It's 1999, you're the director of a new Nintendo based fighting game, and you have to pick 12 characters, but...

TheMightyP

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#1
...all of the characters from Smash 64 were from financial failures in this timeline. In other words, the original 12 we have now; you can't use them or anyone from their series. You have to pick other characters that Nintendo owned from before, and at 1999 without using the following series:
Mario (THIS INCLUDES WARIO)
DK
Yoshi
Zelda
Kirby
Starfox
Metroid
Pokemon
Earthbound
F-Zero

Since it is 1999, Rare is fair game.

Have fun.
 

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This is stupid. U make a fun topic then take the fun out of it with dumb****. A lot of ppl dont know any dead nintendo franchises and many ppl only buy their consoles for 1 obvious game.
 

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Yes guys, this was meant to be more of a challenge. I understand that it might be limited, but there are quite a bit of characters that you guys can choose from. Think of games like Urban Champion, ExciteBike, and the such.

Also, no need for the snark guys
 
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#8
Little Mac
Lolo
Excite Biker
Marth
Soldier (Wars series)
Pit
Mike Jones
Banjo & Kazooie
Fulgore
Rash
Lupus
Mech (Blast Corps)

(wanted Conker & Joanna Dark but there games came out in 2000)
 
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Hm...

Hmm...

1. Banjo-Kazooie
2. Conker
3. Ice Climbers
4. Balloon Fighter
5. Mike Jones
6. Mach Rider
7. Lolo & Lala
8. Duck Hunt Trio
9. Mr. Game & Watch
10. R.O.B.
11. Bubbles
12. Excitebiker
 
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A Smash Bros. equivalent simply wouldn't exist because Nintendo would be dead.
All retro characters.

But let's be realistic if those games were failures Nintendo wouldn't exist.
If Mario was a failure, the whole video game industry would have died out by the late 80s. It's thanks to Miyamoto's success of the first Super Mario Bros. that we still have a gaming industry today.
 

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...all of the characters from Smash 64 were from financial failures in this timeline. In other words, the original 12 we have now; you can't use them or anyone from their series. You have to pick other characters that Nintendo owned from before, and at 1999 without using the following series:
Mario (THIS INCLUDES WARIO)
DK
Yoshi
Zelda
Kirby
Starfox
Metroid
Pokemon
Earthbound
F-Zero

Since it is 1999, Rare is fair game.

Have fun.

My list is:

Banjo and Kazooie

Bomber man

...all of the characters from Smash 64 were from financial failures in this timeline. In other words, the original 12 we have now; you can't use them or anyone from their series. You have to pick other characters that Nintendo owned from before, and at 1999 without using the following series:
Mario (THIS INCLUDES WARIO)
DK
Yoshi
Zelda
Kirby
Starfox
Metroid
Pokemon
Earthbound
F-Zero

Since it is 1999, Rare is fair game.

Have fun.
...all of the characters from Smash 64 were from financial failures in this timeline. In other words, the original 12 we have now; you can't use them or anyone from their series. You have to pick other characters that Nintendo owned from before, and at 1999 without using the following series:
Mario (THIS INCLUDES WARIO)
DK
Yoshi
Zelda
Kirby
Starfox
Metroid
Pokemon
Earthbound
F-Zero

Since it is 1999, Rare is fair game.

Have fun.
Banjo and kazooie
Bomberman
Pacman
Mrs.Pacman
Spyro
Crash Bandicoot
Duck hunt
Rob
Mr.GameAndWatch
Ice climbers
Marth
Pit
 

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#15
Here's mine:
Starting
1. :ultgnw:
2. :ulticeclimbers:
3. :ultrob:
4. :ultlittlemac:
5. :ultduckhunt:
6. :ultbanjokazooie:
7. Virtual Boy
8. Urban Champion
------------------
Unlockable
9. Excitebiker (Excitebike)
10. Bub & Bob (Bubble Bobble)
11. Conker (Bad Fur Day)
12. Ramdozer (Blast Corps, yep a ordinary bulldozer)
 
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I agree with the others who said Nintendo wouldn't exist anymore in this hypothetical scenario. Video games could still exist, since this isn't about 1983, but if by 1999 Nintendo IPs aren't successful, then you won't have Super Smash Bros. Of course, Hal Laboratories is its own, I believe, so Sakurai could still make something.
 

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#17
I think that if we can't use the big stars we need to run with that.

That's the new story of the game. These are the losers and washedup has beens that are competing for a shot at their own new game from Nintendo, (or at the very least, a guest starring role in the new Mario game.) The game should have humorous endings and openings to support this.


So... Playable characters


Little Mac
Pit
Captain N
Mach Rider
Urban Champion
Ice Climbers
Mike Jones
Ayumi Tachibana
Stanley the Bugman (While technicaly part of the DK series, he was part of the DK series that existed BEFORE the games we think of as the DK series.
Ray from Custom Robo
We could also include ROB or just the Professor from Gyromite.


