Nair vs. Nair: Parachute or Fishbowl?

[Galanoth7395]

Which nair do you like better? I know Fishbowl is better in terms of speed and power, but I actually favor the parachute. In terms of taste, which one do you like?

 

[Sygmus]

I'm still a little more used to using the parachute. It had a nice knockback and I used it almost as much as Fair. Not that I'm a very big G&W player.

 

[UTDZac]

I would rather have parachute. It would give G&W a good aerial kill move besides his conditional fair. Parachute has huge range and would be excellent for killing off the stage.

Though it's nice to have fishbowl to beat up on heavy characters, as it deals 17%. It's a good damage dealer.

Hard to choose, damage over kill move. It's slightly annoying that G&W best kill moves are simply his smashes.

 

[Galanoth7395]

I would rather have parachute. It would give G&W a good aerial kill move besides his conditional fair. Parachute has huge range and would be excellent for killing off the stage.

Though it's nice to have fishbowl to beat up on heavy characters, as it deals 17%. It's a good damage dealer.

Hard to choose, damage over kill move. It's slightly annoying that G&W best kill moves are simply his smashes.

I'm still a little more used to using the parachute. It had a nice knockback and I used it almost as much as Fair. Not that I'm a very big G&W player.

These are almost my exact thoughts. Yeah, parachute had sweet range and knockback... oh well, at least it now boosts MGaW's recovery. A hack making the parachute his nair would be SWEET.

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

a parachute offstage spelled imminent doom. very few moves could **** w/ the chute's power, range or priority. Shame it was slow as hell.

 

[SirDumpling]

IMO, fishbowl.
I couldn't recover worth a crap in SSBM :embarrass

 

[cutter]

The old Parachute by far... considering GW still keeps his parachute from his up B as well.

It was an easy way for GW to kill someone thanks to its gigantic hitbox and the way it sent someone in that downward spiral. It gets tough to kill with Fair when the hitbox is much smaller and harder to get someone with compared to the 'chute.

The fishbowl is amazing, but the parachute was just better.

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

The old Parachute by far... considering GW still keeps his parachute from his up B as well.

It was an easy way for GW to kill someone thanks to its gigantic hitbox and the way it sent someone in that downward spiral. It gets tough to kill with Fair when the hitbox is much smaller and harder to get someone with compared to the 'chute.

The fishbowl is amazing, but the parachute was just better.

Thank you. The chute was stupid(in a good way).


Still, like I said before. GaW is the same as he was in Melee for the most part, just the physics of Brawl made him amazing.

 

[Mr. Escalator]

I would keep the fishbowl over the Parachute. I miss it, yet the bowl is just really important to G&W as a damaging + setup move to lose. HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME CHOOSE.

 

[UTDZac]

Thank you. The chute was stupid(in a good way).


Still, like I said before. GaW is the same as he was in Melee for the most part, just the physics of Brawl made him amazing.

Kinda sorta not really.

Fsmash got stronger.
Dsmash got hell-of-a-upgrade, works differently too.
Upsmash got strong, but no invincible head frames.

Fair stayed about the same.
Dair got a new property.
Uair got a new property.
Nair changed.
Bair has new physics and a sixth hit.

Dtilt got bigger.
Ftilt and Utilt are just silly (hard to remember using them in melee)

Dash Attack spikes on the ledge now.

 

[animeblitzballa33]

The fish bowl in my opinion. Comboing with the turtle and the bowl does wonders. Between the 2 you can rack up 25-45% in no time.

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

The parachute was actually pretty slow; it only seemed good because of how bad Mr. Game & Watch was in melee in general. The fishbowl is incredible in terms of how damaging and quick it is; it's obviously a much better move.

 

[Blistering Speed]

The parachute was indeed slow, but it compensated by its freaking broken range, power and priority.

Both great moves, but parachute was exceptional.

 

[Tero.]

Parachute in Brawl would probably make GaW a bit worse, because fishbowl is freakin awesome for juggling you opponent and it's fast, deals good damage and the hitbox stays out pretty long.

Since juggling is pretty important in GaW gameplay i would prefer the fishbowl, parachute fits more into his melee gameplay tho.

 

[Galanoth7395]

IMO, fishbowl.
I couldn't recover worth a crap in SSBM :embarrass

Lets say the parachute was buffed. It gave a small boost in the air, and now did 20%. What about now?

 

[Roderick]

Parachute, but fishbowl comes close

 

[Mr. Escalator]

Now if this was between the Melee Dtilt and the Brawl Dtilt, I would go melee :3

 

[animeblitzballa33]

Lets say the parachute was buffed. It gave a small boost in the air, and now did 20%. What about now?

What if GaW got a 9 every hammer swing and the hit box covered the entire screen...
You cant play the what if game, you could just go on all day playin that.

 

[yummynbeefy]

i think i like the fishbowl better its just a cool damage racker though i remember his old nair that was awesome

tbh i kinda liked him better in ssbm but he is obviously better in brawl
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[The Sex Puma]

i used melee nair to KO a lot so i prefer parachute.

 

[Tero.]

i used melee nair to KO a lot so i prefer parachute.

