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Got a question! Sheik Q&A & FAQ

mountain_tiger

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I have a question......so i've recently decided to pick up a secondary to my Sheik/Zelda. I've narrowed it down to either Marth or DK. Which one do you guys think covers Sheiks matchups better?

Marth does very well vs. G&W, Falco, ROB, and Lucario

DK does very well vs. MK and Snake.
Personally, I'd say that you should secondary both, but if you only want to secondary one, go for Marth. DK doesn't so 'very well' against MK and Snake. IIRC, DK vs MK is 55:45 MK's favour, and DK onl;y has a very slight advantage on Snake.
 

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just learn your sheik match ups. I use a secondary sheik dittos because I'm afraid of the tilt lock... too risky.
 

HizoSturm

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uh.... any? im using sheik as a secondary cuz the main tournament i go to wont let me use my reg. main.
guess that makes me a nub in these parts of the forum. im still trying to get down the chain jacket
 

Zankoku

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I still don't understand what you're asking. Good DI with Sheik involves the direction that will make you live the longest.
 

saviorslegacy

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So yeah... I hate translating to find my way around Japanese sites. Here is one thing I did find.
http://www.videos.es/reproductor/12473125101250212521x12471125401246327178a123631242512398222383699129417124261249312479-(h1q5p9XfDcA

May I say.. "useful"? I wouldn't try to set this up but if I had the chance this would be perfect if you missed the f-tilt> USmash percent or you can't grab release> DACUS.


:EDIT:
Further testing of the DSmash suggests this combo:
(MK at 15%)
f-tilt> DSmash> MK miss's tech> Needle's> Dash Attack
It does a total of 43%.
 

Zankoku

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So yeah... I hate translating to find my way around Japanese sites. Here is one thing I did find.
http://www.videos.es/reproductor/12473125101250212521x12471125401246327178a123631242512398222383699129417124261249312479-(h1q5p9XfDcA

May I say.. "useful"? I wouldn't try to set this up but if I had the chance this would be perfect if you missed the f-tilt> USmash percent or you can't grab release> DACUS.
Old.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=193903

スマブラX シーク 横Aからの回避狩りネタ
Air-Dodge Chasing from ftilt with Sheik
横Aで体勢崩れしたところで、相手が回避するのを読んでJNAカ ス>上S
It hits even after an air-dodge after getting launched by ftilt.

スマブラX シーク ぬるり落下時のダウン連例
Example of no-tech punishments with Sheik
クッパのところ間に合ってないかも。ホントは歩けば綺麗に間に合 います。ちなみにどれもずらし考慮なし。
If they don't tech in time. A huge combo into wakeup. By the way, there is no DI in these examples.
 

-Mars-

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Seriously people......if it's old then we know about it. Most of us have been around here before Brawl even came out.
 

saviorslegacy

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Seriously people......if it's old then we know about it. Most of us have been around here before Brawl even came out.
I didn't know that was old. It was at a Japanese web site and I didn't see a date. If it was on YT and I saw the date I would have assumed it was known.
 

Icyo

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Does anyone feel it's easier to dacus when you don't push c-stick straight down?
 

SinkingHigher

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I tested that out when DACUS was discovered Owl, I don't think it helps much. You can DACUS by hitting C stick forward, so I tried pretty much every direction between the two.

Personally I just move it somewhere in that quadrant and it works fine. Do whatever is comfortable for your hand. If it's comfortable to input the controls, it's more likely your hand will adapt quicker to the movement and you'll have a better success rate.
 

Zankoku

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I didn't know that was old. It was at a Japanese web site and I didn't see a date. If it was on YT and I saw the date I would have assumed it was known.
You're kidding, right? The page you linked had the video as an embedded YouTube video. You could easily tell by the YouTube logo in the corner.

In fact if you clicked on the video itself it would've sent you to - you guessed it - the YouTube page with the video.

I understand you're eager to share things, but don't let overenthusiasm make you get ahead of yourself.
 

saviorslegacy

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Since you have trouble understanding I'll rephrase for you.
"Where I saw that was not YouTube." "It was an embed and I didn't think of clicking on the little emblem on the lower right."
Every time someone says "OMG THAT'S KNOWN" I always think of a little boy with his finger up his nose saying "I KNOW I KNOW!"

Jeez, I'm sorry I posted this one link on the forums Q&A. I didn't think people would act lik-.. oh wait.. Ankoku comes here.... never mind.
 

Zankoku

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Jeez, and I'm even trying to be nice about this. :( I didn't even mention that you were trying to pass off a Spanish site as Japanese nothing, nothing at all.

EDIT: By the way, date was in the box on the right.
Fecha: Vie 19-09-08 13:57
19 September 08
 

SinkingHigher

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Ankoku, just let it die. There will ALWAYS be an excuse and it will ALWAYS be your fault because you have trouble understanding.

Now he'll be dyslexic and have thought it said "there is no date here just post it on swf and people will like you."
 

SinkingHigher

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At this point, I'd like to announce the discovery of my new combo. It goes like this

  • 1. Fully charge your needles, theen f-tilt as many times as you feel you can safely lock your opponent in.



    2. Footstool.



    3. SUMMON A ****ING BUS.


I call it "El autobús combo"

(That's Spanish for bus.)




It's confirmed on MK.
 

noradseven

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Holy **** good find, super pro will this make sheik go up to S tier???

Too bad another fighting game already has a "**** train" combo
 

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****... footstool does link to bus! Kills even snake at percents around 60 from the center of the stage. good find!
 
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