ArcNatural
Banned ( ∫x, δx Points)
Competent Junglers will just steal all your buffs/whatever they want if you don't have smite. You have no way of stopping 445+ dmg for objectives.
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DallasPhat
Smash Master
Yeah this sounds awful .... just everything you wrote is awful. Dblade skarner start? You know skarner benefits more off attack speed then anything else right? Why not regrowth and rush philo by 4 minutes? You sound like an awful jungler.
This is my skarner start, I spec 0-21-9 (Like i do with udyr since skarner benefits off movement speed and tankiness).
Skill order is the following : Q - W - E - Q (then you max Q first, w next and e last also grab a point into ult whenever you can).
I start Wolves>Blue>Wraiths>Wolves>Red>Mini Golems (Back and buy philo by then, jungle should be cleared by 4:05-4:15 and you should be 4)
Find a lane to gank or rush to 6 (if you rush six by jungling only you should be 6 by 5:30-40)
My item order is the following:
Regrowth+1 Health Pot > Philo > boots > then either Heart of Gold or start working on wit's end (if you're doing well you should have wit's end by 12 minutes thats my average time), then build accordingly to their team after that.
Vyke
Smash Champion
I'd agree with Dphat except the part where you're an awful jungler, just rather misguided in builds.
It probably works where you're at, but it won't keep working.
It probably works where you're at, but it won't keep working.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
No he still sounds like an awful jungler not grabbing smite as a jungler not only slows you down but also risks the chance of losing buffs/dragon/baron.
Vyke
Smash Champion
Which was already stated before you even needed to say anything. Stop being rude to people.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
I can be rude to whoever I want to vyke. Don't like my post then ignore me or don't read them. Pretty ****in simple bro. No need to sugar coat **** for people vyke. Not only did I tell him he's doing it bad but I even gave him a proper build. I maybe rude but atleast I'm trying to be productive and give him help instead of just saying "OH you're just midguided on builds." How the **** is that helpful?
Leacero
Smash Lord
*drama gank*
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
john!
Smash Hero
i said "in most situations"
xerath won't hit more than 2-3 people with his ult in most situations
it was a sentence long post, you could have at least finished it
dphat is really hard to drama gank. even if you drama gank, he commits balls deep to the drama cuz he doesn't afraid of anything.
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
This is actually my default on Skarner, although I go 21 in offense. I'm just really liking the early game strength of Doran's atm. Also, .8 bonus AD on Q makes a strong case in the AD vs. AS argument.
Also, jungle clear time is virtually unchanged without smite. I like having buff control, but I also really like having an extra spell with which to team fight... maybe when fighting over the buffs.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
You know.. smite saves you literally 8-10 seconds per use.
Anyways Attack speed synergies better with skarner, his passive alone decreases spell cd per auto attack, meaning that every hit you do not only makes you Q faster but you can also keep W up permanently, have E up quicker and have your ult on basically a 40 second cool down. Sure your Q will do more damage with every AD but with attack speed you'll do more damage solely to the fact of the sheer numbers or spells you can cast.
Anyways Attack speed synergies better with skarner, his passive alone decreases spell cd per auto attack, meaning that every hit you do not only makes you Q faster but you can also keep W up permanently, have E up quicker and have your ult on basically a 40 second cool down. Sure your Q will do more damage with every AD but with attack speed you'll do more damage solely to the fact of the sheer numbers or spells you can cast.
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
The time saved is reduced as you level.
Look, I get it, ok? This is just something I'm really liking and, at my ELO, it's working hardcore.
Look, I get it, ok? This is just something I'm really liking and, at my ELO, it's working hardcore.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
I'm glad you're having fun in your current elo, but if you strife to get better then you got to play more efficient. You're on that slush status to me who refuses to take advice and is contempt on being mediocre/bad.
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
No, I'm taking the advice and I'll use it when my current stuff stops working.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Why do a mediocre stomp when you can stomp them even harder? I don't understand lol. Why play a sustain character as a burst character?
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
It's really exciting to get early game kills and then look like you're snowballing 
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Or you know, hit 6 then snowball uncontrollable out of control cause skarner is bull****.
Zolga Owns
Smash Lord
Considering buying Haunting Guise and CDR boots on Vlad for laning. Tell me why this is a terrible idea.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
cause I'm pretty sure both abyssal and void staff would end up giving vlad alittle less life but more penetration/resistance.
Zolga Owns
Smash Lord
That's what I thought. I just always see Vlad players do this, and I think "well I guess it makes their lane phase super strong but I wonder if it's worth it instead of rushing Abyssal or Void for Mpen". Maybe it's just a 1400-1500 ELO thing.
WotA is the only thing you'll ever need on Vlad for infinite laning power.
Leacero
Smash Lord
Theoretically getting a guise/CDR boots would give you the maximal early dmg increase for the laning phase, but I would still rather just rush a hextech as vlad as it would lead to useful items and the sustain you gain is still better. (1485g for 25 AP/200 HP + 20 pen vs 1200g for 45 ap and 15% vamp)
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
In truth, I really shouldn't even argue about my Skarner stuff because I've been almost exclusively using Yi atm (on whom I run smite).
Also, I run gold/10 quints and seals on Poppy.
On the subject of bullcrap, I'm really not liking how certain characters seem ridiculously difficult to balance. Like, how do you make Xin Zhao 'strong' without being 'OP'?
Is Riot terrified of balancing items because they might accidentally superbuff a character (like how they supernerfed everyone who like Gunblade)?
Zolga Owns
Smash Lord
They could atleast make the spellvamp AD item(s) already...
I strife to get better at English too, Andy. How about you? <3
Vyke
Smash Champion
Dodge refund?
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Well.. I would put yoona above taeyeon and maybe even jessica above taeyeon.
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
I've always wondered if that was a Korean band thing in Dphat's sig/avatar.
Dphats so cute when hes wrong
I could watch Yuri move her hips all day, ****ing goddamn
Funny story about Dphat's avatar. Last night I'm laying in bed looking at SWF on my phone and I zoomed in real far to see an image someone posted. Then I scrolled down a little ways and suddenly an asian chick with her mouth open suggestively is taking up my entire screen. And then my wife rolls over and looks at the screen and then back at me like "wtf Jason? I'm laying right here."
Thanks for making me explain that one buddy.
Thanks for making me explain that one buddy.
Vyke
Smash Champion
It couldn't have been that bad of an explanation... Just zoom out on the phone and be like "Don't worry baby, I'd never take a moon girl over you."