Metagame Minute, DI Part 4, Out Now! 12/13/2011 UPDATE!

[B.A.M.]

hahah nice. Dang I half expected a melee MGM again when I scrolled down the page. Thank goodness. Yeah Im glad everyone concurs about the frame trap character ish. Kinda just continuing the Falco laser trap trend, except maybe two characters instead of one. I mean like Iblis said top character mains would definitely help you with that info.

MGM little by little is bettering brawl for the masses. Kudos to you good sir.

 

[GimR]

I mean, I really only have the time to research, write, capture, and edit a video on one subject per week. Like, the Falco frame trap is REALLY simple but still took a very long time to create. I had to spend a good amount of time researching and testing it, on top of that I had to capture a lot of it in frame advance and cut out each frame so it would look smooth in the video. This is monkey work and it's very time consuming.


Also, "Thank you" @ the last sentence

 

[Conviction]

D3 just got a chaingrab/some **** like that against MK. Let's go

 

[-LzR-]

Inb4GrabreleaseGordo.

 

[B.A.M.]

that would be way dumb

 

[GimR]

I'm probably gonna do this weeks episode on something else seeing as I test edthe D3 on MK thing and it seems that it isn't as effective as I thought

 

[B.A.M.]

NOOOOO! lol I was excited. you should do it on marth and his aerial frame traps. it would be cool to see something on meta. That always get people excited lol.

 

[Player-1]

you should do this one for D3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31CfqAlpAfY

 

[Mike2]

you should do this one for D3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31CfqAlpAfY

thats so broken

 

[Tesh]

DDD can do this to MK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrc77U8s9X0

 

[NickRiddle]

DDD can do this to MK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrc77U8s9X0

MK DIs up.
Now there's mixup.

 

[B.A.M.]

Im dreaming of a Metagame minuteee.

@Nick Riddle: Is being in space really fun? Because I personally would miss my ATP carrier.

 

[NickRiddle]

Im dreaming of a Metagame minuteee.

@Nick Riddle: Is being in space really fun? Because I personally would miss my ATP carrier.

Being in space is SO MUCH FUN!
You don't even know.

 

[GimR]

I'm working on it right now guys. Sorry for the wait

I'm Releasing the Next Episode tomorrow. It's very detailed and thus I had to record a lot of footage and do a lot of editing. That's why it's taking so long.

 

[MK26]

^i like the sound of this

the part where its in-depth and detailed, not necessarily the part where it isnt coming out tonight

 

[GimR]

Episode 8 - Mr. Game and Watch's N-air Tech Chase - 5/31/2011

 

[Grim Tuesday]

even dont i this is what

 

[Conviction]

-__- This is cool, but GnW's Dthrow is already gay lol.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Not bad at all.

 

[B.A.M.]

A2ZOMG putting in work? good for him. I know my training partner is going to love this. Good stuff guys. Now this is a brilliant MGM. Especially since it was done last minute. these are the things that people need to see.


EDIT: So GIMR the edge slip at the edge of the stage has the same amount of frames as the edge slip on the platform? Because if thats the case cant some characters jab lock to the end of a stage and put you in a situation where either you eat the jab and you are offstage ( which isnt a good place for most characters) or they shield and edge slip leading to a free footstool or stage spike? Just curious. cuz ive been trying that with a little setup of mine.

 

[MK26]

what prevents this from being able to punish techs in place on some characters? their tech animation?

 

[GimR]

A2ZOMG putting in work? good for him. I know my training partner is going to love this. Good stuff guys. Now this is a brilliant MGM. Especially since it was done last minute. these are the things that people need to see.


EDIT: So GIMR the edge slip at the edge of the stage has the same amount of frames as the edge slip on the platform? Because if thats the case cant some characters jab lock to the end of a stage and put you in a situation where either you eat the jab and you are offstage ( which isnt a good place for most characters) or they shield and edge slip leading to a free footstool or stage spike? Just curious. cuz ive been trying that with a little setup of mine.

Characters can grab the ledge it seems during their edge slip so you don't have much time at all unless the move you hit them with sends them so far off the edge that they can't grab it. GW's 4th hit of N-air is really weak so they almost immediately grab the ledge.

what prevents this from being able to punish techs in place on some characters? their tech animation?

Mostly their height.

For super heavy characters you can't punish the tech since they can shield before the N-air comes out(Heavier=GW has a longer D-throw animation)

 

[stingers]

hey this was a nifty week. good vid =] u should find some peach stuff lol

 

[GimR]

hey this was a nifty week. good vid =] u should find some peach stuff lol

I already have Peach stuff

 

[stingers]

wtf @ that pic haha

well do it next week then =D

 

[Scatz]

Hey GIMR, I have something that you can look into if you have the time. I'll PM it to you if you wanna know about it.

 

[GimR]

Hey GIMR, I have something that you can look into if you have the time. I'll PM it to you if you wanna know about it.

please do, that would be great



@Stingers: Maybe I will

 

[Conviction]

Oh ****, more Yoshi techs.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Quite interesting to know G&W had such a nifty thing with just his downthrow.
Can only imagine what the next episode'll be about.

@Iblis - Nah, we most likely have all of our techs discovered... Hopefully.

 

[A2ZOMG]

A2ZOMG putting in work? good for him. I know my training partner is going to love this. Good stuff guys. Now this is a brilliant MGM. Especially since it was done last minute. these are the things that people need to see.

Are you trying to imply that I haven't done anything besides this? That's the way you come off to me. You have much to learn about the characters I research. I unintentionally put in a lot more work into this game than most people, mainly in the form of experimentation as well as match analysis/critique.

And GIMR, I'm only mildly upset you didn't cover the D-tilt/Oil Panic option selects but you did such a good job in this video that I think I'll let it slide. =P

 

[GimR]

And GIMR, I'm only mildly upset you didn't cover the D-tilt/Oil Panic option selects but you did such a good job in this video that I think I'll let it slide. =P

It took me so long just to cover the N-air that it wasn't worth it lol

 

[Laem]

What happens to all these characters when they 'land' behind g&w and techroll forward? (Or land in front of, and tech roll behind him)

 

[A2ZOMG]

Does that even happen in tournament? Seriously think for a moment how difficult that is to do.

I will tell you though that I love grabbing people near the edge if they techroll towards it. Free F-smash!

 

[Flayl]

What? isn't it just choosing a direction during the animation of dthrow and then pressing shield at the right time? I mean I've always done that away from G&W, but I can't see how it would be hard to go the other way.

Maybe there's something I'm missing?

 

[A2ZOMG]

You can only DI a hit during the first frame of knockback. It CANNOT be buffered. While you can buffer a tech, it will be in the direction you were last inputting.

So actually landing on one side and techrolling in the opposite direction is RIDICULOUS, especially since a lot of characters are only in the air for one frame after being D-throwed.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Oh. It's just GIMR "Option Select" (even though it's not an option select)

 

[GimR]

Oh. It's just GIMR "Option Select" (even though it's not an option select)

It depends on how you define Option Select. I was actually going to change it to Frame Trap, but I forgot :/

 

[A2ZOMG]

It can be called an option select in that the hitlag involved allows that a single set of inputs can effectively cover multiple options.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

If I delay the n-air on the forward tech roll punish, can I get the third-hit frame advantage?

 

[A2ZOMG]

Nope, doesn't work that way. You can't fastfall soon enough to land that way.