Louie's Notes-Olimar Q&A Thread!!

[ccst]

LoL you're all exaggerating... xD

 

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Yeah...

don't ask that one olimar....

who like...


has 3-stocked...


tommy and chibo...


or anything like that...


cause...


random ROBs know what they're doing...

n ****...

-dead-

I actually didn't know this, or it hadn't come to mind. How long ago did you play them, Apex? At any rate he could probably use your help too, just send him a message.

 

[CT Chia]

Talk to Fino about the ROB matchup, not Hilt lol
or talk to Logic
or talk to Dabuz

edit: fino's prob 3 stocked me once in a friendly or something, i forget
but i killed him with over B, so his argument is invalid
vex saw it, we will never forget

 

[Jiom]

Ya talk to fino, he is really good and knows his stuff, hilt does aswell but fino can also test stuff for you

 

[Denti]

What's the blue pikmin for? He seems like the worst

 

[PSI.kick]

it's for mast... uh nevermind.

 

[steep]

What's the blue pikmin for? He seems like the worst

blue pikmin are pretty good for most things, but back throw with them is particularly ridiculous.

 

[Jane]

What's the blue pikmin for? He seems like the worst

mexicans are not the worst :mad070:.

 

[Denti]

Mexicans are the best. Ultra tasty food. Chips and queso ftw




Blue pikmin still suck tho

 

[Turazrok]

I honestly hate having whites in my line.

Not having whites, but them being in my line.

Throw asap

 

[Denti]

whites r the best pikmin

 

[Atomic Yoshi]

Does purple u-smash have a sweetspot? Sometimes I'll hit my opponents at over 100% and they won't die :V

 

[Dnyce]

Does purple u-smash have a sweetspot? Sometimes I'll hit my opponents at over 100% and they won't die :V

Ye s

 

[ScAtt77]

Is it better to just use jab one instead of following up with jab 2?

 

[Asa]

if you can get your opponent to sit in their shield, just jab once and grab

 

[NintendoNerd]

Red Pikmin are immune to fire. And Blue Pikmin are immune to water.
But does that also mean that red Pikmin are weaker to water attacks? And blue Pikmin weaker to fire attacks?

 

[Sky Pirate]

Red Pikmin die instantly in water, but that's about it.
Haven't heard anything about blue Pikmin dying earlier in fire attacks.

 

[NintendoNerd]

Red Pikmin die instantly in water, but that's about it.
Haven't heard anything about blue Pikmin dying earlier in fire attacks.

But do red Pikmin also die (earlier) from Mario's F.L.U.D.D. or Squirtles water gun?

 

[Sky Pirate]

I've gotten tossed reds blown away by Squirtle's water gun returning a second later, so I doubt they get a ton of extra knockback from the two moves (if any).
And I doubt red Pikmin die earlier to uncharged Water gun or Waterfall. It's not that important, TBH.

 

[Asa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnjQYPqJIqA useful? granted, a human mk would rarely nado like that lol

 

[MiniTroika]

What's the hierarchy of grabs?

Shield Grab
Dash Grab
Boost Grab
Pivot Grab
Boost Pivot Grab

 

[Asa]

dash and boost are the most frowned upon

boost pivot and pivot i think are equal, its nice to vary between the two to mess with the opponent's spacing

you forgot standing grab XD

 

[MiniTroika]

Shield grab and standing grab are the same.

 

[Asa]

doesn't shield grab have a longer startup time since you need to drop your shield?

 

[MiniTroika]

Yeah. I should have clarified in the original question. I'm looking for the hierarchy of grabs based on their range, not speed.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

You don't have to drop your shield for a shield grab. It's like a jump cancel.

 

[Dnyce]

Grab inputs are read as Shield and Attack simultaneously, so a shield grab is the same as standing grab, you're just delaying the Attack input until later. Same concept applies if you're using gair.

 

[Denti]

How many frames until Olimar automatically retracts to the ledge when hanging after tethered?

 

[Dnyce]

How many frames until Olimar automatically retracts to the ledge when hanging after tethered?

I could find out for you if you want. I haven't really looked into it yet though. I imagine it would be related to length, but I can't say for sure.

 

[FOUREYES]

I was poking around the DDD forums since I like to use him when I'm playing casuals and I found this: http://youtu.be/pPVB4-NLlsQ

Would skid cancel grabbing be preferable to dash grabbing?

 

[Kaffei]

Why is Olimar so good

 

[Sky Pirate]

Ah! Skid-canceled shield grabbing is old news around here (though we never referred to it as such).
It's generally preferable to SCSG. Dash grab with Olimar has less range than a normal standing grab.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Question: When I have MK at bay and he's trying to get in, they will often use FFed Fair to deflect Pikmin/keep me at bay. What can I do to remedy this if they keep using Fair in this manner? The MK I was playing today over my house kept doing that, and staying outside of Pivot Grab/F-Smash range.

 

[Kaffei]

Question: When I have MK at bay and he's trying to get in, they will often use FFed Fair to deflect Pikmin/keep me at bay. What can I do to remedy this if they keep using Fair in this manner? The MK I was playing today over my house kept doing that, and staying outside of Pivot Grab/F-Smash range.

so he just stands in 1 spot and spams fair?

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

No, hes moving around and doing it. I got my answer though actually. L_Cancel hooked me up. I just picked up Olimar so I don't know all my options admittedly lol

 

[N_o_M]

Have you guys gone over the wario MU? If you haven't does anyone have advice?

 

[Sky Pirate]

Eheh... Actually, that's one of this week's discussions.
We've discussed it before. I can post the link to the previous discussion thread in the new match-up thread when I find it.

Is this time-sensitive?

 

[N_o_M]

No one of the main players in Iowa plays Wario, I still can't figure out the MU after watching videos and playing it.

 

[N_o_M]

Fino gave me some advice, Such as not grabbing as much also U Tilting his down air its pretty tricky timing.

 

[jbandrew]

wait, with olimar you can literally space by spamming grab?? Like just standing grab?