Lovage
Smash Hero
new ashe animations are SO BADDDDD WHYYYYYYYYYYY
rest of the graphical update looks great
rest of the graphical update looks great
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falls off in teamfights and late game
same with lee sin, people misunderstand because these champions get fed in solo q because they have strong lane phase. any champion that is fed looks good, if these 2 champs are not fed they fall off significantly
sej is actually worse than people think she is, she is not just bad, she is absolute garbage
teemo is picked too often to not be overrated
taric has been gaining traction indeed
nasus' teamfight is incredibly strong
never seen anyone pick nasus to counter yorick, have no experience with it
>Implying that stealing blue isn't an enterprise against a good team that committed to picking Anivia.
Xaltis
Smash Hero
Wow, all the new Ashe models and animations look A LOT BETTER! Also the 3 new skins are amazing too. I was wondering when Swain would get a new skin.
Frolossus
Smash Lord
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2120982
it wasn't taken down, udyr just posted it to the announcement section accidentally when it should have been in the PBE forums
til the rest of the world magically can mimic froggen with 100% success anivia is fine
teluoborg
Smash Otter
I'll miss the fugly pink shopkeeper :I
Never forget.
Never forget.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
People say Riven is broken but every time I watch a stream, tournament, or high elo spectator match Riven is losing :|||||
Completely anecdotal but man for all this kvetching you'd think I'd see this ***** win something.
Also I just got on the PBE to try out all of the new eye candy, and the new SR looks really great and runs a lot better. You can't see much in the screenshots they provided, but the textures are much more detailed and the color palette is less bright while maintaining the same flavor as before. Really nice.
Video comparison here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsdQ3FG2ojA
TIL the inability of a large amount of people to play a character to maximum capacity makes it suddenly not an overpowered character.
Riven is a solo queue and snowballing beast.
I agree that Lee Sin is overrated a bit, but not nearly as much as Olaf. His extreme mobility keeps him relatively relevant in lategame and he has an AS reduction and repositioning skill (unlike Olaf who 100% drops off).
Solo queue has a lot of throwing/getting picked off, not to mention some teams have a lot of late-game dominant champs so if it drags on those start winning.
Also, if every lane was winning but enemy bot lane was dominating, enemy will likely win if they keep the carry alive.
Also, if every lane was winning but enemy bot lane was dominating, enemy will likely win if they keep the carry alive.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
I don't think anyone disagrees that they fall off, it's just that they're so good and such safe picks during the laning phase.
Lee sin literally excells at everything in the jungle which makes him amazing at snowballing your entire team. The fact that he doesn't fall off that hard and his q is amazing on drag and baron is a bonus.
Udyr imo falls off more, still a great defensive tank line because of his disruption, the thing is, he's abusive when he gets ahead and there are reletively few MUs he doesn't crush or at least tie.
IMO, you lose laning phase (especially top lane) you've not only given up kills, you've given up a ton of farm. That's why safe abusive characters are so powerful imo.
Granted, a strong jungler can definitely cover for a laner that would normally lose the MU. Also certain teamcomps definitely are good at stalling and not giving too much of an advantage and then shining in lategame.
Honestly, why? She seems ok, around the level of jungle shen or jax, her main problem is that "whatever you wanna do, there's multiple other junglers that are better at it".
Everyone plays teemo cause he's adorable, nobody thinks he's actually good.
I see him a lot, doesn't really mesh with me tbh though.
Definitely once you hit lategame, wither combined with aoe armor reduction and those deeps.
I've come to the conclusion that yorick really can't force nasus out of lane (if you keep level parity) because, his spells might do a fair amount of damage, but they give him something he can lifesteal from without pushing his lane, plus a consolation syphoning strike target. Then around level 8 his syphoning strike should be farmed enough that you can eat him or force him out of lane consistently. Probably earlier for people who more efficient at Q farming.
Carnivalmar
Smash Rookie
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Alot of those late game champs like nasus and ad sion are easy to shut down early game. If a team sucks so much that they cant even shut down an ad sion and make him completely useless then they deserve to lose anyways.
And yes, it's true that the enemy team would win if they kept their fed carry alive- but if every single one of their lanes are losing except their bot, then I doubt that they would be skilled enough to keep their carry alive anyways.
I've only been in a game with two sejuanis and I actually thought she was pretty good. Her team fight presence in particular. She doesnt deal out large amounts of damage, but she can really annoy you with her aoe cc while being difficult to kill and just give you a miserable time.I've personally had a ton of success with jungle Sejuani, to be honest.
Just me though. I find her ganks absolutely incredible, especially after Level 6.
Twitch is similar to anivia in some ways. IMO, twitch excels more in premade 5s than in soloqueue. Both heroes are very team dependent and require excellent positioning. And you're right, his q does give him a 90% AS steroid.
Nope. Fiora has a better AS steroid.
Cia
das kwl
i love the new ashe animations. And the new Summoner's RIft O_O
mildly distracting. but amazing.
also, they finally gave amethyst ashe purple ice. Like i always thought she'd have.
Also. It is IMPOSSIBLE to run out of mana with Athene's holy grail. Go Ahead. try.
Sejuani is very good against a predominately melee team that is short on targeted gap closers. 70% ms reduction makes it hard as hell for the bruisers to reach their targets. However, that situation isn't exatcly commonplace, lol.
I wonder if Athene's Holy Grail will make super mana hungry casters any better...
