Nintendo 3DS

[GwJ]

Lol Colosseum didn't suck.

 

[kinghippo99]

Colosseum was terrible. Worst Pokemon game I've played ever. D:

 

[GwJ]

HEEYAAAAAAAAAH?

Why?

 

[Sariku]

Colosseum was bad because of what they forced you to do in it. Purifying Pokemon is a cool concept but it had a terrible execution. The game was interesting because it was the first of it's kind, and it didn't do too bad a job at what it set out for, but it was still a bad game to me. There is a reason I didn't rebuy it nor it's sequel. ^_^

 

[GwJ]

Eh, to each his own.

I personally loved everything about the game. My favorite part was walking into my partner to make it look like I was bullying her.

 

[*Tyson*]

I would absolutely cry if they remade Mario RPG on 3DS. That would be beyond amazing

 

[GwJ]

Too bad it'll never happen.

Damn you Squeenix. Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

 

[Wave⁂]

Crazier things have happened. Like Ace Attorney / Layton.

 

[*Tyson*]

Crazier things have happened. Like Ace Attorney / Layton.

Tis true, one can hope and wish on just about anything. You really do never know.

 

[Sariku]

Crazier things have happened. Like Ace Attorney / Layton.

The first Mario and Sonic, Mortal Kombat VS. DC Universe, FF13 on 360, and Tekken X Street Fighter/Street Fighter X Tekken are probably better examples of a crazy thing, but your point still stands with extreme credibility. ^_^

Eh, to each his own.

I personally loved everything about the game. My favorite part was walking into my partner to make it look like I was bullying her.

You know, if this wasa your favorite part about the game, you're essentially proving my point...

 

[Mic_128]

I don't get why people think that Grey's going to be on the 3DS. I'd expect them to do something where if played on the 3DS it might have a few little tweaks (the way some games have extra stuff if played on the DSi vs DS Lite/Phat) but still primarily be a DS game.

 

[Vigilante]

The first Mario and Sonic, Mortal Kombat VS. DC Universe, FF13 on 360, and Tekken X Street Fighter/Street Fighter X Tekken are probably better examples of a crazy thing, but your point still stands with extreme credibility. ^_^

Yeah, problem is most of them suck, sadly. Mario and Sonic are gimmick games, MK VS DC, bleh, Street figher X Tekken seems all right, but I never really cared for Tekken much. FF13 was very bad, and the PS3 version looked worse because of the 360. It seems that people can't do crossovers right unless they are fighting games nowadays. But I would support a remade Super Mario RPG, so long as Square-Enix doesn't give it the new-gen Final Fantasy treatment of being all pretty, no gameplay.

 

[Sariku]

Yeah, problem is most of them suck, sadly. Mario and Sonic are gimmick games, MK VS DC, bleh, Street figher X Tekken seems all right, but I never really cared for Tekken much. FF13 was very bad, and the PS3 version looked worse because of the 360. It seems that people can't do crossovers right unless they are fighting games nowadays. But I would support a remade Super Mario RPG, so long as Square-Enix doesn't give it the new-gen Final Fantasy treatment of being all pretty, no gameplay.

You can't say that they suck by any means of the imagination (besides MKvs.DC). Mario and Sonic was intended to be the game that it was. Just because we find it to be a game that is waggle based and has no depth, the children and young teenagers who the game was made for see it as an exillerating combination of some of their favorite video game characters doing either things that they do in their own lives or that they'll never be able to do.

I believe that if Nintendo and SEGA wished to make a game featuring the two characters for the hardcore ground, whether it be a platformer, a sports game, etc. it would happen and it would be excellent. That just wasn't their market.

FF13 was a bad game, but that wasn't because it was ported to the 360. That's because it was genuinely a bad game, so your point is invalid.

But how can you say that most things are bad? That's being closed-minded, or just forgetful. I forgot this morning, but the most WTF thing to happen in gaming that blew everyone away probably was Kingdom Hearts. Whether you like the sequels and storyline right now or not, it's universally accepted that the first game was an amazing undertaking and something that everyone should have the chance to experience for themselves.

Smash coming to America was a huge WTF thing too, I think. Maybe the concept in general? But you already said crossover fighters are <3, so there is no reason for me to bring this up.

I think the worst crossover game ever was the Spyro/Crash shenanigans, personally. My god, I want to forget those existed.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I don't get why people think that Grey's going to be on the 3DS. I'd expect them to do something where if played on the 3DS it might have a few little tweaks (the way some games have extra stuff if played on the DSi vs DS Lite/Phat) but still primarily be a DS game.

