Hot_ArmS
Smash Hero
For whoever actually cares about lcs you guys wanna do fantasy draft tonight?
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Slush- So basically, people hate C9 because they're not douches like half of TSM, and their owner doesn't market them as much as TSM.
P3- I agree she's sub par without her ult but her base stats are pretty decent. Her AD will be higher than any other AD champ with the same items because of W (taking W at level 1 will put you on around 90 AD), and her health regen is good because of her passive.
Btw I just wanna confirm that for scaling purposes, stat gains per level are considered base and not bonus. So for example a spell that scales of purely bonus AD will not scale off the AD that is gained per level up. Conversely, the Trinity Force passive will scale off AD gain per level up, because it's 200% of base AD. Just wanted to make sure that's correct.
P3- I agree she's sub par without her ult but her base stats are pretty decent. Her AD will be higher than any other AD champ with the same items because of W (taking W at level 1 will put you on around 90 AD), and her health regen is good because of her passive.
Btw I just wanna confirm that for scaling purposes, stat gains per level are considered base and not bonus. So for example a spell that scales of purely bonus AD will not scale off the AD that is gained per level up. Conversely, the Trinity Force passive will scale off AD gain per level up, because it's 200% of base AD. Just wanted to make sure that's correct.
a HP regen fiora build sounds amusing
I want to try it
Hydra, Warmogs, SV, Randuins, BotRK, Mercs/tabi
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I want to try it
Hydra, Warmogs, SV, Randuins, BotRK, Mercs/tabi
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swordsaint
Smash Master
Don't pretend you haven't already.
please be nice to me
My aram fiora builds literally bring all the boys to the yard.
Tiamat/Last Whisper/Visage+FH -> rambo in -> kill 4 people probably -> die -> spawn -> ults back up
Tiamat/Last Whisper/Visage+FH -> rambo in -> kill 4 people probably -> die -> spawn -> ults back up
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Zano
Smash Master
can't jax dodge all of fiora's ult?
Jax >>>>>> Fiora
If only she had cc, an escape, and free defensive stats for no reason like jax, then she might be as good as him.
Jax >>>>>> Fiora
If only she had cc, an escape, and free defensive stats for no reason like jax, then she might be as good as him.
That's why you just ban Jax, like everyone is doing anyway.
She has invincibility, which is better than defensive stats in most scenarios. Her lack of escape is only really a big deal in lane. In teamfights you'll kill the carry (and anyone standing next to them) before you take damage, and you can probably fight anyone else remaining, unless it's like Jax or something. Even if you die after killing the carry, that's probably still a worth trade.
Fiora's ult is effectively a personal CC anyway, because you're damaging people that can't escape or damage you in return. That's basically what CC is used for. I say 'personal' because it doesn't prevent them from attacking your teammates (unless you kill them). You could always build mallet and get an AoE slow though lol.
On another note, what do people think of Zed jungle. I know Diamond did it one game, think they lost though. He strikes as me one of the junglers who could get away with going ignite over flash because he's pretty slippery to begin with.
She has invincibility, which is better than defensive stats in most scenarios. Her lack of escape is only really a big deal in lane. In teamfights you'll kill the carry (and anyone standing next to them) before you take damage, and you can probably fight anyone else remaining, unless it's like Jax or something. Even if you die after killing the carry, that's probably still a worth trade.
Fiora's ult is effectively a personal CC anyway, because you're damaging people that can't escape or damage you in return. That's basically what CC is used for. I say 'personal' because it doesn't prevent them from attacking your teammates (unless you kill them). You could always build mallet and get an AoE slow though lol.
On another note, what do people think of Zed jungle. I know Diamond did it one game, think they lost though. He strikes as me one of the junglers who could get away with going ignite over flash because he's pretty slippery to begin with.
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I mentioned that already lol.
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Have never seen Zed as a jungler. Only like twice, and it went bad, Preseason btw. No FF yet.
Not even when he was released.
Have never seen Zed as a jungler. Only like twice, and it went bad, Preseason btw. No FF yet.
Not even when he was released.
When I started playing in S3, jungle was considered Zed's second position. He was considered an off-jungler, but still more conventional than something like Karthus or Karma.
I just got Zed and I'm trying to learn to play him. I feel like my ult never does any damage, probably because I botch my combo. Is it necessary to use your W's mimmicked casts in your ult? Or is it acceptable to just use it as a gapcloser and rely on the ult shadow.
I just got Zed and I'm trying to learn to play him. I feel like my ult never does any damage, probably because I botch my combo. Is it necessary to use your W's mimmicked casts in your ult? Or is it acceptable to just use it as a gapcloser and rely on the ult shadow.
