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Evanms

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Da ****.

Why does an AP carry have to have an amazing late game? <.<

If you send Zilean mid and rush a deathcap you're betting on him carrying you to late game. >.>
Dont worry about it dan. This guy is has been Jazriel's protege for a long time now.
 

JTB

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I always thought he wasn't due to his ult being countered so easily, but I'm second guessing myself after seeing peke doing well with him.
 

JTB

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Banshee veils, many champions having some sort of shield, heals, etc
 

straight8

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well i dont think he outlanes many champions. his harass is certainly weak, and he can die very easily with any amount of attention.

but consider this: if u are controlling your opponents item builds with a single champion pick, you are doing something right. forcing opponents to buy banshees veils is putting a lot of gold away from more damaging items.

your ultimate also automatically gives your lane partners advantages in lane. the other team knows they cant take too many risks because your team has to do less work to get kills. and if the other team disregards your ultimate, then a risky play on their part which would normally not hurt them can turn into a lead for your team.

also hes an amazing teamfighter. probably causes the most damage of any ap carry, and if karthus can postion himself in the middle of the enemy team, turn on his e, wall, die, ult, he does MASSIVE DAMAGE to the enemy team. at that point, banshees veils are probably gone for them anyway.

banshee is a good item i guess.. but so easily removed..
 

Shaya

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he shopped that on guys.. jeebus.

nasus with 40% cdr by the 14 minute mark is pretty lulsy (boots + frozen heart)

+400 on my q by 20
+600 at the 30 minute mark.

Rest of my team was squishie and died so I had to 2v4 and win (Soraka in DA BACK)
 

fkacyan

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he shopped that on guys.. jeebus.

nasus with 40% cdr by the 14 minute mark is pretty lulsy (boots + frozen heart)

+400 on my q by 20
+600 at the 30 minute mark.

Rest of my team was squishie and died so I had to 2v4 and win (Soraka in DA BACK)
No, Shaya, he went into the AIR folder and swapped out the icon.
 
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Ok, whoever said Trundle was a good solo top is so wrong...

>:I
only watched the ending of a match where TSM lost to UNR (Crs) but rainman's trundle apparently ***** the **** out of their jax

they lost because TSM got baron stolen and reginald played like a tard and got himself killed and lost another baron

I pretty much have no clue about trundle but seems like at the very least in addition to his great chogath like passive he's a decent pick vs good number of champs
 

Vyke

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Trundle seems like a pretty solid counter to solo top AD farmers like Jax. Solo Top AP, not so much... but I don't doubt Trundle is a good solo top. Sustain through his passive is pretty underrated, ult turns lane engagements around. Does he build Wriggles?
 

Shaya

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caitlyn, taric, soraka in every

single

game.

everyisnglegame
severysinglegame
everysinglegame
every single game
everysingle game
every single gamee
every singe game
every single game
every single game
 

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Congrats on making it there :) Also, I'm watching the last game we played earlier - NICE dode on Ashe's arrow with Flash when her and her team were pushing mi tower.

haven't finished but what it's looking like is people *cough*LUX*cough* fed Mejai's Kassadin and it snowballed from there. What a shame *shrug* And nevermind Lux was a bad pick in the first place.

We should duo again sometime, twas nice having someone familiar in the game :)
[quote="Shaya, post: 13220322"]caitlyn, taric, soraka in every

single

game.

everyisnglegame
severysinglegame
everysinglegame
every single game
everysingle game
every single gamee
every singe game
every single game
every single game[/QUOTE]
You forgot Orianna. And then Akali every other.

edit: Watched more of the game. Yea, that Lux was just bad -_-

edit2: Watched even more. That Jax wasn't too bright either. The more I watch, the more I'm not surprised we lost. *sigh*[/COLOR]
 

DanGR

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I was disappointed when I saw this game after hearing about how amazing hotshot did.

For example, SK picked ******** stuff to try to counterpick Nidalee.



