Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[JTB]

braums trade potential is ****ing insane

 

[Asdioh]

How to counter jungle malzahar:
1. Walk into his jungle and kill him
2. ????

That's something I don't get about Malz.

You can't build tank, because you die. You can't build damage, because you die.

What is his weakness outside of no mobility? Oh and QSS single handedly counters his kit.

I have seen enough Singed/Garen/Renektons etc to know that no, unless they're behind or you're ahead, you CAN'T 100-0 them, despite being supposedly the best tank melter in the game. Even with void staff, deathcap, liandrys, it's still extremely hard to tank down the beefiest champs.


Braum looks pretty darn good. I'm waiting until he's 6300 to buy him, 'cause despite all the playing I've done in the past >2 years, there are still 30-something champions I don't own. #p2w

 

[Ussi]

Counter jungling isn't that effective especially in solo queue where your laners won't always back you up in defending. Plus you have to help your laners if need be. If they all win lane, you crushing malz in the jungle is just icing on the cake then.

New supports always OP (except for Nami), nothing new to hear here.


Malz won't 1 shot a tank, but he does around 50-75% of their HP while suppressing them and and usually they are the ones with the CC to stop you in the first place so they are just sitting ducks for the adc to finish off easily.

 

[Shaya]

I get away with building tanks on malzahar.
heu.

 

[Asdioh]

Malzahar

• Nether Grasp [ R ] - Now costs 100 Mana (Down from 150 Mana)

pbe notes. I'm hype, I might finally be able to buy non-mana items and not regret it! His Q and W mana costs were lowered a long time ago, but he still eats through mana so fast. I've missed out on early game kills plenty of times because I didn't have enough mana. I just wonder why there are always a bunch of patches in between the "modernization" of mana-intensive older champions. I don't see why they can't just look through a list of champions that have like, 150 mana cost on ults, and just lower them all.

Also Soraka nerfs on pbe :3

 

[KuroganeHammer]

sorka nerfs are dumb

"LeBlanc and Lulu are a problem?

Better nerf Sorka!"

 

[Sinister Slush]

They're looking into how to nerf Leblanc while still keeping her the way she is, while Soraka/Nid have the same no counterplay options outside of "make jungler pitch 10 tents mid lane before they hit 6" Which doesn't work more than half the time.

Mostly mentioning nid along with soraka cuz they have heals that negate the damage u did to them while leblanc at least has to chug potions.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

that's just the nature of supports

"We want these champions to get no gold, so let's make them efficient without items! MAN I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GIVE THEM ITEMS."

The sorka nerfs are just random. Like the E costing mana on enemy cast when you only use it for silence occasionally anyway. These nerfs will hurt support sorka more than mid lane sorka.

 

[Sinister Slush]

I never played Soraka once, I'm pure. But if what I read days ago is true, that annoys me even more. No mana cost 3 second silence on enemies with a decent amount of range.
Mid or support, that's pretty dumb. Even then if you're Soraka bot lane as support when the likes of leona thresh morg and now Braum exist, you're asking to lose your lane unless you have caitlyn or something.

Basically, why play soraka bot when you can do her mid and give even bigger heals lategame lol. Just have one of the 4 I mentioned do support instead if I was to play a ranked game with soraka.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Infuse starts at 1.5 seconds and goes to 2.5. The ability is balanced in that it does literally zero damage.

Here's how they should fix sorka mid:

Make Q deal 66% damage to minions.

Tadah! Riot, send me my paycheck within 14 days please. ty ty

 

[Ussi]

I won't mind Soraka Q nerfs, if they would being back her MR aura for it. I'm all for AP soraka turning into tankraka

 

[Player-3]

i wouldnt mind soraka q nerfs if they also included passive w e and r nerfs, alon with some nerfs to her base stats and maybe deleting her from the game completely

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I realized when I was playing league with Shaya last night that I can play really badly and like a ****** sometimes

I am probably being judged.

 

[Zano]

Ore ga sabaku!

 

[Shaya]

I used to main old master yi.
I know what you're doing and why you're doing it, because its actually feasible to win playing like that.

Doesn't mean you have to play like that though

 

[Z'zgashi]

^ This is the evasive way of saying he thinks you suck ;D

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I don't actually suck and he probably knows this

but sometimes

I do really silly things

"Aero, all 5 of them are over there."

"I... I must 1 vs 5! IF I FLASH INTO THE ENEMY TEAM. I WILL SURPRISE THEM WITH MY DECISION."

 

[Dre89]

Were you playing Fiora? That is the key to you playing well.

Speaking of Fiora, at first I was annoyed about her rework, because she's so easy to carry with at the moment due to the fact that she's just stats with no mechanical requirement. Guinsoo even said she's just a "ball of stats" with invulnerability, and that you play her by mashing the keyboard as fast as you can lol. But now that I'm using other champs to carry myself I'm happy that she's getting reworked. Once she gets reworked it looks like she'll actually require mechanics in teamfights, so I don't lose games to random Fioras who just get a hydra then press R and get a quadra.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Guys, I'm kinda embracing a tiny bit of cancer.
A small tumor if you will developing in my champion pool. Been playing nothing but Kha'zix Jungle and either kayle mid to test out runann's build that's been floating around fer awhile now or doing liss/zed top.

First two are the tumors, not lissandra or Zed. I need to get back into ranked and hit D1 or something before season ends.

