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Espy Rose

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It makes perfect sense to me.
You're just acting like a person who thinks they're something they're not.

Stop being so
 

Evanms

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^ All of this seems rather dramatic... If this lady-like smack talk must go on, does it really have to be in the middle of this thread?
Chilly friends.
 

Espy Rose

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I don't love Karma.
I hate Teemo.
I don't care about Pantheon.

Can it be "Everyone loves Twisted Fate's Passive"?
 

Mogwai

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I want to expect better of you, but I know not to
It makes perfect sense to me.
You're just acting like a person who thinks they're something they're not.
I'm acting like a person who thinks they're something they're not but actually is that thing. Again, refer to the Chewbacca defense, this doesn't make any sense. w/e, I'm done, I just don't think anything that has just been said makes any sense. EDIT: and if you're going to keep going with this, can you explain how I act like someone who doesn't play in tournaments but acts like he does, but secretly plays in tournaments anyway?

Evan, this is like, a 2 on the smashboards LoL scales of Drama. I don't care all that much anymore and am now just baffled at wtf people are even trying to say.

Shaya... goddamn it :laugh:

*brofist* for Pakman for loving Karma. Karma #1.
 

Espy Rose

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Mog, you're looking into it WAAAY too hard.
lol.

It doesn't matter if you really are, or aren't. Thio just thinks you're acting like it.
It's pretty easy if you just stop over analyzing every last detail.

And...this is drama?
 

Mogwai

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I want to expect better of you, but I know not to
Mog, you're looking into it WAAAY too hard.
lol.

It doesn't matter if you really are, or aren't. Thio just thinks you're acting like it.
It's pretty easy if you just stop over analyzing every last detail.

And...this is drama?
apparently this is drama, lol. I thought it was more just wasting time via arguing semantics.

But no, seriously, HOW do I act like that? what is it about the way that I act that makes that sentence make any sense? I understand what you're trying to say, but like, a qualifying factor of the comparison you're trying to make is that I don't do the thing that I act like I do. Doesn't the analogy fall apart by definition based on the fact that I do that thing? If not, I postulate that the comparison was poorly defined and that instead it should have stressed the attribute that's actually similar between I and said ficticious WoW player rather than stressing something about the two of us that is actually completely different (the acting like you go to tournaments without actually going to them point).

Mogwai I hate you. Stop being something your not and just come back into my life.
I hate you too. Maybe I'll go to a NE tournament at some point. MAYBE...

Any ideas when the NA servers are coming back online?
probably early afternoon at first and then they'll go back down and won't really be functioning until I get back from the bar tonight.
 

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@Moggy: I have no clue. Ask Thio. He's the one who made the comparison.
I'm just discussing the concept.

And to be clear, I only read like, the first ten words of your post directed towards me.

@Zac: Getting killed by creeps is the worst feeling in the world.
But there's also watching Karthus use his ult when you're at low health. Seeing TF appear during his ult for a gank. And watching yourself slowly die of poison/ignite.
 

Mogwai

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I want to expect better of you, but I know not to
yo from those buffs can panth jungle effectively now ?
Well, he always could, but it's probably a nice buff to his jungle. I'll see what I can do abusing early AD ratios and the new E CD when I get home from work, but I wouldn't get my hopes up since Pantheon has basically always had to start cloth armor and I don't think that'll change.
 

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I'm taking a break from competitive LoL because the people literally drive me crazy with how unreliable they are, not to mention that no one listens when you point out innovative strategies because they go outside the norm (I suggested a draft strategy based around picking WW 1st because I suggested that he was the most flexible pick due to his crazy strong lane matchups MONTHS before anyone in 2K was willing to try lanewick, yet my team just laughed at me and trolled me for it, then herp de derp, 2 months later, lanewick OP). I need to find the right team, but since most of the 2K+ Elo bracket seems to hate me for absolutely no reason, I'm probably just going to say **** it and accept my role as a Solo Queue Superstar. But yea, w/e, you clearly don't know what you're talking about if you say I never played tournaments.
My problem was getting people to play more than one champ :(

[yt]N-ZYbOMzbak[/yt]

Dat Janna!

The tornado at the end... I blew chunks.

