Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[Mogwai]

Omfg those ****ing *******s.



That wasn't a ****ing bug, that was ****ing high level playing/being good at the ****ing game. ****ing *****. all of them.
****ing burn riot.

chill out. I think you're misunderstanding the issue here. I don't think this is talking about Mystic Shot hitting invis stuff. I think it's talking about Arcane Shift (his blink) showing you when a ward is around/missing your intended target because there's a ward closer. At least that's how I read it.

EDIT: and I mostly agree with jpak, but I don't think Mundo is OP.

 

[Cia]

chill out. I think you're misunderstanding the issue here. I don't think this is talking about Mystic Shot hitting invis stuff. I think it's talking about Arcane Shift (his blink) showing you when a ward is around/missing your intended target because there's a ward closer. At least that's how I read it.

EDIT: and I mostly agree with jpak, but I don't think Mundo is OP.

Then why is teemo OP? I usually get flamed for even highlighting him. And when I carry, they say it's because the other team is stupid. and the minute I die, no one every seems surprised.. lol

 

[Mogwai]

It's hard to describe exactly, but it's basically that he's a ranged carry who:

1. offers a lot of utility in the form of map control
2. has incredibly diverse damage output (pretty even split between physical and magic damage, making him hard to itemize against)
3. is very difficult to shut down in lane and is essentially impossible to deny farm once he has a wriggle's lantern.
4. can itemize to 100+/100+ Armor/MRes without sacrificing damage output.
5. has a built in escape (move quick) that further suppliments his map control.
6. counters other ranged carries with blinding dart.

His utility in classic 5v5 teamfights is somewhat meh, but people at higher elos have learned how to play a split push game that focuses on shrooming up the jungle between towers to take towers or shrooming up the area leading to dragon/baron such that you can just snowball your team by setting up safe attempts at the team objectives. And especially with idiots grabbing way more tanky DPS than is healthy, teemo's ability to kite melee through mushrooms forever is incredibly valuable.

 

[-Vocal-]

It's hard to describe exactly, but it's basically that he's a ranged carry who:

1. offers a lot of utility in the form of map control
2. has incredibly diverse damage output (pretty even split between physical and magic damage, making him hard to itemize against)
3. is very difficult to shut down in lane and is essentially impossible to deny farm once he has a wriggle's lantern.
4. can itemize to 100+/100+ Armor/MRes without sacrificing damage output.
5. has a built in escape (move quick) that further suppliments his map control.
6. counters other ranged carries with blinding dart.

His utility in classic 5v5 teamfights is somewhat meh, but people at higher elos have learned how to play a split push game that focuses on shrooming up the jungle between towers to take towers or shrooming up the area leading to dragon/baron such that you can just snowball your team by setting up safe attempts at the team objectives. And especially with idiots grabbing way more tanky DPS than is healthy, teemo's ability to kite melee through mushrooms forever is incredibly valuable.

What's a usual Teemo build that you see?

 

[Mogwai]

open cloth + 5 hp pots

then get boots + wriggles + 0-3 d-blades depending on how tough your lane is
then get mercs + wit's end
then get bloodrazor + phage
then win the game/get frozen mallet + banshee's veil

 

[M3D]

WOW... Riot is really hard trolling with this Lee Sin stuff. They seriously didn't put him in the store. Has anyone checked the patch files to see if he's there but in hiding?

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

WOW... Riot is really hard trolling with this Lee Sin stuff. They seriously didn't put him in the store. Has anyone checked the patch files to see if he's there but in hiding?

Not being released till the 1st. Maybe. Lol

 

[Teh Brettster]

I think Executioner's Calling is slightly underused/underrated.

 

[@TKbreezy]

I still havent found a way to incorporate it into a build without thinking I'm sacrificing that spot.



it isn't a bad item though.

 

[-Vocal-]

open cloth + 5 hp pots

then get boots + wriggles + 0-3 d-blades depending on how tough your lane is
then get mercs + wit's end
then get bloodrazor + phage
then win the game/get frozen mallet + banshee's veil

Must try this some time. I wonder if Riot thinks he's a problem

 

[Mogwai]

I think Executioner's Calling is slightly underused/underrated.

it's strictly a counterpick item. just a way to cut down a mundo ult/generic irelia/WW bull****.

 

[jpak]

classick is a good player who is a new intern that helps out with balancing, i think he knows of teemo`s power

 

[Mogwai]

what is statikk's position at Riot? he's also really good.