IDK either and apparently I'm the crazy one in this thread for the thinking the same thing...

 

[Chis]

After Pokemon RSE remake on the 3DS the series is dead to me.

 

[Sariku]

I don't get why people think that Grey's going to be on the 3DS. I'd expect them to do something where if played on the 3DS it might have a few little tweaks (the way some games have extra stuff if played on the DSi vs DS Lite/Phat) but still primarily be a DS game.

If Grey comes out in September for Japan, it will probably be on the DS. But if it follows the cycle of all the other "3rd games" for each generation, it will come out in Japan in September 2012.

It would be stupid to think that it would't be on the 3DS at that point.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

I actually found Battle Subway to be nice. And Pokegen is sooo easy for 5th gen. <_< Also logging 120hours on a game doesn't make it bad either...but meh.

Anyways I think they should wait two years to make another Pokemon :3

 

[Wave⁂]

Smash coming to America was a huge WTF thing too, I think. Maybe the concept in general? But you already said crossover fighters are <3, so there is no reason for me to bring this up.

Brawl is a great example of weird crossovers, and we all know how bad that game turned out.

 

[F8AL]

Stop it with the Brawl bashing.

 

[kinghippo99]

If Grey comes out in September for Japan, it will probably be on the DS. But if it follows the cycle of all the other "3rd games" for each generation, it will come out in Japan in September 2012.

It would be stupid to think that it would't be on the 3DS at that point.

I can see Grey coming out this year. It'd be easy to create an expansion of B/W quickly and cheaply, seeing as they will just use B/W as an already existing skeleton to add things onto. Why would they go through the hassle of creating a new Pokemon game on the 3DS when they could just pump one out sometime this year and get it done with? Either way it'll sell like crazy, but it's in their interest if they get Grey out of the way as soon as possible.

 

[The Real Gamer]

We should go ahead and just quit the Grey debate it's all just speculation at this point.

We won't know anything until GF announces something. Until then all we can do is wait.

 

[SupaSairentoZ7℠]

The good games will come out in Summer and that is what I'm waiting on.

 

[UltiMario]

I don't get why people think that Grey's going to be on the 3DS. I'd expect them to do something where if played on the 3DS it might have a few little tweaks (the way some games have extra stuff if played on the DSi vs DS Lite/Phat) but still primarily be a DS game.

I expect it to be on the 3DS because Grey will probably come out in a year and a half or so, and by that time the 3DS should be the dominant Nintendo system. If everyone has it..... why not? I can see why they might alienate some of their audience with only DSes, but admit it, people would buy the 3DS just for Pokemon. It's printing 3D money.

 

[Wave⁂]

Stop it with the Brawl bashing.

I'm sorry that I called you an idiot in my Brawl post. Let's call it collateral damage.

 

[Zankoku]

While making a new game for the newest platform would make sense normally, doing so for Gen5.1 would be the first instance of a Pokémon game being made for a different platform than the rest of its generation (besides .5 remixes), wouldn't it? Though I wouldn't be surprised if a Gen3.5 were on 3DS.

Gen1 (Game Boy) - R, G + B + Y
Gen2 (Game Boy Color) - G, S + C
Gen3 (Game Boy Advance) - R, S + E
Gen1.5 (Game Boy Advance) - FR, LG
Gen4 (DS) - D, P + Pl
Gen2.5 (DS) - HG, SS
Gen5 (DS) - B, W (+ ??)

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Remember that the 3DS can play DS games too, lol. So it's not complete alienation.

 

[The Real Gamer]

While making a new game for the newest platform would make sense normally, doing so for Gen5.1 would be the first instance of a Pokémon game being made for a different platform than the rest of its generation (besides .5 remixes), wouldn't it?

It would be. Each new Nintendo handheld has always spawned a new Pokemon generation, which, for the first time, wouldn't be the case for Grey if it's released on the 3DS... or if its released at all for that matter. We still don't know yet.

But like Karasu just said the 3DS can play DS games, so there's still a small possibility that Grey will be released for the DS instead, which gives GF the opportunity to save the 3D and go all out for generation 6.

 

[kinghippo99]

It would be. Each new Nintendo handheld has always spawned a new Pokemon generation, which, for the first time, wouldn't be the case for Grey if it's released on the 3DS... or if its released at all for that matter. We still don't know yet.

