Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
And everyone else is in a bias state because they aren't IC's mains...?
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[MAJOR] Australian Cyber League (ACL): Melbourne April 9th-10th
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luke_atyeo
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I can hide behind fancy words and terms too, but I just prefer to call you an idiot.
TakFR
Smash Lord
Yeah we are all bias due to being experienced
Zxv
Smash Lord
I'm pro wobbling.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
<3 Zxv
Anyway, I'm not going to spam this thread up with a Wobbling debate like last time, I might end up making a thread about it that none of you will listen to anyway.
I'd still like to know what the Brawl ruleset will be though, I don't want to be CP'ing Norfair only to find out that it's banned.
Anyway, I'm not going to spam this thread up with a Wobbling debate like last time, I might end up making a thread about it that none of you will listen to anyway.
I'd still like to know what the Brawl ruleset will be though, I don't want to be CP'ing Norfair only to find out that it's banned.
Jei Jei
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...Norfair will be banned. That's a no-brainer.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
It was an example Jei Jei, we don't have Norfair legal here in SA either.
(Though the stage is fine as long as you have at least 2 stage bans >_>, but whatever)
(Though the stage is fine as long as you have at least 2 stage bans >_>, but whatever)
Nicks
Smash Journeyman
haha dont be hatin dekar, i've seen you enjoying brawl before
i'd like to see the pound V stagelist, just to try it out more than anything. the americans seem pretty content. just one time...
Leisha
Top Tier Pillow
Frigate is fine really, but yeah take out the other 3.
soz, i meant to post that in the couchwarriors thread.
no rainbow ride or pokemon stadium 2 in the major. picto is fine. brinstar is gay.
no rainbow ride or pokemon stadium 2 in the major. picto is fine. brinstar is gay.
Ah.
Want to see Cao before he leaves.
Want to focus on things at home though.
Good stuff on hitting ACL hard Phil. JB told me you were emailing him a lot and I told him you were da man with da plan.
Want to see Cao before he leaves.
Want to focus on things at home though.
Good stuff on hitting ACL hard Phil. JB told me you were emailing him a lot and I told him you were da man with da plan.
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
super keen for this
Sirias
Smash Champion
I am sleepy.
But would like to come.
Hum diddly hum...
Need redemption.
Cao v Kas in EVERY GAME FOR FINALS.
WE GOT DIS, DADDY! :D
But would like to come.
Hum diddly hum...
Need redemption.
Cao v Kas in EVERY GAME FOR FINALS.
WE GOT DIS, DADDY! :D
Zxv
Smash Lord
Pictochat is fine. As is Frigate. Rest are borderline.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
What's up with the PS2 hate? It's WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Picto and Cruise xD
Anyway, I think Pictochat should be banned, because it randomly screws people over.
Frigate Orpheon should be legal, and PS2 :/
I don't care about Cruise lol, it only really works with 2 stage bans (Meta Knight >_>)
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
bazinga 10 bazingas
S.D
Smash Master
Wow didn't see that psyche coming AT ALL Tom.
<3
ps2 is freakin ********. nothing in picto forces you up close, or forces you off the stage (blowing doesnt really, only if you get caught on the ledge by some transformations), and nothing makes you commit to jumping for 10 seconds, either.
cruise is managable at least; you can stay away and dont have to jump that often, either.
M
+9999999999
Picto's transformations basically force you to not fight.
Personally think PS2 is better than Pictochat, but only slightly. and both shouldn't be there.
Personally think PS2 is better than Pictochat, but only slightly. and both shouldn't be there.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
So... your only problem with PS2 is the electricity part? o_O
It last for like... 30-45 seconds and is just as bad as the PS1 transformations that completely stop game-play (the rock one and the tree one).
You can't tell me with a straight face that that is worse than this.
Leisha
Top Tier Pillow
I would throw my controller if this happened to me lulz.
Well, yeah I never really understood why Picto was counter pick. Too much random crap poping out thats unavoidable in cases
Well, yeah I never really understood why Picto was counter pick. Too much random crap poping out thats unavoidable in cases
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Leiiiiiiiiiish, can you teach me R.O.B. if I come? :3
Leisha
Top Tier Pillow
That can be arranged then :3
Am I teaming with you for this as well vivaz?
Am I teaming with you for this as well vivaz?
this is AMAZING.
the snake got out of the grab three times; he just bad. although it was pretty lolz.
not half as bad as being forced off the stage or trapped in the air, however; its basically a free stock against my characters.
not half as bad as being forced off the stage or trapped in the air, however; its basically a free stock against my characters.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
He got out of the grab, and then it was footsies over whether he was grabbed again. Sure, it only happened because he got out-played, but no one is perfect.
Snake can either stay in the middle on the electric stage or on the ledge (both situations he isn't forced into the air off-stage).
On the air stage, snake isn't helpless on the air part lol. He can drop heaps of **** down below him and he has bair.
Snake can either stay in the middle on the electric stage or on the ledge (both situations he isn't forced into the air off-stage).
On the air stage, snake isn't helpless on the air part lol. He can drop heaps of **** down below him and he has bair.
ViVa
Smash Ace
as you said, he got outplayed. stuff gets even more gay on a stage like yoshi's, when the ghost comes and takes my c4 away while i'm recovering with it...
snake loses quite badly to most high tier characters when he is forced to fight up close. if he didn't he wouldn't rely on camping to win in almost every mu. ever tried fighting an mk without being able to space your camping? its pretty terrible. and recommending snake is fight on the ledge is even worse.
and snake is helpless if he's already double jumped on the air transformation; his fastfall doesnt allow him to get past anyone, bair is beaten by almost any disjointed (spaced) aerial in the game, and the only thing he can drop is c4s (nades need to be throw, and they go way too high up anyway). not to mention if he makes it on the ground, his soft nade throws go over every opponent, despite spacing, making his ground defence rubbish.
have you actually played a good player on this stage?
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Of course not, I live in SA.
Being a bad stage for a character (Snake, in this case) is a pretty common trait of counter-picks... I don't see what the problem is. It's not like he is always forced to ban it in every MU or something.
Being a bad stage for a character (Snake, in this case) is a pretty common trait of counter-picks... I don't see what the problem is. It's not like he is always forced to ban it in every MU or something.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Why? Seems like Brawl to me. It's not like I could beat M2K there or something, so it's obviously pretty similar.
Nova
Banned via Warnings
lol.
And yeah, Snake is helpless in the wind transformation, prime example is ZSS since her u-air destroys him and she has a d-air which sends her back to the ground very quickly.
I use snake as the prime example because he's the player I know the best and can comment on safely. Although I can easily say that no character should be able to deal with mk on the electric transformation, all heavies get juggled in the air and Diddy can approach unhindered on the air transformation.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Still doesn't seem like it should be banned... o_O
Of course characters are going to get advantages on counter-pick stages, nothing you've brought up seems game-breaking though.
Of course characters are going to get advantages on counter-pick stages, nothing you've brought up seems game-breaking though.