 

[PhantomX]

hi guys alistar amumu ashe blitz cho jarvan malz renekton ryze teemo urgot are op. may be mundo too. not going to explain though

Sweet, I play 4 OP characters!

The amount of utility/damage most of these characters bring while being super survivable is kind of ridiculous, though, I agree.

 

[-Vocal-]

Sweet, I play 4 OP characters!

The amount of utility/damage most of these characters bring while being super survivable is kind of ridiculous, though, I agree.

I play 4, that makes me happy. <3 Mumu, Ashe, and Ryze (he's my favorite )

 

[Mogwai]

Jarman is pretty underrated atm, I'm not sure why people don't understand how crazy strong he is.

 

[UTDZac]

open cloth + 5 hp pots

then get boots + wriggles + 0-3 d-blades depending on how tough your lane is
then get mercs + wit's end
then get bloodrazor + phage
then win the game/get frozen mallet + banshee's veil

I've been opening with Boots + 3 pots (also running 3 MS quints). I have 371 move speed, which allows me to harass really well. If I want to hit them I will, they can't run away. and 3 pots is usually enough to survive til i can back to get wriggles.

 

[-Vocal-]

Jarman is pretty underrated atm, I'm not sure why people don't understand how crazy strong he is.

I saw Hotshot build (iirc) straight up tank, get red buff, then practically 1v5 an entire team. His team was there, but he was the one dealing the major damage. I just think a lot of people haven't learned how to tap into his potential yet

In other news, someone made a post on the LoL forums about giving Ryze the ability to damage towers (right now he does pretty much no damage due to having no AD or AP) and making his ultimate better. Dear god if that ever happened people would never shut up and he'd be nerfed immediately

 

[Mogwai]

I've been opening with Boots + 3 pots (also running 3 MS quints). I have 371 move speed, which allows me to harass really well. If I want to hit them I will, they can't run away. and 3 pots is usually enough to survive til i can back to get wriggles.

the problem is that teemo's range isn't good enough to harass without trading. that movespeed is irrelevant when your attack range is lower than most nukes/jumps as they can still trade if they want to.

I saw Hotshot build (iirc) straight up tank, get red buff, then practically 1v5 an entire team. His team was there, but he was the one dealing the major damage. I just think a lot of people haven't learned how to tap into his potential yet

In other news, someone made a post on the LoL forums about giving Ryze the ability to damage towers (right now he does pretty much no damage due to having no AD or AP) and making his ultimate better. Dear god if that ever happened people would never shut up and he'd be nerfed immediately

yea, pretty much. I like building ghostblade, but essentially you can build wriggle's -> straight tank and be untouchable with him and still hit like a ****ing truck.

 

[PhantomX]

Hotshot's Jarvan isn't that great, to be honest. Saw him play it in tournament. He doesn't have good Cataclysm usage (uses it to initiate on characters with blinks or Jannas rather than initiate with flag and shield and then ult after Flashes and Blinks are on CD), and doesn't take advantage of the fact that Jarvan is super strong in lane and plays passively when he can be using Q to both farm and harass at the same time because of its stupid speed and range.

Jarvan is stupidly strong though, for sure. I also don't get why no one complains about him. I am a fan of Wriggle's and straight tank, with another damage item late game.

 

[Mogwai]

Hotshot's Jarvan isn't that great, to be honest. Saw him play it in tournament. He doesn't have good Cataclysm usage (uses it to initiate on characters with blinks or Jannas rather than initiate with flag and shield and then ult after Flashes and Blinks are on CD), and doesn't take advantage of the fact that Jarvan is super strong in lane and plays passively when he can be using Q to both farm and harass at the same time because of its stupid speed and range.

Jarvan is stupidly strong though, for sure. I also don't get why no one complains about him. I am a fan of Wriggle's and straight tank, with another damage item late game.

it depends on what your team needs. he's incredibly flexible, in that his base damage is high enough that he's scary building straight tank and his scaling is good enough that he can play AD carryish with offensive items. he's just a crazy strong character. and all his abilities are good. I honestly can never make up my mind what the right skill order is because they're all so strong.

 

[PhantomX]

Yeah, though I've started taking Q and Flag and getting shield last, because it's not all that great until you have some defensive items (aside from for the slow)/stats. If I'm planning on ganking or teamfights/ganks are happening earlyish I'll take one level in it early, otherwise I'll just skip it til late.