You DO realize that a representative at Gamefreak ACTUALLY STEPPED OUT TO DEBUNK THE RUMOR THAT THERE WOULD BE NO THIRD GAME THIS GENERATION. They ARE planning a "Grey" version (or whatever name it is) and WILL release one within probably the next 2 years (going by release patterns).

If they release Grey on the DS, I hope they make it so it doesn't look so awful on the 3DS. Playing Black on my 3DS gives me a headache unless I shrink it (but then it looks too small, bah).

 

[kinghippo99]

Woops, double post

 

[The Real Gamer]

Thanks for clearing that up for me kinghippo...

Dang I guess they will probably release it for the 3DS then. Still not fond of that idea but w/e.

 

[Vigilante]

Stop it with the Brawl bashing.

While this was not my post, I'd like to defend this person with one point. Stating your oppinion about a game =/= necessarily equal bashing. What it feels like to me is that negative oppinions about Brawl is forbidden in these forums, yet nothing is ever done when people attack Melee. It feel a little "partisan".

I don't see how it's fair to forbid people to say they don't like Brawl. He merely expressed his oppinion that Brawl felt like a weird crossover and that he felt it was bad, and you issue a warning. I think this is overdoing it, with all due respect. You didn't reprimand me for saying FF13 sucked. Why for Brawl? Anyways, those were my two cents. I'm dropping it.

 

[F8AL]

I'm sorry that I called you an idiot in my Brawl post. Let's call it collateral damage.

Don't push your luck.

While this was not my post, I'd like to defend this person with one point. Stating your oppinion about a game =/= necessarily equal bashing. What it feels like to me is that negative oppinions about Brawl is forbidden in these forums, yet nothing is ever done when people attack Melee. It feel a little "partisan".

I don't see how it's fair to forbid people to say they don't like Brawl. he merely expressed his oppinion that brawl felt like a weird crossover, and you issue a warning. I think this is overdoing it, with all due respect. Anyways, those were my two cents. I'm dropping it.

We don't allow any negative comments/posts on Brawl because it usually just leads to Melee vs. Brawl arguments which achieve nothing. I had no problems with his post until the end. ("and we all know how bad that game turned out.")

Anyways, we'd best get back on topic.

 

[Wave⁂]

That was a genuine apology, not sarcastic or backhanded or anything. I don't know what you're talking about.

Anyone know where I can find release dates for some of the spring / summer 3DS games?

 

[Sariku]

Stop it with the Brawl bashing.

We don't allow any negative comments/posts on Brawl because it usually just leads to Melee vs. Brawl arguments which achieve nothing. I had no problems with his post until the end. ("and we all know how bad that game turned out.")

Anyways, we'd best get back on topic.

If I or anyone else chooses Brawl as a title to bash as an example where I bashed many, many titles, then I'm going to do it, whether you or anyone else wants me to or not. :/ If there was any instigation about Melee > Brawl, then I'd see your point, but as Melee never came up, shush.

We should go ahead and just quit the Grey debate it's all just speculation at this point.

We won't know anything until GF announces something. Until then all we can do is wait.

Don't be stupid. This is a 3DS thread which can and will be used for debate on 3DS games. We have been speaking about a game that has a 99% chance of coming out on 3DS as it'll launch in one and a half years, and we know the game will happen. If you don't want to talk about the title, then don't, but don't make your entire post "Let's stop having an intelligent conversation because your opinion is different than mine." And then you threw out that GF hasn't already announced it, though it's obvious it's happening.

I hope I get along with you in the Survivor thread still. :|

It would be. Each new Nintendo handheld has always spawned a new Pokemon generation, which, for the first time, wouldn't be the case for Grey if it's released on the 3DS... or if its released at all for that matter. We still don't know yet.

But like Karasu just said the 3DS can play DS games, so there's still a small possibility that Grey will be released for the DS instead, which gives GF the opportunity to save the 3D and go all out for generation 6.

The other Pokemon games didn't have the issue of a new system coming out, and the ones that were close to a launch where most likely started a while before they got a dev kit. Since even third party publishers have had a 3DS dev kid since WAY before E3, I still say that anyone is a ****** for even considering 3DS NOT coming out on the console.

That was a genuine apology, not sarcastic or backhanded or anything. I don't know what you're talking about.

Anyone know where I can find release dates for some of the spring / summer 3DS games?