I think that's a fairly good lineup.


... and I'm still going sneak Mario into the opening movies, even if it's just a cameo.
 

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#18
If they supposedly did make a fighting game despite these conditions, I wonder if we would’ve actually gotten Dragon King: the Fighting Game instead of a crossover.
 

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#19
Mach Rider
Katamaru
Marth
The Startropics guy
Banjo (who was a Nintendo license back then)
Duck Hunt Dog
Pit
Quest 64 Hero
Rash from Battletoads
Little Mac
Medusa from Kid Icarus
Glass Joe
 
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1. Sheriff
2. Bubbles
3. Takamaru
4. Pit
5. Balloon Fighter
6. Banjo Kazooie
7. Duck Hunt Dog
8. Tamagon
9. Conker(although it'd be based on Pocket Tales since Bad Fur Day wasn't currently out)
10. Lip
11. Juno, Vela and Lupus(Jet Force Gemini)
12. Goose (Pilotwings 64)

Harder than I thought it'd be.
 
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So we basically have to figure out which series became massive successes in this timeline. Honestly the best idea I've seen for "hypothetical Smash 64 but thing" threads. Congratulations.

I'm guessing Super Kid Icarus was made in place of Super Metroid.

Punch-Out games became bigger and bigger. Punch-Out 64 was one of the best-selling launch games of all time.

Speaking of N64 launch titles, the N64 would never have been successful if it wasn't for the ambitious Ice Climber 64. This game set the industry standard for 3D games coming out in the next few decades, with its jaw-droppiong use of the vertical axis for exploring vast 3D mountains, and its innovative real time multiplayer exploration system.

Banjo-Kazooie, influenced by the success of Ice Climber 64, also developed its own multiplayer exploration system and came out in 1998 as a slightly different game as we know it, but to the same amount of critical acclaim.

And of course, you can't speak of Rare without speaking of the classic arcade game reimagined as a 2D platformer trilogy for the SNES, featuring state-of-the-art pre-rendered silicon graphics: Wild Gunman Country, released in 1994. After this, Nintendo made sure to buy Rare, officially making them and their series part of their first-party lineup of games.

After the critical and commercial failure of Star Fox and the FX chip in the SNES, Nintendo decided to take another jab at the 3D arcade dogfighting concept in more powerful hardware. Space Firebird 64 was a revival of their arcade classic, and with its exciting setpieces, fully voiced dialogue, cheesy but massively entertaining story and complex branching paths, it was destined for success from the start.

The N64 was a great system, but it wouldn't have the success it had with casual audiences if it wasn't for Balloon Fight Kart and Balloon Fight Party. Balloon Fight was becoming a worldwide phenomenon, and it would be hard to imagine a world where Balloon Fight games didn't release multiple times per year, but it's games like this that truly made them a part of pop culture. The fact that there wasn't a main-series Balloon Fight game for the entire N64 generation is still a mystery, but all these other games made a decent job to keep fans happy until their grand return on the Nintendo Gamecube.

You can't make a Nintendo system without a new version of the Robotic Operation Buddy, more commonly known as R.O.B. The N64 features R.O.B. III, and its complex artificial intelligence can learn to play just about every multiplayer N64 game out there. While you can use him as a partner for games like Ice Climber 64, Banjo-Kazooie or even Smash itself, there's no game that takes advantage of him as much as Gyromite 64.

Also they made another ****ing Mach Rider, my imagination is running out.

In this timeline, there's no doubt that the roster of fighters would be something like this:
-Popo (Ice Climber)
-Pit (Kid Icarus)
-Little Mac (Punch-Out!)
-Banjo (Banjo-Kazooie)
-Wild Gunman (Wild Gunman)
-Firebird (Space Fire Bird)
-Balloon Fighter (Balloon Fight)
-R.O.B. III. (Nintendo)

And the four unlockable fighters, sharing some of the animations of the 8 originals to different extents:
-Nana (Ice Climber)
-Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie)
-Professor Hector. (Gyromite)
-Mach-Rider.
 
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1. Banjo & Kazooie (Banjo Kazooie)
2. Pit (Kid Icarus)
3. Marth (Fire Emblem)
4. Little Mac (Punch Out)
5. Balloon Fighter (Balloon Fight)
6. Popo/Nana (Ice Climber) (they'd be alternate skins)
7. Duck Hunt (Duck Hunt)
8. Jago (Killer Instinct)

Hidden

9. Excitebike (he'd get the Captain Falcon treatment with an entirely made up moveset that becomes a meme)
10. Takamaru (Takamaru)
11. Conker (Conker)
12. Devil (Devil World)
 
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I feel like Banjo wouldn't exist in this hypothetical scenario, since he debuted in Diddy Kong's Racing, since we assume that Wario doesn't exist in this scenario either. But if I had to pick one, it would be

ROB, Game + Watch, Little Mac, Ice Climbers, Duck Hunt Dog, Mach Rider, Pit and Takamaru with secret characters being Megaman, Simon Belmont, Pac-Man and Bomberman.
 
