Mahone
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Kaizer
Smash Journeyman
Oskar
Smash Cadet
The only thing that stood out to me was that you don't really abuse Puff's crouch at all, even though you're playing against characters that are super susceptible to it. One of the Danes mentioned this about you after I think it was KFC2 and I definitely see what they mean. There were a few times when you had them pinned down in their shield and landed in front of them, only to immediately move away again or go for another move. Might wanna slow it down a bit in those situations and wait and see what they do, then react accordingly.
Really awesome Puff, though. Plenty of sick rests and stuff. I gotta start watching Norwegian vids.
Really awesome Puff, though. Plenty of sick rests and stuff. I gotta start watching Norwegian vids.
Kaizer
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, that's a good point. I try to abuse this aspect of puff, but I get too focused on spacing moves I think. Slowing down a bit sounds like a good advice, I'll look into it!
And thanks! Are you going to Beast?
And thanks! Are you going to Beast?
Bones0
Smash Legend
You can instant ledge grab from a run off (like Yoshi) by up-Bing as you slide off. Your jumpsquat animation has to be timed so that it's canceled as you run off, and then you sing immediately after. It'd just be a cool little mindgame so you can make them think you're running off for a dropzone fair and edgehog instead. A lot of people will try to sweetspot right before your fair would hit, and instead of grabbing the ledge right before the fair comes out, you'll edgehog them, and even if they didn't up-B yet, they'll be too mindgamed to realize what happened in time. :D
Bones0
Smash Legend
Bones (Jigglypuff) vs. PB&J (Fox) [no sound]
Got a few matches if someone wants to give me some advice. Idk how you Puff mains ever grab Foxes. I was trying to look for tomahawks, but it never seemed like a good time to do it. Maybe I just need to punish better on stray hits so they have more of a reason to stay in shield. Second game I just got ****ed up.
Got a few matches if someone wants to give me some advice. Idk how you Puff mains ever grab Foxes. I was trying to look for tomahawks, but it never seemed like a good time to do it. Maybe I just need to punish better on stray hits so they have more of a reason to stay in shield. Second game I just got ****ed up.
idea
Smash Master
lol did anyone see me get ****ed up by m2k in jiggs dittos? i couldn't see anything consistent to do against his edge camping stuff. only things that worked occasionally.
KrIsP!
Smash Champion
No, I await the uploads.
Bieber
Smash Apprentice
yeah i saw that. i think there were some spots where you could've counterattacked him out of shield, or maybe weaved in and out to try and clip him with safe bairs like hbox eventually started doing that one time he and m2k puff ditto'd
good stuff getting 3rd tho
good stuff getting 3rd tho
Voltz
Smash Journeyman
M2k thinks Jiggs is his best option in P:M *facepalm.*
Bones0
Smash Legend
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idea
Smash Master
haha thanks, i couldn't find a gif of it so i made one myself. that was years ago, though
knightpraetor
Smash Champion
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mahone is back; the world better fear
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Is he still sponsored by SK?
Mahone
Smash Champion
rofl, naw, after they saw me lose to m2k they kicked me out
but its coo, i got like 10 other sponsors lined up AND READY TO GO
but its coo, i got like 10 other sponsors lined up AND READY TO GO
Keblerelf
Smash Ace
i think i finally realized how good puff's back air is.
Voltz
Smash Journeyman
Mango needs to go back to Puff.
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
Why does mango "need" to go back to puff?
Bones0
Smash Legend
So we can get Puff dittos between him and M2K at Evo.
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
No better way to represent our game to the entire fighting game community! :D
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Hey....Puff dittos are pretty cool.
It occurs to me that there is more high level Puff ditto development than there is Peach ditto development. That is something to be grateful for (even though I like them).
It occurs to me that there is more high level Puff ditto development than there is Peach ditto development. That is something to be grateful for (even though I like them).
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genkaku
Guest
neither is especially fun.
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
Puff dittos aren't that cool, lol. It's pretty much playing footsies and stage control for 6-8 minutes at a time. After I got out of pools at at northwest manifest, had to do a ****ing bo5 puff ditto and omg was it dumb. We played it all on yoshi's and it still took half an hour cause it went to game five. Granted, I'm sure it's better than peach dittos, but so is every over MU in the game lol
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I like the footsies and stage control. The lack of combos and fast kills make them more a test of patience/endurance, and you don't feel overwhelmed. At least, that's why I like them.
The Peach ditto isn't that bad either, but if you get two of them who don't want to do more than throw turnips....barf.
The Peach ditto isn't that bad either, but if you get two of them who don't want to do more than throw turnips....barf.
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
Yes, but I'm talking about as a spectator, since this is about puff dittos at evo.
