Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[PhantomX]

16-4-6 as Xin Zhao when I was top lane... against a Renekton and Blitzcrank after they killed me once at the beginning of the game. Ren made one mistake (took a couple towerhits trying to deny me) and from then on I went full on aggressive to keep one weak at all times (if not dead). Feels good, man.

Never let Zac play against other Teemos, regardless of his character.

 

[jpak]

Yeah apparently if you don't pay you get penalty points and you actually can't play in other tournies if you accumulate penalty points (6 i believe bars you from matches) and you get like 2 or 3 for each match.

 

[Virgilijus]

Never let Zac play against other Teemos, regardless of his character.

I second this.

 

[PhantomX]

@Peter - protip. Janna can't push her own teammates away. You cataclysm them and she ults, they're still trapped. You can also get into the thick of things with flag/Q before ulting, bait escapes/ultis, and THEN cataclysm. You don't ult the Janna. That's like ulting the Trundle 1v1 and trying to fight him :\

 

[Teh Brettster]

I suck at games.

 

[-Vocal-]

hotshotgg has the appropriate level of confidence I guess, without being arrogant.

This made me lol But really, he's even more arrogant than Reginald. He never blames himself for anything that goes wrong, even if he has to struggle to pin it on someone else

 

[PhantomX]

For those who don't know, the trick to beating assassin characters is to not feed them early :\ Especially if they're building stacks.

 

[john!]

the trick to beating annie and malzahar is staying at your tower so they don't flash -> ignite -> ult -> herp derp instakill you. also constantly warding bushes so they don't get a free kill every two minutes on your teammates

 

[PhantomX]

They aren't Assassins though, they don't have natural gap closers/mobility.

 

[john!]

yeah, i know. in case you couldn't tell, i am currently mad.

ALSO

why the hell does everyone say to build a void staff on karthus? not only is its effect diminished by flat magic pen runes, it's diminished by summoner's shoes and your wall ability, which are both flat reduction. void staff seems like such a waste.

 

[Vyke]

Why does it seem like a waste? The penetration just translates to more AP eitherway. Did you plan on stacking Archangels or something?

 

[Mogwai]

depends on your intended targets. void staff/last whisper should never be taken as "core" necessarily, they are items meant to counter armor/mres stacking.

 

[john!]

@vike: it's a waste because flat reduction is taken into account before percent reduction. if i have summoner's shoes, mpen marks, and wall of pain debuff, that's 65 flat mpen. assuming the target has 100 mres, the void staff only counts for 35*.4 = 14 mpen.

 

[DMG]

Maybe go flat pen route, then go void staff if they get a lot? Haunting Guise instead of Void, and if they super stack then void.

 

[M3D]

I am so bad at this game. Sorry for being a badkid tonight everyone.

 

[Vyke]

Cool stuff, I guess. I'm not sure what the problem is if you've already done the math? Just *****in' about it? Ignore'em.

At least they aren't suggesting Abyssal Scepter.

 

[UTDZac]

No biggie. I had fun watching 5 avarice blade twitch call us bad and refuse to get free barons

 

[john!]

Cool stuff, I guess. I'm not sure what the problem is if you've already done the math? Just *****in' about it? Ignore'em.

At least they aren't suggesting Abyssal Scepter.

i was half hoping one of the pros in here would give me a good reason to get void staff, so that i could improve my game.

 

[Vyke]

Pretty much what Mogwai said, then. If they're stacking MRes, Void Staff gives you the best bang for your penetrating buck.

 

[arch knight]

so i played nocturne with the wrong masteries and spells today....not the smartest thing to do...also my team couldnt speak a lick of english...fail from the start...

 

[john!]

looks like their foreign language left you... in the dark.

YEAAAHHH

 

[arch knight]

looks like their foreign language left you... in the dark.

YEAAAHHH

reminds me of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4RSx4OcMVw&feature=feedlik

 

[Zolga Owns]

So me and Fro had an amazing ranked game yesterday. My Janna + His Kat = GG other team. We were losing horribly by towers and kills but then me and him started warding and roaming together. I went 4/1/27. Had oracles all game for their twitch and saved SO MANY PEOPLE. :D He's uploading the replay soon.

 

[PhantomX]

@john - Late game people are likely to have 100+ MR anyway (on squishies) and close to 200+ on tanks. You'd get void staff primarily so you can still dish out damage to the latter. Besides, you're not going to be able to hit everyone with wall of pain, and might not even be able to hit the priority targets, which makes void staff more effective. But yeah, it's a late game item, don't bother with it til then.

 

[Shaya]

mm... I'm not sure how people do really well with irelia in solos...

I go full defensive spec (runes/masteries) yet against a vlad at level 3, his q is doing 1/4th of my health (what the ****?). Not sure how Irelia farms against harass and comes out on top....