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#26
Mike Jones
Mike Anderson (Battleclash 1 and 2)
Ice Hockey Player
Nester
Harry from Teleroboxer (Virtual Boy was a success in this timeline)
Balloon Fighter
Lolo (adventures of lolo)
Mr Wright (Sim city)
Little Mac
ROB
Mr You (Sky Skipper)
Bald Bull/Masked Wrestler (Punch Out/Arm Wrestling)
 

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#27
:ultgnw::ultmarth::ulthero::ulticeclimbers::ultbanjokazooie::ultpit::ultlittlemac::ultduckhunt::ultzelda:

Excitebike
Balloon Fighter
James Bond(because why not)

I have no idea what I just did, but I'd play it. Not Luminary, but probably Erdrick.
 
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I feel like Banjo wouldn't exist in this hypothetical scenario, since he debuted in Diddy Kong's Racing, since we assume that Wario doesn't exist in this scenario either. But if I had to pick one, it would be

ROB, Game + Watch, Little Mac, Ice Climbers, Duck Hunt Dog, Mach Rider, Pit and Takamaru with secret characters being Megaman, Simon Belmont, Pac-Man and Bomberman.
I think Wario was pretty relevant and known by Smash 64's release. He was in several games before the first Smash Bros. made it's debut to the world. Half of those was from his own series.
 

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  1. Takamaru
  2. Banjo-Kazooie
  3. Pit
  4. Duck Hunt
  5. Marth
  6. Little Mac
  7. Erdrick
  8. Mach Rider
  9. Jago
  10. Ayumi
  11. Billy Lee
    ε Jimmy Lee
  12. Conker
A timeline where The Mysterious Murasame Castle is how we have Zelda, Mach Rider is viewed like how we view F-Zero, Rare characters are further defined as Nintendo characters, Famicom Detective Club is exposed to English speaking audiences alongside Fire Emblem, etc., would be very interesting. I could see Pit as being Nintendo's mascot, but like Crash was viewed as Sony's unofficial mascot, people would probably associate Banjo-Kazooie as Nintendo's face.
 

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Starter:
Muddy Mole - Mole Mania
Little Mac - Punch Out!!
Excitebiker
Duck Hunt
Banjo-Kazooie
Dion - Marvelous
Sky Skipper/Mr. You - Sky Skipper
Dr. Wright - SimCity

Unlockable:
Jinbe - Mole Mania
Glass Joe - Punch-Out!!
Mike Jones - StarTropics
Sutte Hakkun

Stages:
Jinbe Land - Mole Mania
Boxing Ring - Punch-Out!!
Excitebike course
Duck Hunt
Spiral Mountain
I don't know anything about Marvelous so I'm not sure what to put here
an original "skies" stage based loosely off Sky Skipper
SimCity
 
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  1. Takamaru
  2. Banjo-Kazooie
  3. Pit
  4. Duck Hunt
  5. Marth
  6. Little Mac
  7. Erdrick
  8. Mach Rider
  9. Jago
  10. Ayumi
  11. Billy Lee
    ε Jimmy Lee
  12. Conker
A timeline where The Mysterious Murasame Castle is how we have Zelda, Mach Rider is viewed like how we view F-Zero, Rare characters are further defined as Nintendo characters, Famicom Detective Club is exposed to English speaking audiences alongside Fire Emblem, etc., would be very interesting. I could see Pit as being Nintendo's mascot, but like Crash was viewed as Sony's unofficial mascot, people would probably associate Banjo-Kazooie as Nintendo's face.
This is probably my personal opinion, but I would have preferred Mach Rider, Ayumi, or Takamaru over the Ice Climbers as the NES rep in Melee. Mach Rider I believe almost made it since he was one of those 14 or 15 NES characters considered before the Ice Climbers were chosen and his music was left in the game.

Looking back at it now it seems very suspicious that Mach Rider got a track in Melee because all the music in the game except that track was all related to either the playable characters or the stages in someway. Basically you didn't hear any music outside of the franchises represented in the roster. Of course, that completely changed in Brawl, Smash 4, and Ultimate.
 

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This is probably my personal opinion, but I would have preferred Mach Rider, Ayumi, or Takamaru over the Ice Climbers as the NES rep in Melee. Mach Rider I believe almost made it since he was one of those 14 or 15 NES characters considered before the Ice Climbers were chosen and his music was left in the game.

Looking back at it now it seems very suspicious that Mach Rider got a track in Melee because all the music in the game except that track was all related to either the playable characters or the stages in someway. Basically you didn't hear any music outside of the franchises represented in the roster. Of course, that completely changed in Brawl, Smash 4, and Ultimate.
There was also Balloon Fight music in Melee.
 
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