Poltergust
Smash Master
I think that Yoshi's up-smash is more effective than his Egg Toss. While they both go through each time, Yoshi's up-smash is (obviously) stronger and does more damage. It is also slightly quicker, too.
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List of moves that easily beat Metaknight's neutral B (no longer updating)
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CaliburChamp
Smash Master
MK's d-tilt beats tornado.
Problem2
Smash Champion
Marth's Up-B breaks through the tornado.
DemonicTrilogy
Smash Lord
Ice Climber's Blizzard out ranges and out prioritizes...
eyestrain92
Smash Journeyman
I know it's been stated, but... Thank you. Godlike contribution. Golden contribution. I'd rather D-air or N-air from above than F-tilt, but none-the-less, any chance to use Bowser's massive fist is something to practice.
shadowlink3
Smash Journeyman
warios f smash doesn't work
Metal_Dave
Smash Journeyman
There needs to be a new list made, this guy hasn't bothered at all editing the thread in a while now.
shadowlink3
Smash Journeyman
oh lol didnt know
eh, it's kinda stupid to do this. sorta venting, I guess, but here's a list of Sonic moves that I've had clang with (and cancel) MK's grounded/low tornados:
F-tilt
Spindash (via invincibility frames)
B-air
Spring (grounded)
and moves that outprioritize it altogether or easily hit the "sweet spot":
F-smash
D-smash
Spring (falling)
D-air
Homing Attack
Spin charge (aerial, and 'randomly', grounded spin charge beats grounded tornado)
and here's the kicker.
moves that outpriotize or easily beat high/aerial tornado:
Spring (falling)
D-air
On a silly note, it seems like falling springs are Sonic's highest priority spammable move.
Really, I got at least 30% damage on the spammiest MK I've seen on wifi because I kept dropping springs on him and interrupting ledge up-B's, which he was stupid enough to be stubborn and keep doing.
I really don't care if this is edited into the main post or not, I just think it's a little frustrating to have seen how much priority aerial Tornado has, and sorta stupid to see what beats it XD
F-tilt
Spindash (via invincibility frames)
B-air
Spring (grounded)
and moves that outprioritize it altogether or easily hit the "sweet spot":
F-smash
D-smash
Spring (falling)
D-air
Homing Attack
Spin charge (aerial, and 'randomly', grounded spin charge beats grounded tornado)
and here's the kicker.
moves that outpriotize or easily beat high/aerial tornado:
Spring (falling)
D-air
On a silly note, it seems like falling springs are Sonic's highest priority spammable move.
Really, I got at least 30% damage on the spammiest MK I've seen on wifi because I kept dropping springs on him and interrupting ledge up-B's, which he was stupid enough to be stubborn and keep doing.
I really don't care if this is edited into the main post or not, I just think it's a little frustrating to have seen how much priority aerial Tornado has, and sorta stupid to see what beats it XD
phosphorus
Smash Cadet
A while back I read someone talking about (as Sonic) leaving a spring on the ground or on a platform to cancel MK's tornado. It's possible (though very situational) that you could make a MK Self Destruct with this.
Rh1thmz
Smash Journeyman
lol...CF's B-down is total junk. Period.
CJTHeroofTime
Smash Lord
I definitely have to test this stuff out, i was knocked out of a tourney because of someone spamming Mach Tornado. Thanks for the posts. I play Olimar btw.
chic
Smash Ace
oh come on!!
Little England
Smash Master
Jiggly's nair cancels out this gay *** move 
LinkPlayer_Ryan
Smash Rookie
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Falco FTW against MK players who can't get enough of tornado spamming. However against overall good MK players....that is another story.
LinkPlayer_Ryan
Smash Rookie
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Are you POSITIVE that Marth's forward B works against the Tornado? I don't remember having success with dancing blade versus the tornado. That would be FANTASTIC if it does work though.....have you tested this thoroughly to make sure that dancing blade worked against the tornado when it was at its highest priority?