The best list is from GameStop. I don't think you can access it online, but they will print you out a copy of all the upcoming titles if you ask them to in-store. Unfortunately, there are no confirmed release dates at all. On the one I got when I preordered SSFIV, it says that Kid Icarus, Animal Crossing 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Super Mario 3D, Mario Kart 3DS, and Paper Mario 3D are all coming out on 8/2/11.

Obviously that's not happening. There aren't really any release dates for notable games out there right now. :S

Except OoT3DS that will be hitting stores on June 2nd, 2011.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Don't be stupid. This is a 3DS thread which can and will be used for debate on 3DS games. We have been speaking about a game that has a 99% chance of coming out on 3DS as it'll launch in one and a half years, and we know the game will happen. If you don't want to talk about the title, then don't, but don't make your entire post "Let's stop having an intelligent conversation because your opinion is different than mine." And then you threw out that GF hasn't already announced it, though it's obvious it's happening.

I hope I get along with you in the Survivor thread still. :|

1. I didn't know if Grey was even going to be made at all until Ultimario's post that I just read like 2 hours ago so now IDK what to think anymore.

2. It's hard to want to continue debating with someone who's openly criticizing everyone else that doesn't share their opinion and calling them idiots. You act as if we're debating politics here. We're discussing a potential 3DS Pokemon game. I'm sure everyone else would agree with me that overall you need to tone it down. You're a better person than that.

3. I have no problem with debating but once it gets to the point where I can tell it's not going to go anywhere I always have a stopping point especially when debating over something that doesn't even have a definite answer yet. This thread doesn't need constant back and forth b/t you and me with random people jumping in here and there. You've stated your opinions and I've stated mine. I'm done with it.

I still say that anyone is a ****** for even considering 3DS NOT coming out on the console.

There are people in this thread that blatantly disagree with you and you still manage to throw out insults... Did you have a rough week or something what is up with you dude?

 

[sakuraZaKi]

There didn't need to be a mentioning of Melee. It's just that there is the possible "leading" to a Melee/Brawl argument. Plus, in order to say that something is bad, there are probably implications of comparison. And it is often seen that Melee and Brawl are the ones being compared.

Regardless, he is upholding forum rules as moderator. You can do what you want, as any of us can, but the consequences will be given to whomever.

And I'd like to agree with TRG. This is mostly speculation. Also, this is the 3DS thread, so don't go too far from what was intended. We have a PS3/360 thread, but do we not have threads for specific games?

On a side note, I tried out the 3DS (SFIV and that Pilot thing) over at the local Gamestop and Target. The blue wasn't exactly the type of blue I prefer, but the system itself was nice. The 3D was actually interesting to look at; nothing new.

The flat d-pad felt nice, like, really nice, lol.

EDIT: Apparently I was beat out within a minute, so ignore or take with a grain of salt if you want.

 

[kinghippo99]

For you 3DS owners out there: Have you had any trouble with your DS's nub? If I try to move mine back and forth too quickly it locks up on me and I don't know if it's just my 3DS or every 3DS in general D:

 

[Sariku]

There didn't need to be a mentioning of Melee. It's just that there is the possible "leading" to a Melee/Brawl argument. Plus, in order to say that something is bad, there are probably implications of comparison. And it is often seen that Melee and Brawl are the ones being compared.

Regardless, he is upholding forum rules as moderator. You can do what you want, as any of us can, but the consequences will be given to whomever.

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The flat d-pad felt nice, like, really nice, lol.

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I don't see any mention in mentioning Brawl anywhere, in the global rules or the Light House rules. That is the only thing that could even closely relate. I did not originally bring up Brawl in my arguments, but if someone chooses to hate it in their comment, then let it be. He never instigated that Brawl was worse than Melee, etc. He just said that Brawl was not a good game in his opinion.

And my 3DS D-pad is never used.

 

[theeboredone]

The 3D was actually interesting to look at; nothing new.

Can you elaborate on that?

Also, there was no need to bring up a brawl hating remark in a 3DS thread. It was just thrown out there, and made no sense. I've seen these arguments and fights get out of hand, and it's annoying. Each game is what it is. Both have their pros and cons. Leave it at that.

 

[Sariku]

Can you elaborate on that?

Also, there was no need to bring up a brawl hating remark in a 3DS thread. It was just thrown out there, and made no sense. I've seen these arguments and fights get out of hand, and it's annoying. Each game is what it is. Both have their pros and cons. Leave it at that.

I believe those are two different statements.

And no one was doing that. People like you just assume that if it does come up, there will be hate following.