Dogysamich (1:30:57 AM): Doc/Character
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Fox - 50/50
Marth - 30/70
Sheik - 40/60 (35/65)
Falco - 50/50
Peach - 45/55
Capfal - 40/60
Jiggs - 55/45
ICs - 60/40 (under the assumption ICs have no real CG on doc)
Samus - 45/55
Doc - 0/100
Ganon - 50/50
Luigi - 50/50*
DK - 45/55
Mario - 50/50**
Link - 55/45
Pikachu - 50/50
Y.Link - 55/45
Roy - 60/40
Zelda - 45/55
G&W - 60/40
Ness - 50/50
Yoshi - 60/40
Bowser - 55/45
M2 - 60/40
Kirby - 60/40
Pichu - 65/35*
Dogysamich (1:31:14 AM): * = It's a matchup i REALLY dont know too much about (should be one on pikachu, too)
Dogysamich (1:31:34 AM): ** = i could argue doc mario being 6-4, 5-5, or 4-6 real easy
Dogysamich (1:31:46 AM): so it's really easier to call it 50 50
DDoTWx2 (1:34:25 AM): wore
DDoTWx2 (1:34:26 AM): word
DDoTWx2 (1:34:41 AM): you think doc has the edge on ic?
Dogysamich (1:35:45 AM): under the assumption that they have no chaingrab
Dogysamich (1:35:50 AM): if they have a chaingrab, i'd call it even
Dogysamich (1:36:04 AM): so like, if wobbling is legal, i call it even
Dogysamich (1:36:12 AM): and beyond that, i dont know if they have a real, works anywhere chaingrab
Dogysamich (1:36:25 AM): but even with that, that matchup is kinda lol
Dogysamich (1:36:31 AM): you ban fd, camp platforms
Dogysamich (1:36:43 AM): pill till they get bored and come in, or until you can get over them safely
Dogysamich (1:36:44 AM): f.air
Dogysamich (1:36:44 AM): f.air
Dogysamich (1:36:45 AM): f.air
Dogysamich (1:36:46 AM): f.air
Dogysamich (1:36:46 AM): f.air
DDoTWx2 (1:37:30 AM): hmmm
DDoTWx2 (1:37:35 AM): and fox/falco is 50/50?
Dogysamich (1:38:23 AM): the way i see it, yeah
Dogysamich (1:38:35 AM): becaues doc actually has means to deal with pillaring (up+b)
Dogysamich (1:38:45 AM): so in the event he is put in that situation and wants to deal with it, he can
Dogysamich (1:38:53 AM): the matchup is really about keeping them out
Dogysamich (1:39:16 AM): doc can zone and still be mobile (FH d.air waveland, shbawd, etc etc),and he has cape to combat falco lasers
DDoTWx2 (1:41:24 AM): vs pika is 50/50?
Dogysamich (1:43:55 AM): i think it is, and it comes down to just knowing how to play it
Dogysamich (1:44:12 AM): or are you saying that as in you're surprised it's not like 60/40 or something?
DDoTWx2 (1:44:27 AM): i thought doc had a slgith advantage
Dogysamich (1:47:39 AM): i really dont know, i havent played a pikachu since i've gotten to "not suck status"
Dogysamich (1:47:54 AM): well, not a good one
DDoTWx2 (1:47:57 AM): ah
Dogysamich (1:47:58 AM): i've played a few, but well, they got annhilated
Dogysamich (1:48:00 AM): XD
DDoTWx2 (1:48:10 AM): umm
DDoTWx2 (1:48:23 AM): well besides that, i think you got everything right
DDoTWx2 (1:48:47 AM): so, woud you perhaps mind if added this convo to the matchup thread?
Dogysamich (1:48:59 AM): I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO PULL THIS **** ON ME
Dogysamich (1:49:00 AM): XD
DDoTWx2 (1:49:01 AM): help them organize it a little better
DDoTWx2 (1:49:08 AM): loll dont gimme that
Dogysamich (1:49:23 AM): feel free, people are going to look at it and be like "omg no way blah blah blah. I saw this one doc get ***** by a ganon before that has to be 70-30"
Dogysamich (1:49:32 AM): DONT GIVE YOU THAT
Dogysamich (1:49:35 AM): YOU THINK IM DUMB OR SOMETHING?
Dogysamich (1:49:35 AM): XD
Dogysamich (1:49:44 AM): YOU THINK I CANT READ SETUPS
DDoTWx2 (1:49:45 AM): lol
DDoTWx2 (1:49:50 AM): yet you told me anyway
DDoTWx2 (1:50:19 AM): well w'e
DDoTWx2 (1:50:29 AM): your doing people a favor cause imo you got it all correct
Dogysamich (1:53:50 AM): yeah i told you cause its a setup
Dogysamich (1:54:00 AM): if we were playing, you'd be on the respawn platform
Dogysamich (1:54:00 AM): XD
DDoTWx2 (1:54:10 AM): haha shhhh