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Amen to that. I totally agree. Byleth's playstyle just seems bland to me while Min Min plays like a fun fusion of Dhalsim and Pokemon Trainer with the arm switching. I still think it's funny how fast Byleth got power creeped by her. She basically does his entire job better than him, and she came immediately after.
If you know how to play as Byleth, you can demolish her pretty easily (raises hand as someone that has him as one of his mains) She has no air game what so ever compared to Byleth which is easily to punish
It just means they'll underestimate you. I've done good with 'trash' tier characters because they simply never learned how to play against them because they were 'bad'.
This. I will main Wolf, Ridley, Banjo and Cloud to the end of days and I won't care haha.
To be fair, I think you haven't played many skilled Min Min's because her air game is actually pretty good. Her Nair has more range (and WAY more power with Megawatt), her Up air has great reach and frame data, and if you know how to use her Fair/Bair arms in the air she can completely wall off any character that lacks good mobility or air speed...including Byleth. They have a pretty much identical recovery so that's a wash, but the stretchy grab and gimp/edgeguarding abilities with dragon beam alone give her a massive advantage. I would even say that her dragon beam is faster and more reliable than Byleth's arrows too, especially since you can initiate it while falling to jump the projectile of other characters. Then again, I do realize that the skill of their players is a big factor and it's hard to say where Min Min would fit in a tier list at such an early stage. It just seems at face value that she stole Byleth's "Distance Demon" title pretty handily.
I´m on Elite Smash, and the only characters I really have a problem with Byleth is the likes of Sonic, Pikachu, or Inkling. So yes, I have met good Min Mins. And while she has a longer range, Byleth deals way more damage than her in general, with a recovery that is 10 times better. Lord know how many people I´ve spiked out with the hammer while they have been at 0% (yes the hammer can spike that early if you are in the air)
I'm on Elite Smash too, and if you don't have Greninja on your list of Bad Byleth matchups, then you're either MKLeo moonlighting on Smashboards or haven't seen as many legit good players than you think. Granted, good Greninja's are strangely rare, but let me tell you, he eats Byleth alive. He can easily get in and out of Byleth's attack range, outcamp with shuriken and go super deep for edgeguards against that limited tether recovery.
Define master. Because it took me a day or two on training mode to know the basics to get the grasp of him and I got progressively better to the point that I argue if I should change the icon with to him instead of Zelda. The characters I play with are sort of "zooners" (Piranha Plant, Zelda, Byleth) so he were rather easy to learn for me. I only meet one good Greninja online tbh, and I won 2/3, although, in that guy's defense, he accidentally did a miss input. Had he not, it would have been 2/3 for him.
Ahhh fellow Banjo and Cloud main! Tiers be ****ed. Also I did not forget....HAPPY BIRTHDAY NAZYRUS!
I understand. I'm not saying that Byleth is bad in any way. I'm just saying that he was best known for his length advantage over the rest of cast and that I felt that Min Min kind of took that from him. That's not to say that he doesn't have his own strengths, and in his defense, I do admit that he's easier to play than Min Min. Much more straight forward. I guess she's just more polarizing as far as playstyle is concerned.
While I´m glad that we finally have someone that covers the weapon triangle, I still think it would have been more interesting if Byleth were a Pokemon trainer styled character.
Funny thing about that is, Byleth doesn't even really have a length advantage. Areadbhar as the side special has a lot of reach because Byleth physically moves forward when using it, but when it's used as an fsmash or an aerial, it gets outreached by Belmonts and probably Shulk and Corrin as well. Byleth has very little that makes him stand out as a character, aside from using a bow as a melee weapon. People like to say "he uses four different weapons so that's a unique gimmick", but... not really? It's purely visual,
Yeah, I think Byleth would have been WAY funner and more interesting if you could actually change weapons and have a full moveset for each. Granted, that would be a **** ton of work of the dev team, but it would have been awesome to have a non-PT character with 3 or 4 different movesets inside him.
Their moveset is fun and I like the VAs energy in attacks.
Completely agreed, and I hope we do get a character like this some day. This is one of the gimmicks I'm hoping for for Dragonborn.
Very unlikely. Even with those allegations, they still have a product to sell regardless of competitive enthusiasts
I suppose you can never say never, but I truly doubt that would be the reason. The competitive Smash community is a small fraction of the overall larger fanbase at large. We need to remember that due to how many franchises Smash includes, the amount of fans it pulls in is multiplied exponentially. As such, when some people say the DLC should be canceled or "Smash is dead" due to the recent allegations... well, that's pretty dumb. Nintendo has taken care to distance itself from the competitive Smash community (as many already know). If Nintendo were to delay news, it would likely be for a bigger reason and if the allegations factored into anything at all, it would likely be a small amount.
As this is a small subset of one fanbase (one that they don't seem to overly support anyway) of one country, I don't think that'd change anything. Now, a delay from COVID or something that is in everyone's life could be possible, but I don't think the events of the past weeks would have any change in any sort of announcements or development schedule whatsoever.
Most likely no to a delay.
Lemme put it this way: I've had little hope for more Smash info until at least September for a while now, and this controversy hasn't changed that. Maybe we'll get something this week, but I'm not honding my breath.
I just want to say that I've hit people with Byleth's Amyr (down B) way more often than my opponents would probably like to admit, which breaks shields stupidly easy and KOs very easily too. Byleth has very good range, yes, but also some devastating attacks with Amyr.
As a Fire Emblem Three houses fan, it sucks that Byleth doesn't mesh with me that much. My mains consist of characters who are usually a bit more nimble (such as
, , and ) and characters I usually have a connection to. Even though releasing Byleth as Fighter #5 was, in my opinion, really bad timing and kind of tone-deaf, I was at least excited Three Houses got some representation. Unfortunately I really can't get a hang of Byleth's slow movement in general. The character just feels really sluggish to me. I do enjoy the various weapons used though, however, so I hope Byleth receives some good buffs soon to increase the character's viability.as a secondary and he's definitely not considered "top tier." It just sucks when you don't vibe with the moveset of a character you've wanted for ages. Again, people can just force it and that's fine (some movesets require learning curves), but it is saddening to see some fans get discouraged because the character's moveset isn't their jam.If Master Chief is at the end of the Pass, than that will definitely be considered a E3 level reveal. I have never played Halo, but I acknowledge how big the franchise is and how big it would be for the Xbox mascot to get into Smash. I would be hyped as hell for Chief.