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no, you took zed top or mid
jungle was just the thing everyone does with new champs
"JUNGLE BRAUM HAS CC, MUST BE GOOD I HAVE TO DO IT"
"JUNGLE THRESH HAS CC, MUST BE GOOD I HAVE TO DO IT"
"JUNGLE NAMI HAS CC, MUST BE GOOD I HAVE TO DO IT"
not even kidding with the last one. I had someone jungle with her on release.
jungle was just the thing everyone does with new champs
"JUNGLE BRAUM HAS CC, MUST BE GOOD I HAVE TO DO IT"
"JUNGLE THRESH HAS CC, MUST BE GOOD I HAVE TO DO IT"
"JUNGLE NAMI HAS CC, MUST BE GOOD I HAVE TO DO IT"
not even kidding with the last one. I had someone jungle with her on release.
have fun being invaded by level 2 support janna and dying to her
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I see Zed jungle somewhat often, and Ive seen jungle Nami a few times, its not horrible but its not the best.
Havent seen Thresh/Braum jungle yet.
Havent seen Thresh/Braum jungle yet.
teluoborg
Smash Otter
What do you want, it's just Phreak's legacy.
"Even though Lulu is a good support and a decent mid, I play her in the jungle."
-Phreak, 2012
I actually tried jungle Thresh back in the days when his Q passive was actually on his Q, that's when I learned the importance of clear speed. I also played some Thresh adc before the AA range nerf and some top Thresh too, actually I think there was a time when I only played Thresh. I regret nothing.
Pretty sure Janna can't kill Rumble at level 2 lol. Also the 'you're vulnerable to invades' logic applies to a lot of used junglers. That's how junglers are balanced. Usually the ones that are vulnerable to early invades scale well by having great teamfight presence (Amumu, Fiddle, Maokai etc.). A lot junglers that aren;t as vulnerable early like Lee Sin and Elise still have presence later, but not as much, and generally aren't considered to scale well into lategame.
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Zano
Smash Master
p3 showed me the light that is Braum jungle, **** is op
Zano
Smash Master
no **** you I said op
Seeing Alliance dumpster Fnatic with a sweet Thresh + Lulu + Kog comp makes me both happy and sad.
Happy because I absolutely love protect the Kog comps, sad because sheeple are probably going to start (and fail) playing Kog now.
Happy because I absolutely love protect the Kog comps, sad because sheeple are probably going to start (and fail) playing Kog now.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I welcome scrub Kogs, let the free bot lanes commence!
So why did Wu stop getting played in the jungle? Was it the slight nerfs or a meta shift.
Also, can someone explain to me why some high elo Wus take E at level 1 against melees in lane. I've always taken Q against melees unless they have an auto block like Panth or Fiora. Q has higher damage at level 1 and doesn't commit you into their minion wave. So why do some people prefer starting E.
Also, can someone explain to me why some high elo Wus take E at level 1 against melees in lane. I've always taken Q against melees unless they have an auto block like Panth or Fiora. Q has higher damage at level 1 and doesn't commit you into their minion wave. So why do some people prefer starting E.
Out play/mind game potential. If they waste their ability on your clone, you can out trade.
E is the nimbus strike.
Usually for more attack speed and it's better to max both in the jungle and lane. Q damage isn't very high when you're maxing it, just keep it at one and enjoy the armor reduction.
Usually for more attack speed and it's better to max both in the jungle and lane. Q damage isn't very high when you're maxing it, just keep it at one and enjoy the armor reduction.
Oh, derp.
Well I thought it was standard to max nimbus anyway. But that ability is hitting multiple things (push), and getting to level 2 is important, and also having early lane control (it pushing/more creeps on your side than theirs meaning any auto attack trades are in your favour). Although probably not universal at this point, attack speed is/was the most efficient damage increase for every auto attacking character in the game at level 1 (at least for jungle creeps).
Well I thought it was standard to max nimbus anyway. But that ability is hitting multiple things (push), and getting to level 2 is important, and also having early lane control (it pushing/more creeps on your side than theirs meaning any auto attack trades are in your favour). Although probably not universal at this point, attack speed is/was the most efficient damage increase for every auto attacking character in the game at level 1 (at least for jungle creeps).
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ITT: Making stuff up
TWO WUKONGS?
Slush- I wasn't talking about maxing it, I was talking about taking it at level 1. It just always seemed to be to logical option for me against melees because it has more damage at level 1 and outranges auto attacks, meaning they have to extend further into your minions if they want to auto you.
I've taken E at level 1 against melees if they get to lane late from leashing so I can push their wave into tower though.
I've taken E at level 1 against melees if they get to lane late from leashing so I can push their wave into tower though.
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There's little point to taking Q or E level 1, really. Although if you had to choose, definitely E. Even with the armor reduction, unless the enemy is absolutely brainless, you're getting nothing out of level 1 Q that's significant. 
You're suggesting to take W at level 1 in lane? Why? I've never seen a high elo player do that.
Also you don't consider the extra damage of level 1 Q and the extra safety over E significant? The pen is pointless because it shreds like 2 armour at that stage of the game but the difference in damage is surely significant.
Also you don't consider the extra damage of level 1 Q and the extra safety over E significant? The pen is pointless because it shreds like 2 armour at that stage of the game but the difference in damage is surely significant.
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Yeh---No~
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teluoborg
Smash Otter
So Cho Gath with aspd quints is pretty fun, and they're buffing his ult on top of that.
Also
SashiNami confirmed for her next skin.
Also
SashiNami confirmed for her next skin.
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lol