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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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TheBeastHimself

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Okay so I got Steve.

Smash online say it's down for maintenance. Does that typically happen when a DLC character releases?
 

cashregister9

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Yep I'm trying to buy the Travis Mii costume and got an error that the Eshop is busy, I somewhat expected this

Any word on Patch Notes?
 
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SKX31

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Beat his Classic, and it's
200 HP Giant Ridley + 2 Low HP Endermen.

Patch notes have been released in Japanese, not sure if an English version is out yet: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/support/switch/software_support/aaab/detail/900_fighter.html

It seems Ness and Bowser Jr. got a lot of buffs.
Bowser Jr. needed buffs, certainly - he was rated rather lowly by a number of pros (ranked #57 amongst their opinions). He had some issues with KOing (outside of his jab, which is one of the few capable of KOing) so that's understandable.

Ness though... oooh. Dunno if he needed that, he was strong already (ranked #29 amongst them). BestNess is really going to love the patch. The down air spike though? That just sounds like it's making PK Fire or PSI Magnet -> Down Air spikes even easier to land, and I dunno if that's justified. Dash attack I can kinda understand, although it having its knockback increased is something Ness mains are going to have to get used to.
 
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SKX31

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How many fighter spirits does Steve have?
2, Steve + Alex (the other's purchaseable via Vault Shop). Zombie and Enderman are in the DLC Board.

Oh lord they actually buffed the rat's F-Air.
Oh joy. As if a major contender for #1 needed another buff. (At least nerf his dumb dash attack pls.)
 
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So guys? How is Steve? Is he as you expected?

Already tried him out. He's a pretty fun character.
I've just been messing around in training.

I keep going farther down than where you can place blocks. The guy just can't recover from the bottom of the screen. Also, blocks mostly seem to hinder horizontal recoveries and not vertical ones.

He is fun, though. Mine carts are the best part to me.
 

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It seems like it's just to help it connect better, though. More of a fix than a pure buff. Link and Captain Falcon got the same on up smash.

Ness' spike is real nice now, just saying. PK Flash is faster now, too.
That seems to have been a common theme this patch - fixing additional multihits all over the place.

Additional buffs:

  • ICs got buffed, Nana got better AI (yes!) while her knockback got decreased likely so that things connect better.
  • Sonic got buffed (Why?!). Mostly multihits, yes, but still.
  • Lucario got buffed (the 'Mon needed some badly, although holy **** Aura got really buffed, and his Force Palm is now legit bonkers. At max Aura Force Palm now kills Puff at 25 % at Small Battlelfield's ledge. Watching Hungrybox's stream.)
  • Shulks Up / Down Smash got a bit buffed, although his Shield shenaningas got seemingly nerfed (perhaps good). Maybe he won't be able to Shield on Frame 1 of being hit any longer.
  • Ridley's Up B got buffed with its hit detection. (pretty good for him)
  • Belmonts got buffed. Knockback buffs on the tilts and smashes. (which they might have needed)
 

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Steve surprisingly doesn't feel extremely weird to play. His mechanics are easy to get used to. His biggest issue is his lack of range.
 
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Ness, Pikachu, and Sonic got buffed......

Yeah, Sakurai probably shouldn't be the one playtesting the characters for future balance patches.
Pikachu's buff is just to make a multihit connect better. That's it. Ness mostly got buffs to moves that were painfully slow or went unused. Sonic I have no excuses for. At least it wasn't a buff to his specials.
His codename appears to be "pickel" btw
uh. what? like a weird pickaxe, or a pickle spelled wrong?
 

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Pikachu's buff is just to make a multihit connect better. That's it. Ness mostly got buffs to moves that were painfully slow or went unused. Sonic I have no excuses for. At least it wasn't a buff to his specials.

uh. what? like a weird pickaxe, or a pickle spelled wrong?
Pickaxe would make sense

But some people are thinking it's possibly a misspelling/mistranslation of "pixel"
 
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TheBeastHimself

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Playing as Steve online has been... interesting so far. Not many opponents I came across know how to use the building mechanic really yet, I've seen most people forgo that move thus far. Steve is a lot of fun though.

Also.

Why no Lucas buffs :( :(
 

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Is it realistic that Steve's codename was an intentional misspelling of "pickle" so that in case the codename got leaked, we would think Cheese Pizza #7 would have something to do with pickles? (Like some sort of red herring.) I know it's possible, but to me, it sounds like I'm going into conspiracy territory... or it could just be what other users said and it's just a pickaxe or pixel?
 
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