 

[safehaven]

@Peter - protip. Janna can't push her own teammates away. You cataclysm them and she ults, they're still trapped. You can also get into the thick of things with flag/Q before ulting, bait escapes/ultis, and THEN cataclysm. You don't ult the Janna. That's like ulting the Trundle 1v1 and trying to fight him :\

i was thinking more like this:
jarvan ults ashe maybe. then janna and ashes team go to jump on jarvan while jarvans team does their stuff to ashe. Janna waits til the melee of the other team get close to ashe, shields, ashe, and ults as her team gets to jarvan. by that time u have an ulting janna shielding the carry and healing the entire team, and you have jarvan by himself with 5 champs in his face.

and in that specific match, there was also zilean waiting to negate single target focus.

long story short, I hope that janna would delay her ulti slightly until her team was ready to kill jarvan

 

[jpak]

irelia should beat vlad in lane.

you all are looking at void staff for strictly its passive. it gives ap too, 80 ap is not bad. the % reduction is good even if they dont have a lot of MR. you are only referring to their squishes when you talk about low amounts of MR, by taking out the tank that has a decent amount of MR but not too much you take away a lot of their initiation. void staff is a good item after death cap but should not be your first ap item. this is also important to make a team comp that makes sense going magic heavy = opponents stack MR.

i think guise isnt that good of an item and is a waste of a slot/gold. no point in buying an item you intend to sell eventually unless ure doing some goldtick item stacking. or forcing yourself to build for an early/mid game.

if you go one mpen quints and then sorc boots and 9 in offense, you will already have 30 mpen which equates to most squishes like ashe's base MR. so you will already be dealing essentially "true" dmg with your spells if you spec as such. this will eventually lead to them buying mr and buy that time you should hv a deathcap and be working towards a void staff. essentially you should be able to force the other team to get MR therefore void staff is a good item.

 

[PhantomX]

She waits til level 6, then goes crazy.

i was thinking more like this:
jarvan ults ashe maybe. then janna and ashes team go to jump on jarvan while jarvans team does their stuff to ashe. Janna waits til the melee of the other team get close to ashe, shields, ashe, and ults as her team gets to jarvan. by that time u have an ulting janna shielding the carry and healing the entire team, and you have jarvan by himself with 5 champs in his face.

and in that specific match, there was also zilean waiting to negate single target focus.

long story short, I hope that janna would delay her ulti slightly until her team was ready to kill jarvan

If they're using their ults and spells on Jarvan alone because he jumped their Ashe, then he's doing his job.

 

[Falcinho]

hmm with the heal of W and ult post-lvl 6 you should be fine, if you take spirit visage /HoG or lantern if needed

At least thats what i heard, i dont get to play irelia that often
I dont even get to play solo lanes like ever =(

 

[safehaven]

he might be doing his job of tanking and initiating, but he still dies.
Im just a hotshot fanboy defending him because he did the right thing.
and jumping all over the carry with a janna and zilean is ********, no matter what.
i feel like if jarvan dies though and say ashe dies too, then now janna zil team is way ahead anyway. ashe wasnt even doing that much damge, and at level 14-15 in that game, shes good for her slow, her ult, and as bait imo. i guess i think trading the weak mid game carry for the tank is a good trade, which is why i side with hotshot on this one (even though ashe would have been fine anyway)

 

[Luxor]

I finally got what I feel is enough runes to jungle with Warwick today, and it feels soooo gooood. I never realized how important a jungler actually is lol.

I'm in the SWF chat sometimes (Trigonal), and if anybody ever wants to play normals I'd love it. It's not every day I get to play with people who actually ward and speak English lol, since I'm only lvl 21.

 

[arch knight]

im level 28 right now so feel free to play with me anytime..
-now might not be the best i havent slept at all =.=
but yeah junglers are always important especially if they can appear out of nowhere.

 

[Frolossus]

So me and Fro had an amazing ranked game yesterday. My Janna + His Kat = GG other team. We were losing horribly by towers and kills but then me and him started warding and roaming together. I went 4/1/27. Had oracles all game for their twitch and saved SO MANY PEOPLE. :D He's uploading the replay soon.

part 1
http://www.own3d.tv/video/97573/Lea...507__Archive__2011-03-30_14_18_16_-_15_07_22_
part 2
http://www.own3d.tv/video/97574/Lea...507__Archive__2011-03-30_15_07_25_-_15_09_24_

crashes at the end

 

[arch knight]

Ew lag :<

 

[Frolossus]

Ew lag :<

i blame the replay

 

[arch knight]

curious are you upper or lower Peninsula Fro?

 

[Shaya]

irelia should beat vlad in lane.

You'll have to explain it to me.
I guess I should've been levelling up E first. Also a twitch gank really messed me up (double flash exhaust/ignite :'()

 

[Frolossus]

curious are you upper or lower Peninsula Fro?

lower of course

 

[Kleeck]

rankData

Saw this over at ReignofElementz and thought it was interesting.

I'm curious to any thoughts you guys might have.

 

[Virgilijus]

Listening to Athene talk to Hotshot on his stream. As much as he comes off as a pompous *** in his videos, he seemed like a normal guy curious about the game.