So true.
We have enough good kill moves in brawl.

 

[Dragoomba]

Parachute. Epic killing power.

 

[Needle of Juntah]

chute for my style

i like both tho, i always adverse

 

[omegablackmage]

fishbowl by a mile, i was actually playing melee the other day pondering this. Chute was good in that game cuz he really needed a kill move to finish his chaingrabs and combo's off with, but now if you keep a fresh fair, nair is needed to rack up damage and to approach with because its very fast.

 

[brinboy789]

parachute, i was my ONLY reason for even trying to use G&W in melee....

 

[yummynbeefy]

Thank you. The chute was stupid(in a good way).


Still, like I said before. GaW is the same as he was in Melee for the most part, just the physics of Brawl made him amazing.

well he got a parachute on his up-b, the fishbowl, he has a normal sheild, more range on d-tilt, and better hitboxes but the physics did have some responsibility for his beefing

 

[Galanoth7395]

Recap:

Parachute was a good kill move, and had good range.

Fishbowl has a good hitbox, is good for juggling, good for racking up damage, and other good stuff.

Overall, fishbowl is better.
HOWEVER, more people liked the parachute. Shows how much people miss Melee XD

 

[A2ZOMG]

G&W's new N-air by far is better than his old one. Especially when you consider the changes in game physics.

Brawl revolves around solid juggle traps to make up for the lack of true combos in this game. G&W's old N-air would not have been a very good juggle trap due to the hitbox coming out fairly slowly and not lasting all that long. G&W's new N-air is an amazing juggle tool on the other hand.

Also, in Melee, G&W didn't really have any good combos into his N-air. Sure, you could occasionally get it off on fastfallers from a D-throw, but on floaties? Good luck trying to land it at all.

 

[Plum]

The chute had some great killing power, but G&W has more than enough killing power in Brawl to do without it.
If I was playing Melee and had the choice to use the chute or fishbowl I would choose the chute hands down. If I was playing Brawl though, I would rather have the fishbowl because it is such a great damage dealer and puts G&W's platform game on another level that he wouldn't be able to abuse without it.
I love G&W's recovery in Brawl, putting the chute in his up B is just lovely. Yeah, when offstage sometimes Fair just isn't an option and yeah, Nair would be great to have but all in all he doesn't need it.

Great for Melee but really not needed in Brawl due to his crazy kill power as is.

 

[K@0S]

The parachute is great for melee, and the fishbowl is great for brawl. The fishbown is melee and the parachute in brawl would have been bad.

 

[_Phloat_]

IDK, with the floatyness would it autocancel?

 

[A2ZOMG]

The parachute is great for melee, and the fishbowl is great for brawl. The fishbown is melee and the parachute in brawl would have been bad.

Let me get this straight, the parachute wasn't even that good in Melee...

Yeah, you could D-throw -> parachute on fastfallers, but on anything else, it's pretty much garbage.

 

[Orze:]

Lets get rid of chef and give him the chute instead.

 

[Nicole]

fishbowl is much better. in melee, the only thing i used the parachute for was edgeguarding and killing in the air. fair already does that. fishbowl is a great aerial move through platforms and G&W would certainly be worse without it.

 

[Neb]

I loved the 'chute. But in brawl, I believe with the different mechanics, the parachute would just weaken him. Sure, it does good damage, but nair alone grants juggles and smash set-ups, and much more. If G&W had the 'chute in brawl, he'd probably be high or mid tier, fair does fine Its just not the same Game & Watch as Melee's.

 

[animeblitzballa33]

Lets get rid of chef and give him the chute instead.

I like the chef, and plus it wouldnt make sense to have to moves that do exactly the same thing.

 

[Ravener]

Good range, power, priortiy and knockback
Its also good for edgeguarding, wats not to like about the parachute (except for the speed)

 

[omegablackmage]

ya a2zomg, it was actually really good in melee. i think you forget that his dthrow popped people up low and could combo easily out of it. Also dtilt and up tilt were great for setups, along with just fastfalling it off the stage to edgeguard and putting a massive hitbox out for them to get around.

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

Kinda sorta not really.

Fsmash got stronger.
Dsmash got hell-of-a-upgrade, works differently too.
Upsmash got strong, but no invincible head frames.

Fair stayed about the same.
Dair got a new property.
Uair got a new property.
Nair changed.
Bair has new physics and a sixth hit.

Dtilt got bigger.
Ftilt and Utilt are just silly (hard to remember using them in melee)

Dash Attack spikes on the ledge now.

Okay, he got obvious power/property buffs but IMO, he doesn't feel very different. Sure, I can't spam Fair to approach now but he still feels like the same GaW I know and love. Granted, I don't play him much in Brawl anymore.

He's always had massive priority. He's always been a featherweight. He's always been really fun. He's GaW. He's ****. ^_^

 

[Cel]

I think it depends on the situation. It's kinda wierd, I make use of the parachute more but prefer the fishbowl. I like the parachute because it can normally give me a short time away from the opponent to evaluate my play so far in a match and think of what I can do better (also a great stress reliever to say the least), but the fishbowl racks up more damage and puts me that much closer to feeling confident about landing a kill.