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  • Heads up Everyone: Apparently 16 unused placeholder slots were discovered in World of Light, suggesting up to three fighter pass DLC waves are possible. This coincides with the datamine that discovered 30 unused slots in the roster proper.
    https://twitter.com/PapyrusSemi/status/1109451055102779393
    Thought you ought to know.
    So after a little bit of testing I revised my tier list. This new one also excludes Miis.
    https://www.smashtierlist.com/f481a3f13af5b9191c562490a374d403c65be19d2255d56e4705944f3479ac0c/

    The highest tier I feel like are fighters that are basically OP. Not Smash 4 Bayo or Brawl MK OP, but in this sense they have advantages in pretty much every matchup and counterplay against them can be really hard.

    The tier below that includes fighters that I feel like are really strong and also have difficult counterplay against, but simply aren't as strong as the ones above.

    Everything else is basically self-explanatory.

    And yes, I feel like Little Mac is the worst fighter in the game.
    BuffKirby
    BuffKirby
    While I agree G&W + Bowser Jr. are not very good, I believe that Ganon's mid tier (look at the amount of buffs he got from Ultimate).

    Duck Hunt and Pac Man should be lower, Luigi and Fox should be higher, but everything else is pretty good IMO.
    JaiTheGuy
    JaiTheGuy
    I would move Mario and Pac Man up
    IsmaR
    IsmaR
    Smaller nitpicks aside, I think you're selling Mega Man too short.
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    I'd move Link up 1 tier on your list and switch places with Yoshi and Pokemon trainer. Pokemon Trainer basically has 2 airdodges bro, not only being able to freely escape combos with little risk but also punish them after doing so, or extending combos offstage for super early edge guards with Ivy. Pokemon Trainer tends to attract really bad players for some reason, so you just might not have fought enough good ones to really see its advantages. I still think Wolf and Peach are tied for best character in the game and Wolf actually does have an inherently OP neutral, in the form of best projectile and air dodge in the game, also having the BEST ledge trap tilt in the game as F-tilt, literally edge guarding the majority of the cast for little to no effort.
    So for those of you who couldn't tell, I'm really disappointed by Joker's inclusion. I'm sick and tired of third party fighters, we already have four third party newcomers in this game alone, with probably another four on their way. For me, if Smash is truly going to be ultimate, it should be Nintendo only. I've had enough of third party edge lords that have almost nothing to do with Nintendo suddenly making their way into what's supposed to be a Nintendo crossover game. Third party fighters are a waste of space.
    RazorGuild
    RazorGuild
    Is there any god damn reason why Ultimate should be nintendo only? It’s meant to be a crossover series and I really don’t see the harms of third party characters. I also don’t understand on how third parties are a waste of space, because they are way more unique and unexpected than “oh wow shadow, he plays a lot like sonic.” It’s a way to generate hype and hell it ****ing works, but calling them a waste of space makes you (no offense whatsoever towards you personally) an overcentralized nintendo fanboy, who only wants nintendo characters, I really don’t see the issue with these third parties, really if you dislike them cool, but calling them a waste of space for like “another mario character” is just outright wrong.
    I think it would help your General Series Discussion thread series if the first post of each thread contained links to all the others — basically a table of contents.
    Mogisthelioma
    Mogisthelioma
    Alright. I'll do that. I'll be posting Earthbound/Mother this afternoon, so I'll add a table of contents.
    OK what's going on. The other day I had over 500 posts and was a Smash ace but today I'm a journeyman with less than 500. If some of my posts got deleted at least let me know.
    IsmaR
    IsmaR
    If you posted in a thread that has since been moved to an area that doesn't track post count (Forum Games, for example), then your post count may have corrected itself.
    Mogisthelioma
    Mogisthelioma
    Ok thanks!
    The next person who tries to compare Dedede to a sword wielding anime boy and says they're the same needs to go back to history class and learn the difference between certain melee weapons.

    And how is a giant 6'6 penguin the same as a 5'10 anime character
    Okay, can someone explain why every image I see posted or in a signature isn't showing up? Over half of my signature is blocked out.
    Zinith
    Zinith
    It happens occasionally. The admins are getting to work on it and you'll get 'em back soon enough...
    Kabutops
    Kabutops
    Dead links maybe?
    How y'all liking the new profile pic? I feel like it really represents what Smash is all about and how wonderful than fanbase is to conjure such imagery.
    It's a long story involving some photos.
    Benjakshin
    Benjakshin
    what....
    Mogisthelioma
    Mogisthelioma
    *sigh* some screenshots. I should have said that. Basically only my account can use my computer, so no one else can create an account on this. Although I use other devices to log in and share some of them, I use this one mainly. But enough about that. As someone who doesn't even spend too much time online how could I possibly be managing another four accounts.

    I really don't want to discuss this further because I was able to prove my innocence to the mods, so it's not an issue anymore.
    Benjakshin
    Benjakshin
    Ahh i reasd further. Good luck my guy. This world's pretty unfair i've realized.
    I just want to say that the recent bannings of several alternate accounts have noting to do with me. I have created no alternate accounts and I have proof. The accounts in question, 3 31fps, TheBean TheBean, and Factors Factors, are not mine. They were all created by another person. I have tried to be a good member of this community since I joined. Please understand that I would never do such a thing.
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