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Yeah, I remember doing this lane when Graves first came out. Free double kills once you both hit 6.I got something we can talk about.
Leona Graves.
Holy **** it's strong if you can survive early- like if they got a farm lane or something. I swear it's insta-kill on any traditional bot laner at 6 just by landing an E with leona. If they got cleanse you can still kill them if they don't cleanse->flash immediately. Even then u can try to predict it if they're good and u know they'll flash.
it's the same idea as pantheon leona, but it's weaker early game and scales harder late game.J4 leona bot apparently too good.
Udyr is e z modeSo I played Udyr top for the first time yesterday. I felt invincible. Is Udyr that easy or are my opponents just always bads.
It's literally get Wriggles, become unmovable.So I played Udyr top for the first time yesterday. I felt invincible. Is Udyr that easy or are my opponents just always bads.
Neither, you're just that good!!So I played Udyr top for the first time yesterday. I felt invincible. Is Udyr that easy or are my opponents just always bads.
people are way too scared of udyr top and give him too much respect level 1. he is fairly invincible once he gets up to like level 7 with wriggles, but he's bullyable at low levels by low level bullies and I find Irelia more immovable post-wriggles and more useful in teamfights later. that's my take at least. tl;dr: I'd rather play Irelia.So I played Udyr top for the first time yesterday. I felt invincible. Is Udyr that easy or are my opponents just always bads.
This is what I wanted to hear.So I played Udyr top for the first time yesterday. I felt invincible. Is Udyr that easy or are my opponents just always bads.
Sounds like the champ I've been looking forward to.Udyr is just silly, and he can hold solo top against 2 better than Akali b/c he has hard CC on demand and built in tankiness via shield.
Udyr's been my main for about a year.Sounds like the champ I've been looking forward to.
I only really jungle with Nocturne and Amumu. Nocturne can solo top, and since I build him a bit tanky he may be able to 2v1 but it sounds like Udyr's base stats and post-LVL 6 would make him better for a 2v1 top situation.
So a few questions (I know I can solo-mid this stuff but I like hearing SWF's player responses):
1. Udyr - Solo Top. What's my build lookin' like? Why? How do I play Udyr solo-top, and what should I be concentrating on?
2. Udyr - Jungle. What's my build lookin' like? Why? How do I play jungle Udyr, and what should I be concentrating on?
I'd rather have a tanky, invincible, CC ganking machine as opposed to the glass cannon route. I think that's normally the best route for junglers in general since most of their gank opportunities involve a carry of some sort to do the main damage.
There are no tricks to playing udyr! QWER all day. old-school sona style!Udyr's been my main for about a year.
I'm very selective about who I share my tricks with, though. PM me and I'll enlighten you.
You guys did say Cho'Gath is good Solo-Top and Jungle.if you're desperate for a 1v2 character, buy cho gath
Hrm. I kinda' agree with the responses made below that post.
that's cause they're the same character except Skarnar is just better.Oh man.. i could write pages about jungle udyr, but then I picked up skarner and herp derp lost all interest in udyr lol.
Characters based on WoW bosses are better. True story.that's cause they're the same character except Skarnar is just better.
you forgot perma AoE slow and higher damage output.Skarner isn't as strong solo top, imo.
However Skarner AoE clears just as fast as Udyr and then past level 6 has a suppress for ganks along w/ his speedboost and high base damages.
I run as marks, flat armor seals, mr/ level glyphs and ms quints, build mostly just tank and not much damage. But idk what the actual good/recommended builds are.I wanna try jungle Cho. What runes and masteries should I use?