/Ziggs favorite AP in game
I feel op as Blue buff Ziggs, even moreso than other Blue buff casters. Without it... not so much.
/Ziggs favorite AP in game
I feel op as Blue buff Ziggs, even moreso than other Blue buff casters. Without it... not so much.
I argue that Warwick actually has the best AS steroid. 80% for 10 seconds, 16 second base CD with utility to teammates is way stronger than 120% for 3 seconds, 11 second base CD or 90% for 7 seconds, 20 second base CD. I'd also say Fiora's is weaker than Trist's, 30% more AS with considerably less uptime isn't worth it, especially considering that Fiora's Melee Range and can just be CCed for the duration of her steroid.
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Teh Brettster
Smash Master
I use Nasus to "counter" Yorick
Other people don't believe me, but run 0/23/7, run teleport, and rush Philo... you'll survive.
I don't think Ziggs is as desperately mana hungry as some people say. Using his passive for harass where available (his auto range is crazy good), I have become good at managing mana and still farming/harassing decently well.
But I agree-- add a blue buff and it's like Christmas, because then you hardly have to think about conserving.
Other people don't believe me, but run 0/23/7, run teleport, and rush Philo... you'll survive.
I don't think Ziggs is as desperately mana hungry as some people say. Using his passive for harass where available (his auto range is crazy good), I have become good at managing mana and still farming/harassing decently well.
But I agree-- add a blue buff and it's like Christmas, because then you hardly have to think about conserving.
Ziggs is SUPER mana hungry. Not necessarily in lane, but in prolonged standoffs/poke fights? Most definitely. And in that regard I don't think Athene's would help, since that's good for engages (most of the bonus mana is from the kills/assists).
Lovage
Smash Hero
new ashe is ****ing abysmal **** yall
Boofy!
Smash Champion
Anyone ever have a bug where the jungle creeps wouldn't attack you back? I was playing lee sin and jumped to golems through the wall with Q, hitting the small one, which I aggroed. But the large golem never attacked me, even after killing the small one and turning to the other one. So I killed it and went on my way, yay gold.
No replay either.
No replay either.
In lane, yes.
Most of my harass comes from my passive, unless I can guarantee my Q can hit as well. If they are next to their caster creeps or I can catch them as they last hit I will go for a Q + auto, and being conservative enough keeps my mana relatively high.
Poking before an engage without blue buff is really hard to do though. 100 mana every 3-4 seconds, and 110 mana every 10-15 seconds drains his mana pool so quickly. Assuming you go 21/0/9 for increased blue buff duration you will have like ~1000 mana by the time the game is at a point where you are grouped up and poking to take an objective. That's not going to go very far without blue :\
I think Athene's might be okay on him, but nowhere as strong as it will be for somebody like Swain or Anivia who have giant sustained mana costs once you engage in a fight.
The Chalice passive will help at least some, but I'm more thinking that you poke down till low mana and then engage if possible, getting back the mana needed to continue the fight. I dunno, will have to try it. But if that's what you are using it for then it might just be better to go for a RoA or Archangels.
But now that I'm thinking about it, those aren't too great on Ziggs so why is Athene's any different? They all delay your damage, and I've never liked building for later on Ziggs because your putting his giant burst to waste.
meh
I leashed Red with a Heimer turret and this happened.
Hey Lovage, I heard that aside from her run animation and new purple arrows, Amethyst Ashe still has the same animations a pre-change. For only 5 dollars you can have things like they used to be! Lol
Pikaville
Pikaville returns 10 years later.
So I just made an account on the US server.
Smurfing with Cass mid was the most fun I have had playing this game.
I think I was the only one who knew about combos and other moves apart from auto attacks hahahaha.
Smurfing with Cass mid was the most fun I have had playing this game.
I think I was the only one who knew about combos and other moves apart from auto attacks hahahaha.
Big ups to my boy UTDZac for runnin' amok and getting 17th @ PT Barcelona. ****'s legit, even if he did play a deck with 10 maindeck miracles.
Lol what's wrong with miracles. It won me $2000 and an invite to the next pro tour
Also, getting to play against opponents who don't usually speak english (about 70% of them) was very interesting. Only 2 of 16 were from the states lol.Haven't touched league in a week, what's changed!?
Nothing. How's the jet lag?
I just hate the mechanic. I especially hate that a deck with 16 maindeck miracles won. But it's k, that's the format for you. When in rome...Lol what's wrong with miracles. It won me $2000 and an invite to the next pro tour
Haven't touched league in a week, what's changed!?
At least you had the balls to play green without playing wolfir silverhearts
None so far. I wasn't affected while in spain and Im not affected now. Not sure what's going on with my body... y it still work?!?!
I, uh, completely missed silverheart as a card. Did not realize so many people would be playing it and did not realize how powerful it was. Luckily for me, entreat the angels didnt careI just hate the mechanic. I especially hate that a deck with 16 maindeck miracles won. But it's k, that's the format for you. When in rome...
At least you had the balls to play green without playing wolfir silverhearts
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Ryze got buffed, that's pretty much it.Lol what's wrong with miracles. It won me $2000 and an invite to the next pro tour
Haven't touched league in a week, what's changed!?
I thought the last patch nerfed Ryze? wtf?
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Lowered his mana ratios for q and w, but gave e mana ratios and gave q a better ap ratio and better base (minus range though). Also ult lost mana for giving bonus MS.
So yea, they pretty much buffed him.