EDIT: Related to PX: http://i.imgur.com/h49Ll.png
Nice to see ateam using different comps. They were going to win the game until Balis DC :(
 

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Had fun duoing with Frolossus last night, 2 wins away from exceeding 1250 elo.

Taric + Any AD with stun has always benefit from how well Taric synergizes with AD (Garen is also stupid effective with silence, but he dropped off lategame which may not be the case anymore). If his "utility" improvements help him out late game he may be pretty viable as a AD ranged + support counter bot with Taric (like how Brand has been used).

I feel I really need help understanding Lee Sin's itemization approach when jungling. He just feels so lackluster compared to Trundle. I have a lot of issues with team fights and energy so if anyone has a good idea of how I should be using him in team fights I'd appreciate it.

TL/DR: I do fine Jungling + first few ganks with Lee Sin, Drop off quickly once people have items and team fights start. Looking for pointers.
 

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What do you guys think of this new patch?

I'm really liking the Kennen buff, his ap ratios have always been lacking. But isn't Panth getting.. overbuffed?
 

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I think what they're doing for Heimer makes a lot of sense, and I've been wishing for it since the first time I ever played him.
Also YEAH NASUS BUFFS.

Kennen... unsure if it was needed. We'll see.
Panth... we'll see how that 3 hits instead of 5 works out.
 

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What do you guys think of this new patch?

I'm really liking the Kennen buff, his ap ratios have always been lacking. But isn't Panth getting.. overbuffed?
i really didnt think the kennen buff was needed.. The panth one isnt in the slightest overkill now he will have some actual presence when a fight goes down -maybe its just me but he isnt too threatening-. What I'm really loving is that Nasus buff :D
 

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Hey now. Only one time was it ME that was ganked. The other times it's other people... I just can't help them LOL.

Holy **** Atlanta's tornado, lol. Left Gbob speechless, haha.
 

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Old Spear: 228.8 damage at level 18 [187.2 at 9]
New Spear: Feasibly 225 damage at level 9 (38 more damage)

So in other words, this is an early game damage buff, but obviously "weaker" late game. BUT HOLY **** 50% more damage if they're under 15% health? ****ING AWESOME.

Now let's talk about Heartseeker Strike... [Remember this damage is doubled on champs]
Old HSS: 266 Damage @ 18 (214 @ 9) / 14 seconds [19 / 15]
New HSS: 159 Damage / 6 seconds [26.5]

So... he bursts for less now (but gosh he does it quick... .75 seconds from 1.8) but has it up again 3.5x faster. Obviously with the total damage ratio going from 1.8 from 2.0 pantheon never "overcomes" the burst difference. But this is going to be ludicrous.

@ Stun
Not sure whether I like the nerf in duration for the buffed up cd.

@ Ult
Hybrid pantheon all day.

tl;dr stronger base damages,
 

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Well, he always could, but it's probably a nice buff to his jungle. I'll see what I can do abusing early AD ratios and the new E CD when I get home from work, but I wouldn't get my hopes up since Pantheon has basically always had to start cloth armor and I don't think that'll change.
A friend of mine does jungle Panth quite often and starts with lsword + pot I believe. I wouldn't think it does too well either, but for the most part it has been pretty baller.

EDIT: Also Heimer is going to be da bess, calling it now.
 

NotDeadman

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Well, he always could, but it's probably a nice buff to his jungle. I'll see what I can do abusing early AD ratios and the new E CD when I get home from work, but I wouldn't get my hopes up since Pantheon has basically always had to start cloth armor and I don't think that'll change.
Actually, I have a fun Pantheon build for jungle! Never tried it in ranked or competitive games but it's fun as hell!
21/0/9 mastery w/ imp smite and inc buff duration
I use Full Armor pen quints 1 armor pen red, 8 flat AD red runes, flat armor yellows and full AS blues
I start with long sword and 1 pot w/ Q-E-W leveling in mind and
smite big wraith -> clear wolves -> finish wraith camp -> finish golem using smite on the first one... at this point you're level 3 so I go back and buy boots and gank a lane if not then I try to counter jungle... I get wriggles, AS boots, Brutalizer and then bloodthirsters then w/e
I think it's pretty baller and it's a good break from typical stuff
If I want to start counter jungle I get boots with 3 red pots and take enemy wraiths, clear wolves, clear your wraiths and clear golems. I pop first pot on my way back from clearing wraiths to walking to your own wolves. 2nd pot is popped after clearing wraiths and 3rd pot is popped while doing golems. I use smite on both enemy wraith and your own wraith... Then go b and get long sword and gank with Q-E-W
 