Playing puff dittos can be pretty entertaining, I like the MU alright. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that it isn't very interesting. The match is extremely repetitive, and approach options are limited to pretty much just bair. There are occasional reads, but a majority of the times it gets punished with another bair or something similar. It's often comparable to playing a first-to-50 of Divekick, minus any potential hype except the end of the last stock if it's close. (which is rare.) Ultimately, the MU is just flow-charty and predictable, and it's the risky stuff that one puff player may or may not decide to do that gives them either an immediate advantage or disadvantage. Otherwise, it's pretty much "luck" based assuming equal skill since the character is so damn safe
edit: btw I'm exaggerating, don't take me too incredibly seriously lol.
Playing puff dittos can be pretty entertaining, I like the MU alright. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that it isn't very interesting. The match is extremely repetitive, and approach options are limited to pretty much just bair. There are occasional reads, but a majority of the times it gets punished with another bair or something similar. It's often comparable to playing a first-to-50 of Divekick, minus any potential hype except the end of the last stock if it's close. (which is rare.) Ultimately, the MU is just flow-charty and predictable, and it's the risky stuff that one puff player may or may not decide to do that gives them either an immediate advantage or disadvantage. Otherwise, it's pretty much "luck" based assuming equal skill since the character is so damn safe
edit: btw I'm exaggerating, don't take me too incredibly seriously lol.
Mahone
Smash Champion
i like playing puff dittos against people with worse spacing
but its sorta like torture vs people with equal/better spacing cuz unlike other matchups u can't really selfdestruct and get gimped 3 times in 30 seconds once u start losing, u gotta take ur beatings like a man for 6+ minutes while u pretend like u can bring it back from ur 40% deficit
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You can't.
but its sorta like torture vs people with equal/better spacing cuz unlike other matchups u can't really selfdestruct and get gimped 3 times in 30 seconds once u start losing, u gotta take ur beatings like a man for 6+ minutes while u pretend like u can bring it back from ur 40% deficit
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You can't.
Bones0
Smash Legend
Sounds like barlw.
Except barlw doesn't have footsies or stage control, so I'm not sure what else it actually offers in terms of competitive elements.
I really think Jason should either go marth in that MU, or practice his fox tech skill some more
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Stage control in Brawl isn't something I'm too knowledgeable about, tbh, but I think Brawl has footsies too. They seem to be more pronounced, since the game is so slow.
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
yeah, brawl does have footsies. It's also extremely mixup oriented, more-so than melee at times. Stage control is also chiefly important, especially since characters like metaknight can cover 150% of your options when you're on the ledge, plus being on the same horizontal plane as ice climbers = death lols. But Brawl is a very flow-charty game in general, so puff dittos actually do bare resemblances to brawl in all seriousness.
Bones0
Smash Legend
I've never seen footsies in barlw. All I ever see is Metaknights walking around so they can tilt/dsmash on reaction.
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
MK's spaced fairs and ftilts are pretty much footsies.
Bones0
Smash Legend
I picked the first, most recent M2K singles video I could find.
Show me your footsies!
Show me your footsies!
Voltz
Smash Journeyman
I believe that puff dittos and puff vs ylink should be 2 stock 4 minutes.
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
@Bones
just in the first two minutes:
0:35 -> 0:41 (footsies)
0:48-1:40 (stage control, mostly m2k holding center)
1:43-1:50 (footsies)
That video isn't the best place to find examples of footsies for that reason, lol. I was more thinking MK dittos in that last post though, shoulda clarified.
0:35 -> 0:41 (footsies)
0:48-1:40 (stage control, mostly m2k holding center)
1:43-1:50 (footsies)
dudutsai
Smash Lord
How to play against Samus? I against Samus not very much and hard to fight
Kick away all the rockets and avoid the charge shot and Samus won't have anything big on us.
Oh and certain moves like her dsmash are very easy to rest oos. Samus has a hard time against us. Just play gay and bair carefully and they won't be able to do much. (I think)
Oh and certain moves like her dsmash are very easy to rest oos. Samus has a hard time against us. Just play gay and bair carefully and they won't be able to do much. (I think)
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
We're one of the few characters that can gimp her, too. Don't let samus do her dumb recovery nonsense.
Also, dair is surprisingly good in this matchup. Dair into grab/fsmash, etc. Samus has no close-up options, so duck a lot to bait out up+b's. You can rest a poorly placed up+b, or just be safe and hard punish it. Stay on the floor at range more to shield stuff.
pretty easy once you get the hang of it, just don't fall for gimmicky stuff such as her utilt.
Also, dair is surprisingly good in this matchup. Dair into grab/fsmash, etc. Samus has no close-up options, so duck a lot to bait out up+b's. You can rest a poorly placed up+b, or just be safe and hard punish it. Stay on the floor at range more to shield stuff.
pretty easy once you get the hang of it, just don't fall for gimmicky stuff such as her utilt.