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Oh, don’t get me wrong, we’re in complete agreement.
Sorry, I should have worded it to be clear that I meant third party inclusions, the things that actually cost Nintendo to put into the game. Everything that Nintendo can get for free doesn't have to mean a damn thing, though it's fair to say that typically they do benefit off of these inclusions via advertisement, but at the end of the day, characters like Piranha Plant are roster padding. The more you're able to squeeze in, the better, as you're able to +1 your character count and use it as a selling point. No use in bringing the likes of Pichu and Young Link back, but you wouldn't be able to say "Everyone is Here!" without them.
LOL Fair enough. I really do find it disgusting sometimes, the power of a brand name. To be honest, I find that to be the single most concerning thing about the modern gaming industry. When a franchise makes bank simply because it has the Mario logo, or the Legend of Zelda logo, or the Pokemon logo slapped on it, devs tend to get painfully lax about quality (glares at Gamefreak). I'm dead serious when I say that Nintendo could literally scoop a dog turd into a game case, slap "Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 3 Ultimate Deluxe" on the front of it, and a sizeable amount of people would buy it without any regard to the warnings online that it was actually not a game, but literal crap. lol
No, definitely. I'm not remotely as angry as I was on November 1, 2018 and have come to accept Piranha Plant as a... as having a moveset, but it's the biggest slap to the nuts a fan of any established character that Nintendo owns could possibly receive. I just cope by telling myself that Sakurai wanted a character who can press B to escape almost any situation and just couldn't formulate that kind of moveset for any character who can't vomit a morning star on command.
Lol y'know, you putting it like that just makes me glad we didn't get Spike from Mario.
I thought about him as I typed it and just shrugged and said to myself Sakurai probably couldn't have thought of any other moves aside from vomiting a morning star on command. As trashy as he is, Piranha Plant has at least demonstrated a wide variety of abilities throughout Mario's 35 years.
Joker was revealed roughly a month after Plant and Corrin and Bayo were revealed roughly a month after Cloud. Definitely not impossible.
and even if November proves to have nothing, there is still the matter of the Mario 35th anniversary Challenge Cup, where they could hold the tournament early enough on for a potential reveal/release to occur a week at most later in December
Geno is a really cool concept in general; a possessed doll armed with magic and heavy weaponry?! Considering Sakurai's known affinity for action figures and collecting them, I think he may decide to lean in on that angle with Geno's moveset and animations; and I think something like that would still be appealing to people who aren't familiar with the character.
To add to this, within the past two years, both November Directs have been Smash-themed.
More than likely. Going all the way back to 2012, the international presentations have always been in the first half of the month and typically during the first full week. With AoC being the 20th, the week of the 16th is even more unlikely so, yeah, next week or the week after are the most likely given past precedent.So if we do get something in November, it will either be in the first or second week of November correct?
I agree. We'll see what happens in the first two weeks of November; but right now, assuming Geno is the next character and not later in the pass, I think we'll see them be revealed and quite possibly released in December.
I'll like to add onto this by pointing out every single game featured in Mario's 35th has gotten new content, but Smash has oddly gotten nothing, not even a spirit event for it.
I mean, Plant was probably intended for base game and with Cloud also came an announcement of a dedicated presentation which they obviously didn't do with Steve. Idk I want a reveal as much as the next guy but it does like December at the earliest tbh
I wouldn't waste your time watching it if you're only watching it for a Smash reveal, there wont be a reveal this year.
Wish I didn't make that mistake last year...
Me too. Couple hours of my life I'll never get back.
I'd be cool with that too since my 33rd birthday is on December 5th. December is just a super small window because most of the industry has adopted a "bar's closed" mentality for big news after the VGAs, basically making December the first week or bust.
Hey, check it out! We have something in common! We have our birthdays in December! And we are both close in age!
Yeah VGAs is pretty much the only outlet left and if one doesn't there then it's January. I thought VGAs was pretty likely if the next character is pretty close to completion or a trailer or something.
I'm watching the VGAs this year anyway (yes, even after the 2019 VGAs weren't so good), so I certainly wouldn't complain about a Smash reveal happening there, even if it's someone who wouldn't be considered "big" enough for that event.
Would be funny to know how many people will stay up for Smash actually. If Byleth was meant for December, maybe they were meant for VGAs.
I'll try to tune in if I can fit it into my schedule. Hoping if Smash isn't there, there will at least be a new BoTW2 trailer.
Considering how Byleth's trailer was made (it literally starts off like a cutscene from Three Houses, much like Joker's trailer looking like something for Persona 5), I would not be surprised at all if Byleth was intended to be a VGA reveal and was just delayed into January.
If Geno is at The Game Awards this year I imagine the trailer will start out looking like a SMRPG remake announcement.
And hopefully it'll be like Isabelle's trailer where it isn't 100% a fake out and we still get a new game out of it.