Mogwai

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Actually, I have a fun Pantheon build for jungle! Never tried it in ranked or competitive games but it's fun as hell!
21/0/9 mastery w/ imp smite and inc buff duration
I use Full Armor pen quints 1 armor pen red, 8 flat AD red runes, flat armor yellows and full AS blues
I start with long sword and 1 pot w/ Q-E-W leveling in mind and
smite big wraith -> clear wolves -> finish wraith camp -> finish golem using smite on the first one... at this point you're level 3 so I go back and buy boots and gank a lane if not then I try to counter jungle... I get wriggles, AS boots, Brutalizer and then bloodthirsters then w/e
I think it's pretty baller and it's a good break from typical stuff
If I want to start counter jungle I get boots with 3 red pots and take enemy wraiths, clear wolves, clear your wraiths and clear golems. I pop first pot on my way back from clearing wraiths to walking to your own wolves. 2nd pot is popped after clearing wraiths and 3rd pot is popped while doing golems. I use smite on both enemy wraith and your own wraith... Then go b and get long sword and gank with Q-E-W
well, thanks for posting the build, but as I suspected it's pretty suboptimal :(. backing after 3 small camps which you clear with 2 smites is no good as a good jungler will typically have a blue buff + full small camp clear at this timing and will be able to continue to stay out in the jungle. the old route I used to use with Pantheon was pretty cheesy, but had a really strong gank at level 3 going blue (smite as soon as it spawns) -> wolves -> red with a cloth + 5 opening. The double buff gank at this timing was really weird and it would catch people all the time, but basically if you didn't get a kill from that gank, you were gimped the rest of the game and if you didn't get your blue you couldn't jungle efficiently because of mana concerns. basically you needed that gank because you needed the kill gold to get madreds faster than your opponent because Pantheon is a naturally slow and mana hungry jungler.

I'll play around with stuff with this patch and I'll let you know if I find any excitingly gay gank timings, but my suspicion is that Pantheon will just be better in lane atm.

Also, for the record, your rune setup is strictly inferior to 7 ArPen Marks, 2 AD Marks, and 3 AD Quints. The setup I just stated is the same amount of ArPen with 8.65 AD as opposed to your setup's 7.6 AD.
 

NotDeadman

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well, thanks for posting the build, but as I suspected it's pretty suboptimal :(. backing after 3 small camps which you clear with 2 smites is no good as a good jungler will typically have a blue buff + full small camp clear at this timing and will be able to continue to stay out in the jungle. the old route I used to use with Pantheon was pretty cheesy, but had a really strong gank at level 3 going blue (smite as soon as it spawns) -> wolves -> red with a cloth + 5 opening. The double buff gank at this timing was really weird and it would catch people all the time, but basically if you didn't get a kill from that gank, you were gimped the rest of the game and if you didn't get your blue you couldn't jungle efficiently because of mana concerns. basically you needed that gank because you needed the kill gold to get madreds faster than your opponent because Pantheon is a naturally slow and mana hungry jungler.

I'll play around with stuff with this patch and I'll let you know if I find any excitingly gay gank timings, but my suspicion is that Pantheon will just be better in lane atm.

Also, for the record, your rune setup is strictly inferior to 7 ArPen Marks, 2 AD Marks, and 3 AD Quints. The setup I just stated is the same amount of ArPen with 8.65 AD as opposed to your setup's 7.6 AD.
D: damn that sounds alot better than my jungle panth ahaha. That double buff gank sounds so boss, I think I'll try that out when the servers are up... and yeah Panth is definitely going to be much better in lane compared to jungle
 

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I'm hoping a lot of people are realizing that Pantheon's new ratios are scaling off of bonus attack damage now, and not total. They aren't that stupid...
 

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yep, totally true. It's not like the entire first half of this year I was captaining one of the better teams on the North American Server. Totally not like that at all, thanks for telling me what's true.
How much money have you made playing LoL?
 
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