Edit: Now that I think about it, Europe as a whole seemed to pick stupid stuff against the American teams the entire tournament- including every time they picked kassadin and gave away orianna.
 
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going kassadin vs orianna is pretty much a death sentence

orianna had 2x kassadins cs

its no longer the era where kass counters FOTM ap carries mid

annie/malz/swain/karthus was doable


brand is very tough

orianna is hella dum
 

fkacyan

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Kass would be able to counter Ori if he could land silence and get out before she did her bull****, but her range is absolutely astounding. Coupled with needing to melee to last hit effectively...

Eh, they did say if they were going to nerf ori it would be the range on her abilities. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened in a few patches.
 

PsychoMidget

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agree 100% with johnny.

ori can harass kass before he even gets in range to Q, and when kass does ori has enough time to shield herself before Q even reaches her
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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Kass would be able to counter Ori if he could land silence and get out before she did her bull****, but her range is absolutely astounding. Coupled with needing to melee to last hit effectively...

Eh, they did say if they were going to nerf ori it would be the range on her abilities. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened in a few patches.
Wait for lvl 6
Use Rift Walk
????
Profit
 

DanGR

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lol@ Millennium borrowing the kogmaw team comp CLG just ran :p

kog
zil
cho
noc
sona
 

Shaya

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You're making the assumption you're going to be able to last hit/farm at all.

Unless you're confident in being able to get to a catalyst with just qs and his cone nuke after orianna gets to level 3.
 

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Lane swapping is smart. But it makes it hard to pick Kass in the first place (why would you pick him if he isn't going to be able to do well in his lane). And when it comes to kass, there aren't too many lanes he does win in atm. Maybe he'd do well against Jax... haha.

It's weird... he's still a team fight counter to a lot of characters out there atm... but getting from A to B is so significantly harder than with the other AP carries atm.
Ezreal's B is likely the strongest in the game, but he's one of the hardest to get there.
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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I think he can out play other AP carries, whenever I lane against Brand, and Annie, I usually win the lane. (whether that's the level of play I'm at or not I'm not sure.) So I wouldn't say he has no counter picks when he lanes.
 

Vyke

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You'd be correct in diagnosing your experience being a factor in the match-ups that you've encountered. Kass has a really poor early game regardless of who he usually fights, unless it's a Melee with no quick gap closer. This is remedied by the time you hit level 6 most of the time, especially with the help of a good jungler.

One nice thing about Kassadin is ganking his lane is usually successful. Unless he's out of mana. Shouldn't be, though, with a blue or Catalyst by the time a gank rolls around.

Or, you know, careful mana management.
 

Pikaville

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I'm awful at mana management.

Hence why I take clarity as my 2nd spell.

I find myself unable to harass my rival champion at times because I've been slaughtering too many minions with w>e.

Any tips on mana management with Brand?

Should I just be risky and buy a more mana item at the beginning?
 

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Just last hit minions with your standard attack. Note that I said last hit, not auto-attack. Use your spells almost solely to harrass, and only when you see the opportunity arise. Spells don't cause minion aggro when you hit champions with them, so it's completely to your advantage to do this; especially with a champion like Brand who literally has nothing in his skillset but damage. You'll probably notice yourself winning more in lane too if you do this.

It is easier said than done, but if you start working on it now it'll definitely be to your advantage.
 

Gifts

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I'm awful at mana management.

Hence why I take clarity as my 2nd spell.

I find myself unable to harass my rival champion at times because I've been slaughtering too many minions with w>e.

Any tips on mana management with Brand?

Should I just be risky and buy a more mana item at the beginning?
Play annie, Last hit with her Q. Theres your mana management.
 

jpak

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need ap carry that can regen v nid cuz you can only hv so much heal in the poking fights
annie is mostly burst, nid sona will heal that up, she ha low range making it hard to get to nid and cait

but i think vlad is kind of weak lol, and ive never seen regi play nid if he does well salce will lose them the match!
 
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