 

[@TKbreezy]

@Jpak and Mogwai

So I followed a little bit of your advice (both of you for Irelia)

I now start with E if we going to go for a jungle gank...otherwise start with Q

Q E W W W R Q W Q W then alternate between Q and E maxing Q first

early game true damage does leet deeps...I was bursting down this mundo in my lane which was almost impossible before for me. and that added Q damage from getting a levels in Q helps for putting in damage and getting gap closer kills at the same time.

I still go heart of gold instead of wriggles because for some reason I always seem to die more with Wriggles...lol I think my last games build was

cloth + 5 pots -> HoG -> boots1 -> brutalizer -> Sheen -> yoomuu -> zeal -> triforce. -> randiun

now 2 questions

bloodthirster any good on irelia? (maybe even starks fevor)

and

Armor Pen + move Speed + attack speed runes? any good?

 

[Mogwai]

Well the thing is that they're all helpful for his team. Flag gives an aura, spear reduces armor, shield is an AoE slow. They're all great. I find my lane presence is best with QEQWQR-> R > Q > E > W, but W might be his best teamfight skill and E is definitely his best team pushing/team dragoning skill. I dunno, it's just my inner pantheon talking when I build him as an early game nuker with Q and E maxed and a ghostblade, but he can be downright abusive with a fast sunfire in early teamfights too. w/e, great ****ing character, I <3 him incredibly hard.

EDIT: @ TKBro, no idea man, that's really far off of my Irelia build, .

I run 0/21/9

ASpeed Reds
Dodge Yellows
MRes Blues
HP/5 Quints

Cloth + 5
Boots
Sheen
Wriggle's
Mercs
Triforce
GA + Banshee's

Q at level 1
W and E at levels 2 and 3 on as needed basis
QQ at 4 and 5
R at 6
R > E > W > Q from there.

 

[@TKbreezy]

what is your irelias purpose on a team? because that looks rather tanky. if I do say so myself

where is the damage?

 

[Mogwai]

in my abilities. W -> Q -> E -> R + ignite still tears carries a new ******* and once carries are killed Irelia outlasts other tanks with her crazy innate lifestealing + true damage.

 

[arch knight]

WOW... Riot is really hard trolling with this Lee Sin stuff. They seriously didn't put him in the store. Has anyone checked the patch files to see if he's there but in hiding?

If you watched the spotlight for him they clearly state hes being Delayed to April first...

 

[PhantomX]

And most importantly, her stupid CC reduction.

 

[Evanms]

hi guys alistar amumu ashe blitz cho jarvan malz renekton ryze teemo urgot are op. may be mundo too. not going to explain though

Nunu, if your pro.

 

[M3D]

Get reported, KevinM... thanks for turning a free win into a loss.

 

[Evanms]

Get reported, KevinM... thanks for turning a free win into a loss.

What happened? 55 minuet drag solo?

 

[Kleeck]

Get reported, KevinM... thanks for turning a free win into a loss.

Do elaborate!

Also, did you REALLY report him?!

 

[Cactuar]

I've actually never played a game with KevinM that didn't end in me reporting him...

 

[PhantomX]

I've actually never played a game with KevinM that didn't end in me reporting him...

This is different though... they're not reporting him to the police in this case.

 

[Evanms]

^lol! He sounds unsavoury.

 

[-Vocal-]

What happened? 55 minuet drag solo?

At least I learned my lesson...

 

[Evanms]

<3 vox! Anytime ask me for a game and as long as I'm not in a 5 I'll play. I allways see you solo queuing and I'm like ugh ask to play with us.

 

[Kleeck]

Not sure if any of you Smashers are familiar with Athene. He is a world-class WoW player, known for his 1337 Pally skillz, specifically in PvP. He also hit #1 on the Starcraft 2 boards recently and has announced coming to LoL.

This could be an epic development for the LoL community...

If you don't know who he is, get acquainted.

ROFL.

 

[Mogwai]

sigh... the LoL forums are already blowing up with Athene drama. I'm still pretty shocked that anyone cares.

 

[M3D]

I love this guy. He's so arrogant its amazing. He's got tiger blood and adonis DNA. He's the Charlie Sheen of PC Gaming. Love it so much. I can't wait to see him start streaming LoL.