 

[Dre89]

Kayle is so OP I don't know why she isn't played more. Her kit has literally everything except for mobility, and she's impossible to kill if she gets fed.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Lich bane nerfs, Q nerfs. About it.
People been going hurricane for sustained damage in teamfights but it does less damage to the person you're aiming at while the splash does more somehow.

 

[Asdioh]

Kayle is so OP I don't know why she isn't played more. Her kit has literally everything except for mobility, and she's impossible to kill if she gets fed.

Her speed is actually stupid now if she builds enough AP because riot inexplicably made it scale. I permaban Kayle (when I remember to)
Even though she's so OP and easy to use, I can't seem to do well with her, so I just ban her :3 she's also boring as nuts to play as or against, so there's that.
I also ban Jax, Nidalee, and Soraka. And Khazix. And Evelynn maybe. And basically all the OP stuff, nerf pls

 

[Ussi]

9-1 in placement matches, get gold II

guess this season i try for plat

 

[Asdioh]

5-5 in placement matches, got gold 2

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Zano]

2-0 in placement matches

I should probably play more

 

[Ussi]

5-5 in placement matches, got gold 2

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I was Silver II end of season III

 

[Sinister Slush]

8-2 put me in Plat 3 back then.

 

[Dre89]

Her speed is actually stupid now if she builds enough AP because riot inexplicably made it scale. I permaban Kayle (when I remember to)
Even though she's so OP and easy to use, I can't seem to do well with her, so I just ban her :3 she's also boring as nuts to play as or against, so there's that.
I also ban Jax, Nidalee, and Soraka. And Khazix. And Evelynn maybe. And basically all the OP stuff, nerf pls

I ban Jax everytime. I used to ban Renekton if I wanted to go top but now I don't because I'm learning how to survive the lane (basically bait out and juke his Qs). I'm starting to ban Yas now instead of Yi. I should ban Kayle more.


Now that I decided I wanted to carry games I'm climbing pretty rapidly and I'm back at the MMR where Amunu and Blitz don't get banned every game.

 

[Asdioh]

Yeah, I just lost a game that we clearly should have won because I didn't ban Jax. I listened to our adc and banned Thresh instead, then Jax farmed jungle all game while we were winning lanes, then it reached lategame and our advantage was gone and he could 1v5 because balance :x

2-1 in promos pls win this one


http://i.imgur.com/OiyMuDo.png

first pick Hydra Katarina for my legitimate victory into Diamond

 

[john!]

grats asdioh.

too bad nothing will ever ever convince me that malzahar is a good champion

 

[Shaya]

how's playing mana pool-less ? :o

too bad nothing will ever ever convince me that malzahar is a good champion

entire team fights won with a single [non-ultimate] ability. Not enough characters left with one of those that aren't new with blatantly overloaded kits.

 

[Dre89]

I'm sort of confused by how QSS counters Malz. I thought his ult was a suppression, which meant you can't cast anything at all, including item actives and summoner spells.

Edit- Turns out it can be activated during suppression. Doesn't that like, completely defeat the purpose of it being a suppression.

 

[Shaya]

Yes.

Back in my day, they used to be considered regular stuns reduced by tenacity and were cleansable (the summoner spell). They removed the two independently.

It does, kinda.
But apparently its a necessary evil.

 

[Dre89]

Well to be fair suppressions are still not reducable by tenacity and block all other casts. Are Malz and WW ults the only suppressions?

 

[Shaya]

urgot.

That's it I think.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Skarner....
Nobody but me remembers him.

After a week or two of waiting for duo to play ranked to give me a reason to play league, (been playing lately just to test nerfed kha'zix jung and runann's kayle build in solo queue) finally just played on my own yesterday and got to D4 in 8 games.
God sometimes these games are a hassle, from my lane losing to trist support cause no ganks, poppy jungle making our bot lane both die and herself cause she tried to steal panth blue at level 2, or just me and hopefully one other person making a million pings and making calls not to make dumb calls since we're behind in most of my wins then we win later on cause they start throwing.

Only game I can think of us just winning is my kayle one where I farmed all game and ganked once lol. Didn't think I'd play kayle, especially in the jungle since kha'zix was banned.

 

[Player-3]

vi ult technically suppresses you while you're in the air

 

[john!]

^ in that case wouldn't all knock-ups count as suppression?

 

[Player-3]

no vi's ult is a suppression for some reason

 

[Asdioh]

grats asdioh.

too bad nothing will ever ever convince me that malzahar is a good champion

Malzahar Q does more damage than an Orianna ultimate, while attached to the longest silence in the game, in aoe.

how's playing mana pool-less ? :o

Obviously worked that game. I still build RoA against champs I need to survive burst (like Leblanc) but overall, games have been getting harder and I can't carry without TONS OF DAMAGE early on. Haunting Guise rush seems to work very well. The mana on RoA is so nice but the damage lategame just isn't enough.
Also if I get blue I'm fine, but lately junglers have been greedy and I find myself getting no blues. My loss rate has gone up a lot lately, I can no longer stomp games like I could in upper gold/lower plat.

I'm sort of confused by how QSS counters Malz. I thought his ult was a suppression, which meant you can't cast anything at all, including item actives and summoner spells.

Edit- Turns out it can be activated during suppression. Doesn't that like, completely defeat the purpose of it being a suppression.

It's funny, if Riot were to delete QSS today, Malzahar's pick rate would probably go up quite a bit, but I have seen QSS built maybe 3 times in over 70 games.


I'm just glad I can take a break from ranked, I'm gonna start practicing more champions with the power of teambuilder ^_^