +1, Lucas as a +2, and Yoshi as a +3 (for Falco).
There were a few discrepancies left over at the end because certain panels could not reach a compromise. Marc appointed certain "final panelists" to settle them, and they effectively got to put whatever numbers they wanted down without input from the rest of their character's panel.
I will refrain from commenting specifically on the quality of the choices made for some panels; however, I will say that some panels were much more fortunate than others.
pwiito
Banned via Warnings
mk vs lucario is -1.5
Inferno3044
Smash Master
I know the Mario boards were not told of this. Who the hell put Wolf and PT as -2?
Also jw, would 55:45 advantage be put in 0 or +1?
Also jw, would 55:45 advantage be put in 0 or +1?
GDX
Smash Hero
Ey keitaro where is ktar tourney usually held?
And does anyone know where no koast usually is?
Edit: and to be a cool kid and talk about bbr matchups diddy mk is not even lol
And does anyone know where no koast usually is?
Edit: and to be a cool kid and talk about bbr matchups diddy mk is not even lol
ShippoFoxFire
Smash Lord
This was probably the hardest one to compromise, ranging from -1 to +1 from what I've seen/heard/discussed
I think it's slight in cario's favor, but too slight to ACTUALLY become a +1 for him.
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
KTARs are usually held in central jersey in the town South River. I should be holding one in June.
No Koasts are in the MW I believe.. Not sure exactly what state though. It does start with an M.
GDX
Smash Hero
Ah ok. Just wondering...wanted to go to one of the two since they apart of the whole road to apex thing.
Edit: more than likely yours since jersey is usually mad cheap to fly to