I mean, I could understand dancing blade working at the very beginning or end of the tornado, but when it's at its highest priority sounds too good to be true.
Let me know if you've tested dancing blade vs. the tornado at its highest priority or not.
TKD
Smash Lord
It doesn't lol
Ftilt's the best. Counter works. Fsmashing gets too predictable. Oh, upB too. Invincibility frames from the ground =)
gantrain05
Smash Master
i think ness Fair is possible one of the best anti nado moves out there. if you don't hit the right spot, it can just clank until you hit it lol.
TKD
Smash Lord
From my experience, it always beats it. So yes, we need a list of the moves that always beat it, not such random ones...there are two listings of anti-tornado moves, and both are a bit off.
Ulevo
Smash Master
Why is this thread revived? The OP already said he's done with it and not updating meanwhile I'm constructing my own.
Also TKD, Dancing Blade does go through Nado.
Also TKD, Dancing Blade does go through Nado.
msott47
Smash Rookie
Thanks for letting me know. Now i can start predicting what the player im player is about to do when i do my tornado
flame013191
Smash Cadet
Wario's Dair works well against it also. It's a little supprising how well it works seeing as how it's not exactly the best move in the game......
DemonicTrilogy
Smash Lord
Guys, Pit's Nair does work, it's just that Pit will most likely get hit in the process.
Also, I've had a case where a Meta Knight's up tilt went through my tornado.
Also, I've had a case where a Meta Knight's up tilt went through my tornado.
Kaffei
Smash Hero
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I agree. He's fat too.
7ACE7
Smash Apprentice
I don't think it matters much. Even without the tornado meta knight still completely outclasses wario.
Let it be known that G&W's UpB is a great counter against the tornado. I'm pretty sure there aren't many G&W's that know how to do this exactly, but some probably already knew that UpB is a good choice while in the tornado.
UpB doesn't stop tornado. So technically it doesn't belong in this list. However, UpB is the perfect counter move against MK. Some G&W's know that G&W while in the tornado can SDI left/right and sometimes use UpB which pushes MK way up in the air because of the air push. This is only somewhat useful, because it doesn't always work.
My useful technique: When MK is approaching with the tornado, G&W needs to jump at MK and use UpB right before entering the tornado. The timing for this isn't really tight, but depends more on the location of G&W before using UpB. Imagine the image of MK and his tornado in the OP. The Tornado is shaped like a V. Now Imagine it to be a box/square. G&W needs to be at the bottom left/right corner of this box when executing UpB. Or in other words, perpendicular to the sides of the V.
If down correctly, MK will be pushed all the way to the blastzone and G&W only half that distance. This allows G&W to get back to the ground with ample time to punish MK with and smash attack (fsmash is best option) or edgehob. Also let it be known that it's NOT possible for G&W to keep MK in the air with his uair trumpet if the MK simply smashes his control stick down repeatedly really fast (SDI the air from the trumpet) Yeah it works, seriously.
Haven't posted this in the G&W boards yet. Thought I'd give the MKs a head start before the ****** begins. MKs will never tornado G&W again
A1lion835
Smash Champion
I'd like to point out that both of kirby's hammers, while admittedly hard to hit with, can both beat Tornado. His inhale also does, but it has to have already been started, so you basically need to charge into our attack >.>
gantrain05
Smash Master
or your can just go into stone mode and laugh as MK can't do anything to u >.>
I know right? Because who uses grabs? Seriously.
gantrain05
Smash Master
well when MK figures out how to grab out of tornado you let me know, and don't even speak of grabs with that stupid DDD avatar.
lol good call. I must've forgot which thread this was lol.
LuigiKing
Smash Lord
Seriously -_-
gantrain05
Smash Master
i've broken it a few times with Nair with luigi from above the nado if that helps at all.
gantrain05
Smash Master
no its not, you just have to time it right with the SA frames, but yes we all know the tornado is ghey.
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